Home Forums Hunting & Shooting AR and Tactical Rifles I shot a group today

Three actually. On paper. 10 rounds at a time. So now I can say I’ve done it.

Laying in the dirt, bipod front, squeeze bag rear, factory Geissele 14.5”, American Eagle 75grain TMJ.

For that ammo, & conditions, I'd say that's decent & adequate for the type of use that gun might see; what kind of sight?

MM

That’s got the Trijicon Ascent. I’m going to try it on one more rifle before I decide where it’ll stay.

For fighting guns I go off the principle of 2”, 4”, and 8” circles. Those represent a head shot, obscured torso, and full torso. Then I just see how far, with a particular load and optic, I can reliably hit each size circle.

For this gun I’d feel comfortable with a 100 yard head shot, 250ish obscured torso, and probably 350ish with a full torso (400 of it were a low risk shot). And all of those are a long, long, way to be shooting at people with ball ammo.

Yep, my red dot mounted guns do about the same at 100, past 200 though, calls for a scope or something other than a red dot even on full torso's for me.

The IMI 55 gr FMJ's are about the best factory FMJ's I've seen for accuracy & those are full 5.56 pressure.

MM

Well I started a group...

Was out Saturday confirming zero on my 6.5 with an added brake. The bigger holes where I’m pointing are surrounded by 3 shots from my Colt pencil barrel at 200 yards. I had put a new H2 Aimpoint on and was confirming zero at 200 from the 50 yard zero.



It was windy, really windy as evidenced by the 6.5 hole that dropped off the pie plate. It was fired as the target stand was being blown over. So I was tickled with my 3 shot group at 200 with a red dot. Ammo was my 77 gr SMK reload. Adjusted the 6.5 and didn’t see a need to waste more ammo.

I can't post pictures here anymore for whatever reason. But fired a 5 shot group the other day at 200 with Carolyns AR that was 1.5 inches appx with 3X dot scope.

We shot so much with irons and I could generally keep most all my 32 to 36 rounds on a torso target at 600- rapid fire from a sling.

I'm still convinced much of this needing optics is non practice, non faith kind of thing.

That said when I get optics I generally x on the top end like more just in case... Though have shot quite a bit with Carolyns creed moor to just over 1000 now with 9X top end, Gets rough on coyotes that far with 9x. Kinda almost covers em all up

The thing about the red dot at distance is it’s slower than a magnified optic for me. And not as precise unless I have a target that I can center the dot on. Even with the target I posted, I was constantly trying to verify where the orange dot was rather than just centering the plate and shooting. My 1-4’s I just place the dot where I want it and shoot. But group sizes ain’t no better really, usually about 1.5-2 moa.

My Creedmoor now wears a 10x super chicken cause at 1000, the 3-9 super chicken w/o adjustable parallax opened up my shooting. Swapped to the 10x and things got easier. Not really the magnification just more precise aiming. My buddy was right next to me with a 6X super chicken on his Creedmoor shooting better than me.