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Smaller-size bino query #16000374 04/16/21
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,885 Frisco TX R RHutch OP Campfire Regular
OP RHutch Campfire Regular R Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,885 Frisco TX	I’m looking for a set of small binoculars in the 8x32 size range. Never warmed up to compacts although it’s been a minute since I’ve looked at any. Had a set of Zeiss I sold and miss. These will be primarily used for turkey hunting in big country in the spring. Any quality suggestions in the $400 to $800 range?

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Re: Smaller-size bino query RHutch #16000381 04/16/21
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338rcm Campfire Outfitter 3 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 13,076 colorado	Meopta Meostar

Re: Smaller-size bino query RHutch #16000397 04/16/21
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 6,374 N.E. Mn./ Mt H handwerk Campfire Tracker
handwerk Campfire Tracker H Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 6,374 N.E. Mn./ Mt	I sure like my old Trinovid 8x32's...

Re: Smaller-size bino query RHutch #16000443 04/16/21
Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 9,232 Tejas JohnnyLoco Campfire Outfitter
JohnnyLoco Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 9,232 Tejas	If you ever find a pair of 6x Leupold Yosemite, grab them

Re: Smaller-size bino query RHutch #16000522 04/16/21
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yobuck Campfire Regular Y Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 816 east central fl. /n/c pa.	How about a minty set of Bushnell custom compacts?

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Re: Smaller-size bino query RHutch #16000585 04/16/21
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hookeye Campfire Ranger H Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 17,816 Armpit of midwest	Kids going on Alaska cruise. Looking at maybe the Steiner Predator 8X You know, loan em those and then deer/ turkey hunt w after. 😉 Last edited by hookeye; 04/16/21.

Re: Smaller-size bino query RHutch #16000654 04/16/21
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 29,786 Land of milk and honey...for s... J JSTUART Campfire Ranger
JSTUART Campfire Ranger J Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 29,786 Land of milk and honey...for s...	I was going to suggest Zeiss Victory FL 8x32, then I had a look at what they are asking on ebay...screw that! Mine are going to do me for a lifetime. Meopta or Doctor. Last edited by JSTUART; 04/16/21. These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.

Re: Smaller-size bino query RHutch #16000713 04/16/21
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 24,621 Midwest SKane Campfire Ranger
SKane Campfire Ranger Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 24,621 Midwest	In the high end of your price range, I'd be calling Doug RE a demo Kowa Genesis 8x33mm Prominar XD. And on the low end, Kowa BD II 8x32mm. WWP53D

Re: Smaller-size bino query RHutch #16000773 04/16/21
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Maverick_31 Campfire Greenhorn M Joined: Jul 2014 Posts: 97 The Lower Forty	I don't think you will find anything as good as the old Zeiss for the money. I've had my pair for about 40 years now, and never found any others I like as well. There is a pair on ebay in that range. I have included a link. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rare-West-Germany-N-MINT-Zeiss-Dialyt-8x30B-Binoculars-w-Case/224421103869?hash=item34408a48fd:g:TZAAAOSws3Bgc2Ts Good Luck

Re: Smaller-size bino query RHutch #16000788 04/16/21
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wagner Campfire Regular W Joined: Oct 2016 Posts: 688 SW Missouri	Again...call Doug 8x33 Kowa Genesis Are you part of the problem or part of the solution?

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Re: Smaller-size bino query wagner #16000852 04/16/21
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eaglemountainman Campfire Regular E Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 2,219 Fl, Catskills and Down East Me...	Another vote for the Kowa Gennys. Might be a little stretch on your budget, but you'll forget about that by next year. My heart's in the mountains, my heart is not here. My heart's in the mountains, chasing the deer.

Re: Smaller-size bino query RHutch #16000879 04/16/21
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High_Noon Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 8,793 TX	Minox BL 8x32 BR. Last edited by High_Noon; 04/16/21. l told my pap and mam I was going to be a mountain man; acted like they was gut-shot. Make your life go here. Here's where the peoples is. Mother Gue, I says, the Rocky Mountains is the marrow of the world, and by God, I was right. - Del Gue

Re: Smaller-size bino query yobuck #16000950 04/16/21
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Limapapa Campfire Member Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 482 Colorado	Originally Posted by yobuck How about a minty set of Bushnell custom compacts? This +++. There are three pair right now on e-Bay in the $150 range. You will not regret buying them. Dont get the cheaper Ensigns, that look the same but are junk.

Re: Smaller-size bino query 338rcm #16000956 04/16/21
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GregW Campfire Ranger G Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 15,646 Coues Country	Originally Posted by 338rcm Meopta Meostar Yes... - Greg Success is found at the intersection of planning, hard work, and stubbornness.

Re: Smaller-size bino query JSTUART #16000981 04/16/21
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OP RHutch Campfire Regular R Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,885 Frisco TX	Originally Posted by JSTUART I was going to suggest Zeiss Victory FL 8x32, then I had a look at what they are asking on ebay...screw that! Mine are going to do me for a lifetime. Meopta or Doctor. Those are the Zeiss I had. They were sweet.

Re: Smaller-size bino query SKane #16000994 04/16/21
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OP RHutch Campfire Regular R Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,885 Frisco TX	Originally Posted by SKane And on the low end, Kowa BD II 8x32mm. I’ve got a pair of these in 8x42. They are meh....and Chinese. They are now a loaner pair. Been looking at the genesis out of curiosity.

Re: Smaller-size bino query RHutch #16001546 04/17/21
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KH1473 Campfire Regular K Joined: Jun 2014 Posts: 1,550 Mid TN	Kowa Genesis 8x33 are fantastic

Re: Smaller-size bino query RHutch #16001619 04/17/21
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338rcm Campfire Outfitter 3 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 13,076 colorado	https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cabelas-In...nt-Cond/133725343728?hash=item1f22a6cff0 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Meopta-Meo...nstinct/303962888279?hash=item46c5999857

Re: Smaller-size bino query KH1473 #16001673 04/17/21
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OP RHutch Campfire Regular R Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,885 Frisco TX	Originally Posted by KH1473 Kowa Genesis 8x33 are fantastic Are they Japanese?

Re: Smaller-size bino query RHutch #16001718 04/17/21
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65BR Campfire Ranger Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 16,512 Louisiana	I'd suspect my Yosemite and Katmai 6x would do well for that application.......perhaps an 8x has an advantage if you are spotting at far distances. FWIW, I ran some Pentax 8x32 and they did a good job. Good hunting.

Re: Smaller-size bino query Limapapa #16001799 04/17/21
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alpinecrick Campfire Ranger A Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 26,196 West Slope of Colorado	Originally Posted by Limapapa Originally Posted by yobuck How about a minty set of Bushnell custom compacts? This +++. There are three pair right now on e-Bay in the $150 range. You will not regret buying them. Dont get the cheaper Ensigns, that look the same but are junk. Yep.......... Casey Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively... Having said that, MAGA.

Re: Smaller-size bino query RHutch #16001808 04/17/21
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 28,229 W. Texas J JGRaider Campfire Ranger
JGRaider Campfire Ranger J Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 28,229 W. Texas	Big Meopta fan here. Not even GregW and Jud can tear them up. Last edited by JGRaider; 04/17/21. It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.

Re: Smaller-size bino query JGRaider #16001917 04/17/21
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338rcm Campfire Outfitter 3 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 13,076 colorado	Originally Posted by JGRaider Big Meopta fan here. Not even GregW and Jud can tear them up. Me Too JG. Meopta is making some great products and have excellent customer service!

Re: Smaller-size bino query RHutch #16002196 04/17/21
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OP RHutch Campfire Regular R Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,885 Frisco TX	I forget about Meopta. May be time to try a pair. Thanks for all the suggestions.

Re: Smaller-size bino query RHutch #16002248 04/17/21
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 13,360 Old Bethpage NY gr8fuldoug Campfire Outfitter
gr8fuldoug Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 13,360 Old Bethpage NY	As a long standing supporting vendor here on the forum it would be our pleasure to discuss this with you and help figure out which would suit your intended use the best. If you've got a few minutes give us a call, 516-217-1000 Thanks Doug @ Camera Land [email protected] http://www.cameralandny.com 516-217-1000 Thanks for the support.

Re: Smaller-size bino query RHutch #16002310 04/17/21
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 7,986 Oregon Sheister Campfire Outfitter
Sheister Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 7,986 Oregon	GIve Doug a call and hash it out with him. He knows his glass and has some of the best prices and customer service around... and he'll give you and honest straight forward answer to your questions. My advice would be to get the best glass in your budget, even if you have to stretch your budget a little bit.... The Meoptas sound like a great value for the money. Never heard a bad word about them .... Never underestimate your ability to overestimate your ability.

Re: Smaller-size bino query RHutch #16002509 04/17/21
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 38,816 South of Minnesota 5sdad Campfire 'Bwana
5sdad Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 38,816 South of Minnesota	The answer to any optics question is always to buy the most expensive that is out there. Not a real member - just an ordinary guy who appreciates being able to hang around and say something once in awhile. Happily Trapped In the Past (Thanks, Joe) Not only a less than minimally educated person, but stupid and out of touch as well.

Re: Smaller-size bino query RHutch #16002588 04/17/21
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eaglemountainman Campfire Regular E Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 2,219 Fl, Catskills and Down East Me...	Originally Posted by RHutch I’m looking for a set of small binoculars in the 8x32 size range. Never warmed up to compacts although it’s been a minute since I’ve looked at any. Had a set of Zeiss I sold and miss. These will be primarily used for turkey hunting in big country in the spring. Any quality suggestions in the $400 to $800 range? I just got off the phone with Doug (CameraLand). After reading through this thread, I decided I needed a pair of 8X33 Gennys to go with my 10.5X44s. I ordered new unopened stock, but he has an open box of 8X33s there right now for $809. My heart's in the mountains, my heart is not here. My heart's in the mountains, chasing the deer.

Re: Smaller-size bino query RHutch #16002653 04/17/21
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OP RHutch Campfire Regular R Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,885 Frisco TX	I’m very familiar with Doug. He’s taken $1000’s of my dollars. Once I decide what I need, he will be on the short list.

Re: Smaller-size bino query JGRaider #16004122 04/17/21
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Judman Campfire Ranger J Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 21,156 N.. Newaukum, Washington	Originally Posted by JGRaider Big Meopta fan here. Not even GregW and Jud can tear them up. Uncle Johnny, still sweet on those little 8x32’s... dandy little glasses, highly recommend 👍 Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies. Ain’t easy havin pals.

Re: Smaller-size bino query RHutch #16006657 04/18/21
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Leftybolt Campfire Regular L Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,334 South	I’m also a big fan of the 8x32 Meopta Meostar. Just an all-around fantastic optic! Wide field of view, fantastic glass, and built like a tank. Leftybolt

Re: Smaller-size bino query RHutch #16018032 04/22/21
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centershot Campfire Outfitter Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 10,686 Southern Idaho	This guy has been trying to sell these for a couple months. I have a set, they are excellent. I also have SLC 10x42's, the 8x30's get used 90% of the time for me. I think you could get them for $800 or close. https://www.archerytalk.com/threads/swarovski-cl-companion-8x30.5995881/#post-1113627361 Last edited by centershot; 04/22/21. A true sportsman counts his achievements in proportion to the effort involved and fairness of the sport. - S. Pope

Re: Smaller-size bino query KH1473 #16018232 04/22/21
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StrayDog Campfire Tracker S Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 7,124 Texas	Originally Posted by KH1473 Kowa Genesis 8x33 are fantastic Doug, Seems to be a lot of votes for Genesis, is their resolution as good as Zeiss Conquest 8x32 HD? Thanks in advance

Re: Smaller-size bino query RHutch #16018274 04/22/21
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M1Rifle Campfire Member M Joined: Sep 2017 Posts: 175	Better...The conquest is over priced imho

Re: Smaller-size bino query RHutch #16018397 04/22/21
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 13,360 Old Bethpage NY gr8fuldoug Campfire Outfitter
gr8fuldoug Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 13,360 Old Bethpage NY	Not to say anything bad about the Conquest HD, however, the Genesis is clearly a superior optic Doug @ Camera Land [email protected] http://www.cameralandny.com 516-217-1000 Thanks for the support.

Re: Smaller-size bino query gr8fuldoug #16018731 04/22/21
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338rcm Campfire Outfitter 3 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 13,076 colorado	Originally Posted by gr8fuldoug Not to say anything bad about the Conquest HD, however, the Genesis is clearly a superior optic Doug How does the Kowa stack up against the Meostar?

Re: Smaller-size bino query RHutch #16018948 04/22/21
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OP RHutch Campfire Regular R Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,885 Frisco TX	Keeping an eye on this thread. Looks like the Kowa deserves a look...although I have had about $10K in unexpected expenses in the last two weeks, this purchase is now on the back burner.

Re: Smaller-size bino query 338rcm #16018951 04/22/21
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 13,360 Old Bethpage NY gr8fuldoug Campfire Outfitter
gr8fuldoug Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 13,360 Old Bethpage NY	Originally Posted by 338rcm Originally Posted by gr8fuldoug Not to say anything bad about the Conquest HD, however, the Genesis is clearly a superior optic Doug How does the Kowa stack up against the Meostar? If Swarovski ever made an 8x33 SLC it would be the Kowa Genesis 8x33 You'll be thrilled with the Kowa Doug @ Camera Land [email protected] http://www.cameralandny.com 516-217-1000 Thanks for the support.

Re: Smaller-size bino query RHutch #16023647 04/23/21
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WAM Campfire Tracker W Joined: May 2017 Posts: 4,892 Sweet Home	So how does the Kowa Genesis compare to a Leica Trinovid 8x42 HD? Life Member NRA, RMEF, American Legion, MAGA. Not necessarily in that order.

Re: Smaller-size bino query RHutch #16024228 04/24/21
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pacecars Campfire Tracker P Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 6,988 Tallahassee, FL USA	I bought a Kowa Genesis 8x32 from Doug last year and they are fantastic Guns don't kill people, it's mostly the bullets

Re: Smaller-size bino query gr8fuldoug #16024323 04/24/21
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338rcm Campfire Outfitter 3 Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 13,076 colorado	Originally Posted by gr8fuldoug Originally Posted by 338rcm Originally Posted by gr8fuldoug Not to say anything bad about the Conquest HD, however, the Genesis is clearly a superior optic Doug How does the Kowa stack up against the Meostar? If Swarovski ever made an 8x33 SLC it would be the Kowa Genesis 8x33 You'll be thrilled with the Kowa I gave up SLCs for the Meostar

Re: Smaller-size bino query RHutch #16028651 04/25/21
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scottishkat Campfire Regular S Joined: Sep 2015 Posts: 833	I bought a pair of Leupold wind river optic about 20 years ago and have been using them all this time. A good friend just purchased a pair of Zeiss Terra ED for half the $ and they're really good I think he said he paid 330.00. Good luck and shoot straight y'all

Re: Smaller-size bino query StrayDog #16054679 05/04/21
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StrayDog Campfire Tracker S Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 7,124 Texas	Originally Posted by StrayDog Originally Posted by KH1473 Kowa Genesis 8x33 are fantastic Doug, Seems to be a lot of votes for Genesis, is their resolution as good as Zeiss Conquest 8x32 HD? Thanks in advance I've bought an 8x33 Kowa Genesis from a great deal Doug often makes with campfire members. First, let me say my vision is only 20/25 and I'm aware everyone's eyes can prefer different binos, but mine have been preferring the Zeiss Conquest HD over a pair of Cabelas Euro Instinct (made by Meopta), and even over viewing through some of my friend's alpha binos. Been playing around with them focusing on some distant pine trees etc. I'm finding compared to the Conquest HD, the view through Genesis is bright and the focus remains sharp through a deeper focal depth, which makes it seem more 3D. They are fun to look through, but I can't really detect more resolution than the Conquest HD (which my eyes really like), other than that the Genesis is preferable in all other ways. It will be with me during hunting season!

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