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Ok folks...need a little advice. I need a decent first aid kit for hunting, backpacking, and just being outdoors in remote country. A lot of options out there...but it seems many have a bunch of stuff you don't need like CPR masks etc. Any solid choices that are not crazy expensive? It will be going in a bigger bag...

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I did, and you can assemble your own.


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Walmart sells quite a few outdoor-themed FAK's online:

https://www.walmart.com/search/?query=outdoor%20first%20aid%20kit


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I bought blood clotting powder from Walgreens, have duct tape, gauze, band aids, antibiotic, should have staples,.


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The quikclot gauze pads are a must .

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Quikclot gauze pads...yes 100% Im trying to think of the things that kill people. Ill be adding an epee pen and some benadryl for sure...it seems most of the commercial ones are full of junk to prop the item count up

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You will want to add a tourniquet also. There are a couple of good ones out there. The Sof T is what I carry with me. Check out Tac Med Solutions, they sell the Sof T and other stuff like quick clot. Probably find a lot of stuff cheaper elsewhere, but a chance to decide what you wanna pack. Tourniquet, quick clot and pressure bandage would be a good start along with medical tape.


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A bandana carried at all time should work as a compress, or a tourniquet.


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Originally Posted by wabigoon
A bandana carried at all time should work as a compress, or a tourniquet.


A tourniquet is cheap and works.

Use your bandana as a bandage....not a dressing.


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It’s one thing to have the gear and it’s another thing to know how to use it. Many great videos out there. Be sure to check them out.

The amount and type of gear you will need will depend on how long do you think it will take to reach a medical facility. Answer that question and go from there.


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Definitely make your own. Sportsmans guide has a nice orange MTM dry box case you can make one out of.

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Originally Posted by gsganzer
Definitely make your own. Sportsmans guide has a nice orange MTM dry box case you can make one out of.

The OTC First Aid Kits are generally just a handful of bandaids. If you want an effective First Kit, then do what gsganzer recommends. Make your own.

One day I sat down and tried to remember the first aid events that I have actually encountered while backpacking for 6 decades. This is a list of items needed to deal with those events.

MSXL spread sheets generally don't copy too well. But I'll give it a try.

PERSONAL FIRST AID KIT CONTENTS
QUANTITY UNIT DESCRIPTION APPLICATION
6 ea Bandaids 5/8" x 3" fabric Minor Cuts
6 ea Bandaids 1" x 3" fabric Minor Cuts
6 ea Bandaid 1 3/4" x 4" fabric Abrasions and Cuts
1 pad Moleskin 3" x 4" Blisters
4 ea Moleskin Donuts Blisters
1 sm tube Neosporin Ointment Triple Actibacterial Ointment
1 roll Gauze, sterile Wound Treatment
2 ea Gauze Pad Wound Treatment
2 paks Quick Clot Stop Bleeding
1 ea Battle Dressing Major Wound
2 ea 2nd Skin, moist burn pads Burn Treatment
1 sm tube Aquaphor Ointment Burn Treatment
1 roll Ace Bandage Sprains
1 roll Vet Wrap Sprains
1 ea Needle Splinters & Ticks
1 ea Tweezers Splinters & Ticks
1 tube Chap Stick Chapped Lips
2 pills Antacid Tablets, chewable Indigestion

You can get all this stuff at Walgreens except the battle dressing and maybe the Quick Clot. That you will have to get from Amazon.

I don't use a hard box. Too heavy. I use a small red stuff sack.















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Ask a paramedic?


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Depends on how far you expect to be from civilization, and how big an owie you want to treat.

My range kit is tiny. It fits in a $.99 red hinged bath soap case: A couple of adhesive bandages, gauze pad, magnifier, tweezers, antibiotic ointment, cheap rubber tournequet, nitrile gloves, two naproxen sodium, and one papaya tablet. In case of a venomous sting or bite, the papaya tablet is crushed, wet, and placed on the wound.

Making your own kit is like reloading your own ammo: Less expensive, and customized to your needs.


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Im putting one together for a friend.

Of course it needs to be set up for your specific needs,
Building your own will be better than a complete kit, by either cheaper, better quality stuff or less bulky.

Stuff for burns - Burnshield dressings and gel
Forceps
tweezers
Steristrips + Dermabond or Mastisol liquid for cuts
Compression bandage (Israeli Bandage)
CAT tourniquet - though elastic tubing or anything tight can serve in a pinch
Trauma shears
Gauze
saline bullets

According to needs -
Paracord
Ibuprofen, Acetaminophen, allergy stuff, diarrhea stuff
Bandaids
Sunblock
vaseline for blisters/lips/dry skin

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Originally Posted by denton
Depends on how far you expect to be from civilization, and how big an owie you want to treat

Making your own kit is like reloading your own ammo: Less expensive, and customized to your needs.


Beat me to it.
We all want to imagine ourselves prepared for everything. But a lot of the stuff paramedics carry on their bags requires training.
Being cogniscent of needs/likelihood/remoteness will show it requires different approaches

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Originally Posted by denton
Depends on how far you expect to be from civilization, and how big an owie you want to treat.

My range kit is tiny. It fits in a $.99 red hinged bath soap case: A couple of adhesive bandages, gauze pad, magnifier, tweezers, antibiotic ointment, cheap rubber tournequet, nitrile gloves, two naproxen sodium, and one papaya tablet. In case of a venomous sting or bite, the papaya tablet is crushed, wet, and placed on the wound.

Making your own kit is like reloading your own ammo: Less expensive, and customized to your needs.



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KC gives a pretty good list. I would add locking hemostats. Squirting arteries can be slippery little bastards. But once clamped, they can be controlled.

I am sure that most here are First Aid trained, and know about tourniquets and the dangers thereof.

For the one or two who might not.

1a: Use of a tourniquet will "sacrifice the limb to save the life". Most times, a pressure bandage coupled with pressure upon the "pulse point" will minimize bleeding without cost of the limb. Clot powder or clotting bandages will be of assistance.

1b: Assume all tissue below the tourniquet will have to be cut off.

2: Once applied, NEVER, Never loosen a tourniquet before arrival at the ER. Let ER Dr do it.

3: tag the tourniquet with date and time of application.

Tourniquets are an absolute last course attempt used after all else fails in an attempt to save a life. Do not make the decision to use one lightly.


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Originally Posted by denton
Depends on how far you expect to be from civilization, and how big an owie you want to treat.

This is absolutely right. The first list I gave is what's in my backpack first aid kit. If you intend to hunt from a base camp then you will want more. If you are going on an Alaska fly-in hunt then your list should look something like this.

EXPEDITION GROUP FIRST AID KIT CONTENTS
QUANTITY UNIT DESCRIPTION APPLICATION
2 packs Azythromycin (Z-pack) - RX Bronchitis - Respiratory Infection
2 box Zyrtec - D Antihistimine & Decongestant
30 pills Keflex (cephalexin) - RX wide spectrum Antibiotic (internal)
90 pills Prednisone (hydrcortisone pills) - RX Internal Ingflamation, Muscle Aches
90 pills Ibuprofin Pain Relief - reduce Inflamation
90 pills Aspirin General Analgesic
90 pills Acetomenophin PM Sleep Aid
1 2 oz tube Cortizone-10 Ointment Burn & Rash treatment
1 box Imodium A-D Diarhea
1 box Ex Lax Constipation
3 packs Quick Clot or Celox Powder Stop Bleeding
2 lg tube Neosporin ointment Triple Antibacterial Ointment
16 packs Alcohol Swabs Sterile Cleanup
1 botl Soap, biodegradable General Cleanup
1 botl Foot Powder Treat Athletes Foot
1 botl Visine Irrigate Eyes
1 botl Claritan-D, Antihistimine Pills Treat Allergies
2 lg tube Aquaphor Rash & Burn Treatment

2 rolls Ace Bandage 3" Sprains & wound treatment
2 rolls Ace Bandage 2" Sprains & wound treatment
1 pack NAR Hyfin Twin Pack - Chest Seal Seal Sucking Chest Wound
2 each Battle Dressing, sterile Wound treatment
2 roll Gauze, sterile Wrap Wound
24 each Sterile Gauze Pads, 3" x 3" Pack Wound
2 roll Medical Tape 1" Wound treatment
36 each Fabric Bandaids 3/4" x 2 1/2" Minor Cuts
20 each Fabric Bandaids 1 1/2" x 3" Minor Cuts & Abrasions
1 pack Mole Skin Blisters
1 pack Moleskin donuts Blisters
2 roll VetWrap - medical cling wrap Wound treatment
1 box Nexcare Tegaderm bandages Burn treatment
4 packs WaterGel 4" x 12" Burn treatment
4 ea 2nd Skin, moist burn pads Burn Treatment
4 each Tongue Depressors - wooden Finger Splint
1 botl Liquid Bandage Treat Minor Cuts & Dry Skin Cracks

1 each Tourniquet Control Bleeding
1 each Suction Pump (Sawyer Extractor) Tick removal, Snake Venom removal
1 each Thermometer (digital) new batteries Measure Body Temperature
1 each Thermometer, mercury In case digital fails
1 each SAM Splint Splint broken bone
1 each C - Splint Splint broken bone
1 pair Scissors - offset safety type
2 each Hemostat Medical Clamp, small
2 each Hemostat Medical Clamp, medium
8 each Safety Pin
2 each Needle Tick & Sliver removal
2 each Tweezers Tick & Sliver removal
4 pair Gloves, sterile (8 gloves) General Cleanliness
1 set First Aid Quick Reference Cards Quick Reference - what to do
1 each Container Large enough to hold contents

Someone above has already mentioned that all this stuff is no good if you don't know how to use it.








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Originally Posted by MidBore338
Ok folks...need a little advice. I need a decent first aid kit for hunting, backpacking, and just being outdoors in remote country. A lot of options out there...but it seems many have a bunch of stuff you don't need like CPR masks etc. Any solid choices that are not crazy expensive? It will be going in a bigger bag...

I know what you mean.
Sometime this spring i plan to build a new kit.

The thing that I might need may be different from your needs. I will think about the activities that will be common. Then I will make a list.
Lastly, I'll buy exactly what I want and only the best quality. That will put me further ahead for practical potential needs as well as save a lot of money. The quality will be there too. The only drawback is the time to put it all together. I see it as the difference between fast food and a good home cooked meal after going to the farmer's market.

The case for it is whatever you have already. If you want a blaze orange, there's always sales on a cheap vest or the fabric store.

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