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Had a New Haven Classic Matte in 300 WM in a wood stock. Thought I would try it in the tupperware it came with to see how bad it shot . I assumed it would be terrible and that would motivate me to get a McMillan or some such stock to improve accuracy. Lo and behold here is what I got using Federal Premium Barnes Triple Shock and Triple Shock X at 100 yards. I guess the moral is shoot these old cannons before you go spending a lot on improvements.

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Nothing wrong with that!


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Yep, the early CRFs were/are very nice rifles. The Classic Synthetic Matt was only made for 3 years; 94-96.

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Is the classic synthetic matte all plastic or plastic composite?


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Not sure I know the difference. Seems like all plastic to me. Perhaps someone else knows.

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Winchester says it's "our advanced, black fiberglass/graphite composite stock material" in the 1994 catalog.

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Nice. Thank you.


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FWIW, my M70 is definitely matte but the serial number is a G36XXXX so I am thinking it was made in 2000-2002? The barrel is not stamped SM so I think it is a Black Shadow rifle not the earlier synthetic matte. Stock is like this one https://www.gunbroker.com/item/892939451 but it is control round feed with the bolt numbered to the receiver.

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Interesting. The Black Shadow came out in 98. I only have catalogs through 99 but in both of those years the Black Shadow was a push feed. In 98 and 99, it did have the same stock you pointed out in the GB add (a push feed) which appears to be the same as the Synthetic Matte; no W imprint. In 98, Winchester describes it as "Durable, moisture-resistant composite stock." Guess i need to keep adding to my catalogs.

Regardless, it's a great shooter!

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I am stumped too. I found the 2001-2019 catalogs on line. I did not find this version anywhere. I got it in a trade so maybe someone else swapped it into this stock. I also could not find a CRF version of the matte rifle in those catalogs but that is what it is. Matters not though, as you say it seems to work great.

This is what I have except no boss https://www.gunsamerica.com/998826341/Winchester-Model-70-Classic-Synthetic-Matte-Bos.htm

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Originally Posted by Milwroad
Not sure I know the difference. Seems like all plastic to me. Perhaps someone else knows.


They are all plastic. Regardless of what fancy name's they have for the materials. Its soft, you'll know what I'm talking about if you ever remove material from the barrel channel or glass bed it. I do like the ergo's of the stock, personally, but they are heavy and soft. Good stocks, nonetheless...


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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.

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Originally Posted by Milwroad
Not sure I know the difference. Seems like all plastic to me. Perhaps someone else knows.


They are all plastic. Regardless of what fancy name's they have for the materials. Its soft, you'll know what I'm talking about if you ever remove material from the barrel channel or glass bed it. I do like the ergo's of the stock, personally, but they are heavy and soft. Good stocks, nonetheless...


I think they help with recoil as well.. Definitely the design of it.


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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.

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Originally Posted by Milwroad
Not sure I know the difference. Seems like all plastic to me. Perhaps someone else knows.


They are all plastic. Regardless of what fancy name's they have for the materials. Its soft, you'll know what I'm talking about if you ever remove material from the barrel channel or glass bed it. I do like the ergo's of the stock, personally, but they are heavy and soft. Good stocks, nonetheless...


I think they help with recoil as well.. Definitely the design of it.


Ergos... Ergos..


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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.

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Not that it matters but I found the 70 Classic SM with the tupperware stock in the 1995 Winchester catalog as Centennial suggested.


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