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Re: 1911's [Re: Swifty52] #16003281 04/17/21
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Originally Posted by Swifty52
Ok, so we have unreliability which is rather broad and could encompass many things. But here again it’s really nothing uncommon to the 1911 without some tweaking.

Then we have MIM parts complaint for a Kimber, but unfortunately Colt and SA both use MIM parts just as extensively. Seems there are just as many complaints.
So what it boils down to is that any 1911 under 1200 bucks ( I may be a bit low) or a full custom has MIM parts and is just as prone to have reliability issues as any other maker. Good probability that all the MIM parts are done by 1 or 2 makers for all 1911’s.
As far as the external extractor ala S&W, I always thought it was a stupid idea.

But I have two Springfield Armory 1911s that have never malfunctioned. Heck, I have a $300.00 Tisas 1911 that's never malfunctioned. My two Kimbers, and that of my friend, were jamomatics.


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Re: 1911's [Re: The_Real_Hawkeye] #16003319 04/17/21
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I’m trying to avoid a Dan Wesson but right now, I think it’s the best deal out there for a quality gun.



Do not resist young man, they are a hell of a well built 1911, my DW 10mm will never be for sale as long as i'm drawing air., 11 rounds on board with 3 skinny 10 round Tripp mags in a rear pocket and you're set for about anything one can run into in the woods.

Dan Wesson's reputation is excellent.


Yessir, not saying much, but you'd need to find a better shooter than me to find difference in my DW vs Les Baer, if that front sight is where it's supposed to be when the trigger breaks those two will put the bullets in there every time.

Re: 1911's [Re: BillyGoatGruff] #16003746 04/17/21
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I’d be shopping for Dan Wesson’s or Kimbers (70 style , no firing pin block)

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Re: 1911's [Re: BillyGoatGruff] #16003963 04/17/21
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Have Range Officer, like it.
Only real complaint is the flat black sights.
I don't shoot paper, i ehoot at stuff.
And my eyes struggle against some targets or backgrounds.
Fixable, but it's just a toy.


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Re: 1911's [Re: deflave] #16004053 04/17/21
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Originally Posted by deflave
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If I was dumb enough to want a 1911 I'd get Springfield's Ronin.


Why that model?

MM


The newer Springfields I've been around ran really well and it comes in 9mm and it doesn't have a rail and it's about the limit I'd pay for a 1911 that I wanted to shoot a bunch.


Uh-huh.................that model is no better or worse than a dozen other current production 1911's. But it is good. And I like it. But it's not "better".

YMMV

MM


I never claimed it was better.

I was telling my friend which one I would buy.




I see.

MM

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Re: 1911's [Re: BillyGoatGruff] #16004066 04/17/21
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I only bought (and still own) three 1911 pistols. Two are NIB (Collector Items) and the other . . .
I shoot occasionally (but very well) and like everything about it - t wouldn't change a thing.

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Re: 1911's [Re: BillyGoatGruff] #16004070 04/17/21
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I have 7 1911’s, I know many have way more and way better than mine. But I’ll tell you what I know.
Two Colt goldcups, one a trophy and one a series 70. Both rattle and both shoot better then I can. Feed everything/eject everything.
Colt XSE Commander LT. Tight and a good shooter. No complaints.
Colt Gov. Model S.S. Rattler, been shot a bunch. No feed problems ore ejection. Accuracy = if I hit you your probably not getting up. Though I did my own trigger job on it and it’s much better.
Ruger Commander LT. With thin grips. Tight, great shooter.
Kimber Pro HD. Tight gun, ejection problems and feeding problems. Try everything decided to take it to a gunsmith.
It has a loose ejector and a out of adjustment extractor. I bought it used though and the extractor had been filed on. But I don’t think it had been fired much. 8rnd mags are stiff.
Kimber TLE Ultra. Tight, good carry gun. Accuracy is nothing to brag about but it’ll get the job done. No feeding problems or ejection problems.
Now I had an 8th 1911 that I sold when I bought the light weight. A Ruger commander steel frame. The thing jammed with everything, All kinds of failed to feeds.
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Re: 1911's [Re: BillyGoatGruff] #16004157 04/17/21
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Std gi sights and my eyes don't work in any low light conditions very well and the day I picked up that Springfield Gov't model with the white 3 dot sights I knew what I needed on the spot. Dead reliable to boot. Load ammo shoot the hell out of it, all good. Mb


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Re: 1911's [Re: gunner500] #16004186 04/17/21
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Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by TWR
I’m trying to avoid a Dan Wesson but right now, I think it’s the best deal out there for a quality gun.



Do not resist young man, they are a hell of a well built 1911, my DW 10mm will never be for sale as long as i'm drawing air., 11 rounds on board with 3 skinny 10 round Tripp mags in a rear pocket and you're set for about anything one can run into in the woods.

Dan Wesson's reputation is excellent.


Yessir, not saying much, but you'd need to find a better shooter than me to find difference in my DW vs Les Baer, if that front sight is where it's supposed to be when the trigger breaks those two will put the bullets in there every time.


I was on the edge and couldn’t find one to dare me but then I started down another rabbit trail with revolvers. Spent too much but bought what I could and glad I did. Everything is too high right now if you can even find something worth buying. One day I’ll pick one up and jump in with both feet.

Re: 1911's [Re: MontanaMan] #16004293 04/17/21
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Originally Posted by MontanaMan


I see.

MM


Did I stub my toe on your kghunt or something?


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Re: 1911's [Re: BillyGoatGruff] #16004425 04/17/21
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Nah, but since you're not a 1911 fan, I was just wondering why you were picking the Ronin over all the other equivalent versions.

But of course you're entitled to your opinion & the Ronin is a nice pistol at a good price point, but just more or less the same as numerous other except for the name.

Do you have one?

MM

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Originally Posted by MontanaMan
Nah, but since you're not a 1911 fan, I was just wondering why you were picking the Ronin over all the other equivalent versions.

But of course you're entitled to your opinion & the Ronin is a nice pistol at a good price point, but just more or less the same as numerous other except for the name.

Do you have one?

MM


Now you can't read.

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Re: 1911's [Re: BillyGoatGruff] #16004502 04/17/21
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Flip it to a 9 and go STI 2011 Staccato.

Go *Duo* if you want to add a optic.

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Re: 1911's [Re: deflave] #16004562 04/17/21
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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by MontanaMan
Nah, but since you're not a 1911 fan, I was just wondering why you were picking the Ronin over all the other equivalent versions.

But of course you're entitled to your opinion & the Ronin is a nice pistol at a good price point, but just more or less the same as numerous other except for the name.

Do you have one?

MM


Now you can't read.

Great.





So, you don't like them, don't have one, but recommend one that's the same as a dozen others...............Ok, I got it now.

But the Ronin is a nice gun, catchy name too.

Thanks for the guidance & input in case I want to buy one. Gruff could do worse as well.

MM

Re: 1911's [Re: HeavyLoad] #16004759 04/18/21
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Originally Posted by HeavyLoad
I have 7 1911’s, I know many have way more and way better than mine. But I’ll tell you what I know.
Two Colt goldcups, one a trophy and one a series 70. Both rattle and both shoot better then I can. Feed everything/eject everything.
Colt XSE Commander LT. Tight and a good shooter. No complaints.
Colt Gov. Model S.S. Rattler, been shot a bunch. No feed problems ore ejection. Accuracy = if I hit you your probably not getting up. Though I did my own trigger job on it and it’s much better.
Ruger Commander LT. With thin grips. Tight, great shooter.
Kimber Pro HD. Tight gun, ejection problems and feeding problems. Try everything decided to take it to a gunsmith.
It has a loose ejector and a out of adjustment extractor. I bought it used though and the extractor had been filed on. But I don’t think it had been fired much. 8rnd mags are stiff.
Kimber TLE Ultra. Tight, good carry gun. Accuracy is nothing to brag about but it’ll get the job done. No feeding problems or ejection problems.
Now I had an 8th 1911 that I sold when I bought the light weight. A Ruger commander steel frame. The thing jammed with everything, All kinds of failed to feeds.
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You ever have trouble with the sights on your Gold Cups? I had a Gold Cup, lost the front sight during a match. At some point in a string of fire it hit eject and disappeared over my shoulder. At another match the hollow roll pin in the rear sight broke. That lets the leg of the sight jack up in the air at about a 30* angle. Aggravating son of a gun.


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Re: 1911's [Re: BillyGoatGruff] #16004812 04/18/21
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Pops had a stainless GC that tossed front sights and had the rear go to hell more than once. Shot good when things stayed in place.

Bought a SIG target and after a while sold the GC.

Re: 1911's [Re: MontanaMan] #16004814 04/18/21
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Originally Posted by MontanaMan
that's the same as a dozen others...............Ok, I got it now.

But the Ronin is a nice gun, catchy name too.

Thanks for the guidance & input in case I want to buy one. Gruff could do worse as well.

MM


Good luck with your kghunt.


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Re: 1911's [Re: BillyGoatGruff] #16004824 04/18/21
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I currently own three 5" stainless 45ACP 1911's and probably run 200 rounds through each monthly of my 230 gr. jacketed hard ball ammo loaded with 5.2 grs. W231.

They are still factory stock, they've been trouble free and all three are accurate enough to keep rounds on the 8" and 6" gongs at 25 yds. which is all I require of them.

SA Mil-Spec......S&W 'E' Series.......Ruger SR1911.

I haven't checked recently but they are not extremely expensive and all three can probably still be had for around $700.00 or so OTD.

I wouldn't want to give any of them up but if I had to pick just one I'd probably go with the S&W 'E' Series.





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I know Gruff is going to tell me he will never sell it, but I have found the Colt's and Springfield's to be the easiest to liquidate and get a decent return on your money.

Assuming a regular market.


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Re: 1911's [Re: MontanaMan] #16005195 04/18/21
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Originally Posted by MontanaMan

But the Ronin is a nice gun, catchy name too.

MM


It's the Japanese word for a rogue or freelance Samurai.


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