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Indy,
That is exactly why I started this thread. The general bashing of Remington 700's with reguard to push feed, dinky extractors, bolt handles, triggers etc. and suitability for general hunting, let alone African hunting has become a favorite past time on the internet. And here we have a story of Harry Selby using the precursor to the 700, a 721 in the common 30-06 chamberng and finding it satisfactory in every way. I guess he didn't know that he needed a custom built, bedded, tuned trigger, tweeked extractor, custom bottom metal, controlled round feed rifle in a wildcat magnum chambering to hunt general plains game along with lions and lepoards. Of course Harry Selby isn't an internet expert. Neither was Finn Aagaard. While Finn stated that he preferred mauser rifles, he had no problem if someone prefered a push feed rifle like a Remington, Weatherby, Savage or Browning. And of course there is Warren Page who hunted the world and shot piles of dangerous game with a 375 Weatherby magnum built on a Remington 721 action....and Ross Seyfried (who held a PH license in Tanzania)and who hunted Africa with(among other things) a 416 Remington Magnum on a Remington 700 action.....proving in both cases that any action works well if it works the way it's supposed to.... 
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Great article, well written. Part of why my 2nd rifle was, and still is, my '06 Mauser. Don't like Remmies at all. Only have three. 
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I've got a M721 in .280 that I have had for 20+ years. I've never seen another one. Anyway, I restocked it as the original owner cut the stock down to about a 11 1/2" pull. It is a very accurate rifle and has taken a lot of deer.
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Yup, great article, thanks for starting this thread. Same thoughts here, don't know how Selby managed to use the 721 for so long (on some Dangerous game no less!) without breaking a bolt handle, extractor, etc. Basic maintenance goes a long way!
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![[Linked Image]](http://www.americanrifleman.org/Webcontent/images/2012-1/2012131144817-harry_selby_main.jpg) Here is the picture in your link. Is that a 721? 99, He had a 722 as a field rifle early on, and did not get along with it. He moved on to other hunting rifle designs......... Do you honestly think that little rifle could possibly be a Remington 721 or are you just trying to bait HHB? Not sure of your motives here. You're sounding more and more like a troll. Hard to believe you're dumb enough to really think that .22 is a high powered rifle. The only alternative to being off the charts dumb, is being a troll. Neither is good. DF
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proving in both cases that any action works well if it works the way it's supposed to.... smile That's right Bob!
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now I just gotta get out there and use it.....grin
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Has any one read the article "No Ordinary Rifle" by Harry Selby in the March, 2012 issue of the American Rifleman? With all of the Remington 700 bashing that goes on, some may find it interesting. The rifle is a Remington 721 in 30-06 Springfield. The scope it wore was a Redfield 4X. The ammo was Winchester 180gr Silvertips. This equipment was used on all manner of game to include lion and leopard. No high velocity magnum, no monometal bullets with plastic tips, no high power variable scope with a huge objective and turrets or dots. How did Mr. Selby ever manage? I've been saying this all along. It's all you need.
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I need to read this book because I consider that the near perfect rifle.
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Fantastic article! Love reading this stuff. There will probably always be debate about what is "best" but what is needed is to define "best at what"? I certainly have my preferences but will hunt with what is in my hands. What this really proves is that a good 30-06 in the hands of a good hunter is all that is needed for almost anything.
Thanks for sharing!
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I agree, a 30-06 with a 180gr bullet at 2700fps just plain works. And it pretty much duplicates the Point of Aim as a .375 H & H with 270g factory loads. The old classic PHs loved that 2 gun combo.
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I love my 721 and 722, but both have way to much drop at the comb for me to comfortably shoot using as scope. They are both butter smooth. I have both in later 700 stocks now. The bolt cut out for the bolt handle looks a little odd, but I can shoot without getting beat to death. They are made to shoot with open sights.
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Has any one read the article "No Ordinary Rifle" by Harry Selby in the March, 2012 issue of the American Rifleman? With all of the Remington 700 bashing that goes on, some may find it interesting. The rifle is a Remington 721 in 30-06 Springfield. The scope it wore was a Redfield 4X. The ammo was Winchester 180gr Silvertips. This equipment was used on all manner of game to include lion and leopard. No high velocity magnum, no monometal bullets with plastic tips, no high power variable scope with a huge objective and turrets or dots. How did Mr. Selby ever manage? Yes. ^
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I bought one some years ago . I never understood why it ended up like it did . Barrel was sideways for lack of better words .
Sight screw holes we’re at 3 O’clock and lettering was at 12 O’clock . Was chambered in 280 , barrel set back ?
Anyway bought it for 150.00 , never shot it in that configuration . Took it to John Brown , a local smith , and told him he could leave the stock as is , rough , but I wanted it to shoot .
We decided on a Shilen select match grade in 30-06 . He chambered , trued action and barrel , lapped lugs , did his magic on the trigger , bedded it , and I got exactly what I wanted .
175 grain Berger’s over H4350 , IMR 4350 , and incredibly accurate with either .
Not much to look at , but shoots lights out .
Have shot a lot of deer with it and a couple neck shot turkeys .
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Harry Selby was a famous African pro hunter and a pretty smart guy. I'll bet he told more than 1 client to just bring 5 boxes of 30-06 and I have the rifle for plains game hunts. I'd almost bet he got by on left over ammo in it his whole time with it. Mb
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I will soon be acquiring a 721 in 300 H&H from an estate. I think I'm gonna like it.
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