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They’re all good. The Hornet does a lot with a little, once you get it figgered out. I stumbled on my Browning by accident, browsing my LGS. Spotted a very pretty single-shot in the rack and asked to see it. Turned out they had four left of the five they received. The counter guy had chosen his first, but let me take my pick from the others. His must have been a smoker, because mine is really nice. The tag said $695, and I traded two of my other rifles for it, reserving the gloss Vari-X II 3-9 from one of them for the Hornet. Perfect match, and it’s stayed dialed in for 20 years.

Neither factory load I tried did very well, but using Ross’s advice and seating bullets way out near the leade made all the difference. It’s my favorite rifle, one that will never depart until I do. When my sons divvy up my stuff, pretty sure this one and my Fieldcraft will go first and second.

I'm fortunate that my CZ Hornet really likes the first load I tried in it, because I'm only an average handloader. I haven't had it out of the safe in years, something that I need to fix. Maybe see if it still kills crows like it used to did, or maybe a coyote. A 40gr. Vmax at 3k (10 feet from the muzzle) out to work on Wile E.

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If you're done shooting when primers are more expensive than $40/1000, you might be done shooting.

When Ross was with Wolfe I read his articles all the time, even when the topics weren't in my main interest. He is a great writer and allways keeps you glued to his line. The 22 hornet article is classic Seyfried. He sorted out the problems and got the results. Mb

Lots of good info there. I wish I was smart enough to figure out how to print it. I have a Pre64 M70 22 Hornet that would benefit from some tweaking.

The .22 Hornet is a wonderful little cartridge with a whole lot going for it, but it is not without its compromises and shortfalls. What the Hornet lacks the most is a deep desire to be accurate. I have little belief in what I call “gun writer magic.” That is, wearisome load development that pretends to make the inaccurate, accurate. In the case of the Hornet, we will break the rules. This one likes to be coddled. A skilled handloader can perhaps do more for a Hornet’s accuracy than any other cartridge. Here you will see attention to fine detail and powder weights quoted in tenths of a grain, not because it makes me look smart, but because it matters to the Hornet. We will also explore some interesting, often surprising details that can make a big difference in how your rifle shoots.Hornet cases are very different as demonstrated by the Sako case (left) and the Remington-Peters case (right).
Hornet cases are very different as demonstrated by the Sako case (left) and the Remington-Peters case (right).

We should begin by saying that while the Hornet is different, it is still the same as any other rifle cartridge. That is, to prove that you have accurate cartridges, you must have an accurate rifle. If you have a bad barrel, crooked chamber, bad crown or bedding problems, there is little or nothing you can do with ammunition to make accuracy better.

On the other hand, many accurate rifles will be inaccurate, even with handloads that would appear to be very good ones. Here is where we begin to see the extremely fastidious nature of the little shell. Essentially it is all taper. There is little about the shape of a Hornet case that causes it to align perfectly in the chamber. Because it is short, just like the short sight radius on a snub-gun, any degree of misalignment is magnified. Therefore we begin by looking for ways to cause the cartridges to be pointing straight down the barrel before the primer lights.

Here we can return to good, basic handloading practices. First, you should use cases that have been fired in the rifle where the loads will be used. This ensures that cases fit the chamber to absolute perfection. Then, we will neck size only. You can use special neck-size-only dies, or do as I do and run a normal full-length sizer that is backed well away from the shellholder. Sizing about .200 inch of the case neck is usually plenty. All you want to do is reduce enough of the neck to hold the bullet securely.

Sectioned cases show why the Sako brass is so much heavier and has less internal volume, which can have a drastic effect on pressure and accuracy.
Sectioned cases show why the Sako brass is so much heavier and has less internal volume, which can have a drastic effect on pressure and accuracy.
This neck sizing does two things. First, it leaves us with a case that is held in the center of the chamber by that portion of neck that has been left unsized. This also leaves the case shoulder, tapered as it may be, in a position to touch the front of the chamber. Now it headspaces on this shoulder, not on the uneven rim. Further, this sloping shoulder now becomes a perfectly mated taper to the chamber’s taper. The critter has little choice except to show up right in the middle.

Before we leave the subject of cases, be sure not to overlook case brand. Hornet cases vary widely from maker to maker. There is no good or bad about this, only different. The average case weights I find are as follows: Remington-Peters – 47.4; Frontier – 51.8; and Winchester-Western – 53.5 grains. When you consider that most loads use only 10 grains of powder, even a slight variation in case capacity can make a big difference. Therefore, if you have different case brands, be sure to keep them sorted. Also, Hornet cases will grow as you use them, and often grow at different rates. It is a good idea to keep them trimmed to the same length. The little Hornet is about details, little details.

Now that we have one brand of cases, trimmed to length and neck sized, we will worry about a very, no, the most important factor in most rifles’ accuracy. This is overall cartridge length, or more precisely, the bullet’s relationship to the chamber throat. If I had to make a prediction it would be that most Hornet rifles will shoot best with the bullet ogive just making contact with the lands. This is one more step toward enforced alignment of cartridge, bullet and bore.

There is no better way to achieve this than with a Stoney Point OAL gauge (combined with a special Hornet adapter). This clever tool allows you to test various bullets in your chamber and then measure the length from the head to the ogive. This length varies surprisingly, even with bullets of the same weight. The shape and design of the ogive have a lot to do with where the bullet actually hits the rifling.

Hornet cases come from three U.S. sources and two foreign.
Hornet cases come from three U.S. sources and two foreign.
The best plan is to make a few cartridges with the bullets seated .010 inch short of touching. Test this accuracy, then try some that are .020 inch away, followed by some that have “zero” clearance. With these three batches the rifle is almost sure to tell you what it likes. One glitch is that most of the detachable-clip magazines severely limit overall cartridge length. The Ruger is about the longest at 1.820 inches, while the CZ/BRNO magnums are shorter at 1.730 inches.

The neck-sized case (right) uses the expanded neck portion to positively center the rounds in the chamber.
The neck-sized case (right) uses the expanded neck portion to positively center the rounds in the chamber.
What this means is you may not be able to touch the lands with cartridges that will fit in the magazines. It is possible to shorten the plastic “filler” that is inside the BRNO clip, allowing it to take longer rounds. I have done this on my old Fox, because it loves ammunition that is wedged into the lands. Others are not so demanding, while the single shots, like the T/C Encore, will accept any cartridge length.

Right beside bullet seating are bullets themselves, in terms of accuracy and performance. There is a surprising variety of Hornet bullets. There are some .223 inch diameter that are designed for old rifles with small barrels. Generally, modern shooters can disregard the undersized bullets and use the conventional .224 inch. There are a number of dedicated “Hornet” bullets from Nosler, Hornady and Sierra. The Nosler and Hornady are 45 grains, while Sierra has 40- and 45-grain Hornet bullets. But this is only the beginning.

Now there are many of the light .224-inch bullets that work well in Hornets. Speer has 40 and 45 grainers, as well as a flatpoint for the .218 Bee; Nosler offers 40-grain Ballistic Tips, and Horn­ady has the 40-grain V-MAX as well as the delightful little 35-grain V-MAX that is in its factory ammunition. You can also buy the Winchester bullet as a component. In addition to the bullet variety being a serious factor in accuracy, as you will see in the load tables, different bullets can also give you a fine variety of terminal performance. While most loading manuals will give you data for 50- and 55-grain bullets in the Hornet, I rarely find these long bullets offer anything especially desirable.

Handloads include the (left to right) Hornady 35-grain V-MAX, Sierra 40-grain, Nosler 40-grain Ballistic Tip and 45-grain Solid Base, Winchester 46-grain hollowpoint and Speer 46-grain flatnose.
Handloads include the (left to right) Hornady 35-grain V-MAX, Sierra 40-grain, Nosler 40-grain Ballistic Tip and 45-grain Solid Base, Winchester 46-grain hollowpoint and Speer 46-grain flatnose.
Most of the dedicated Hornet bullets will have quite thin jackets and are reasonably explosive on impact. The Hornady 35-grain V-MAX is absolutely spectacular, offering almost big-gun ker-splat out of the little case. At the other end of the spectrum are the light bullets designed to stand up to extreme speed from a .22-250 Remington or .220 Swift. These “4,000-fps” bullets have pretty tough jackets and may actually act in a controlled-expansion manner, at the relatively slow Hornet speeds. With some experimentation you may find that an ultra-high speed bullet may expand just a little at 2,500 fps, making it perfect for turkeys, rabbits or squirrels. My favorite all-around Hornet bullet is the last surviving, old-fashioned Nosler Solid Base. This is the 45-grain Hornet with a standard lead tip instead of the plastic nose. It is usually very accurate, quite violent on impact but with enough integrity to plow through plenty of coyote or even the skulls of larger beasts.

The RCBS 2000 Progressive press offers high speed and accuracy.
The RCBS 2000 Progressive press offers high speed and accuracy.
The Dillon 550 has loaded many thousand, very accurate Hornet rounds.
The Dillon 550 has loaded many thousand, very accurate Hornet rounds.
Powder selection for Hornets is relatively simple. Usually the best magnum pistol powders are the best Hornet powders. Hodgdon H-110 and Winchester W-296 are always good choices. An old favorite of mine is the now-discontinued W-680, but Accurate 1680 can be used as a very similar propellant. Other powders are usually 100 to 200 fps behind H-110 and W-296 in the velocity race. However, in the quest for accuracy, speed is not everything, and it might be worthwhile to try IMR-4227, IMR- or H-4198 as well as Alliant 2400.
There is also a very interesting Hornet powder on the market. As it turns out, it may also be the best magnum pistol powder. This is Hodgdon Lil’Gun. It was designed for .410 shotshells and has quickly adapted itself to big revolvers and the little rifle. It is especially happy with 45-grain bullets, at times beating H-110 in the speed department, while reducing pressure. As I mentioned earlier, powder weight is critical in the little case. While in most rifles I usually worry in full-grain increments, or at worst .5 grain the Hornet will notice .10-grain changes. Using H-110 as an example, .10 grain can add 50 to 100 fps, at near maximum loads. So, do not be afraid to tweak your powder measure just a little in experiments, keeping in mind that few powder scales will reliably detect .10 grain.

Like the rest of Hornet loading, primers can and do make a big difference. One of the biggest surprises in my reloading career came several years ago in the form a letter from an elderly gentleman. It seems he had been loading Hornets almost as long as there had been Hornets. He made a suggestion that had not occurred to me or anyone else that I knew of: “Try Small Pistol primers.” Low and behold, at times they will cut groups in half! When we think about it, this makes perfect sense. A little case with a small bore in front of it, burning relatively fast powder, really does not need a huge violent flame to get it going. Just the reverse is true; a small gentle primer seems to make most Hornets happy. With H-110, W-296, 680 or 1680 pistol primers are almost always the most accurate. When Lil’Gun powder is used, I have found that at least a standard rifle primer and often a Magnum Small Rifle primer give best accuracy. Details, details, details.

When I load shells for Hornets, I have two criteria: accuracy and lots of them. To that end, in addition to neck sizing, I like the floating-chamber “benchrest” seating dies. Mine are from Forster/Bonanza. Dies like this get the bullet and case in a die before it starts to push the bullet into the case. The result is often a straighter round.

Stoney Point’s OAL gauge is a must for serious handloaders. The brass Hornet adapter allows it to work with the little cases.
Stoney Point’s OAL gauge is a must for serious handloaders. The brass Hornet adapter allows it to work with the little cases.
When we talk about lots of shells, I mean pockets full that come off a progressive reloading press. A Dillon 550 has been my standby for a long time. With properly adjusted dies and ball powder, this machine will produce ammunition that will shoot right up to the rifle’s ability. Another tool on my bench is the RCBS 2000 Progressive machine. It is very similar to the Dillon with a different style powder measure and the magic RCBS APS priming system. Both these machines give you a finished shell at each pull of the handle, or something like 500 or 600 an hour. By using Dillon or Midway spray case lube, it is possible to turn out ammunition almost as fast as the average Hornet shooter will use it.

With an overview of some of the ways to make Hornets happy, let’s look at the three rifles to see how they responded to some coddled ammunition. First, as almost expected, the Ruger shot groups with well-fitted reloads that were almost identical to the factory shells. This is because of some problems with the factory bedding, especially in the forend area. The stringing was more defined; that is, it almost cut slices in the paper. This showed that the loads were indeed more accurate, but it was unable to put them in a tiny group.

The custom M-84 “K” Hornet with spectacular wood from Calico Hardwoods and stock by Don Allen is a 1⁄2-minute rifle with a Leupold 2-7x.
The custom M-84 “K” Hornet with spectacular wood from Calico Hardwoods and stock by Don Allen is a 1⁄2-minute rifle with a Leupold 2-7x.
The CZ rifle responded as expected. It was quite accurate with a few factory loads, often grouping under an inch. With handloaded ammunition, tuned to the rifle, there were quite a few .5-inch groups and those just under an inch were very common.
My T/C Encore proved to be a bit of a head-scratcher. During the shooting it started to do some strange things, not the least of which was double grouping, shooting two small groups about 3⁄4-inch apart with each string. I traced this to a bit of a bedding problem in the forearm. Once this was straightened out, it began to shoot round, “honest” groups.

As the search for the perfect load went forward, a trend began to emerge. The tighter the ammunition was in the Encore, the more it wanted to string vertically. With the cases barely sized and the bullets seated in the rifling it would not equal its fine performance with factory loads. Okay, I thought, if it doesn’t like the snug treatment, let’s see what happens if we full-length size the cases and give the bullets just a little clearance. Bingo, little groups.

The T/C Encore custom shop Hornet is scoped with a Bausch & Lomb (discontinued). This rifle defies the rules and prefers full-length sized cases.
The T/C Encore custom shop Hornet is scoped with a Bausch & Lomb (discontinued). This rifle defies the rules and prefers full-length sized cases.
What I believe was happening was that the tight loads were interfering with the lock-up of the locking lugs in the action. That is, it would shut to a slightly different degree from shot to shot. This affected the barrel vibrations and caused the bullets to string up and down. There is also the possibility that the chamber throat is slightly misaligned, giving an advantage to rounds that can “float” a little. The only real rule is that there are no rules where Hornets are concerned.
Primers make a big difference in Hornet loads. Often, the mild small pistol primers are much more accurate than rifle primers.
Primers make a big difference in Hornet loads. Often, the mild small pistol primers are much more accurate than rifle primers.
A few other rifles and their preferences are interesting. One of the toughest I have ever faced was a full-length Mannlicher-stocked Kimber. Now, from a pure accuracy standpoint, the full-length forend wood is a bad idea. I fussed with the bedding until it seemed happy, then I went after a load. This is a real one-man dog. It only likes 40-grain Sierra bullets and W-296 powder. Where it averages less than 3⁄4 inch with this load, twice that is about the best it will do with other apparently fine ammunition. This was one that went from 11⁄2-inch groups down to as little as 1⁄2 inch with exactly the same load, except Small Pistol primers were used instead of Remington No. 71⁄2 Small Rifle primers.
The old Model 70 likes the 40-grain Sierra bullet, but this one wants a big dose of W-680 powder instead of the faster W-296. With this combination, the old, huge rifle often gives us a 3⁄4-inch group and sometimes much less.

Ross used a variety of Hornet dies. The Forster Benchrest seater reduces bullet runout. The RCBS X die eliminates case growth and also rules out the often necessary neck sizing.
Ross used a variety of Hornet dies. The Forster Benchrest seater reduces bullet runout. The RCBS X die eliminates case growth and also rules out the often necessary neck sizing.
As ugly ducklings go, the BRNO Fox wins. It is rough and horrible with its poor imitation of a Weath­erby stock, but the wretch will shoot. It rarely goes over 11⁄4 inches with anything and really likes the 45-grain Nosler Solid Base and W-680 or Lil’Gun powder.

There is one last part of the Hornet story – the improved “K” Hornet. The improved version with almost no body taper, a sharp shoulder and short neck all of a sudden becomes an almost perfect cartridge. Every­thing that is wrong with the regular round is instantly erased. Not only does the improved version give us more velocity, at times 200 fps more, it usually just begs to shoot.

Once upon a time I had a Ruger No. 1 Hornet. Even with forend modifications it was mediocre, rarely breaking an inch. A quick stab with a “K” reamer, with no other changes, turned it into a super-accurate rifle. I also have a very exotic and wonderful “K.” This one began as a Kimber Model 84 action that was welded and reworked into a Hornet. It takes seven rounds from the top, just like the Model 70, eliminating the annoying clips. Then it was stocked in a screaming piece of California Claro walnut by Don Allen. The end result was an all-day, everyday, .5-inch rifle that is just about as sleek as a bolt rifle can be.

A nightmare or a handloader’s dream? The Hornet, like so much in life, is all about perspective. If you like easy out-of-the box accuracy, a .222 Remington probably suits you best. On the other hand, if you like to put some effort into fine-tuned handloads and see real results, the Hornet is for you. Hornets are by far my favorite “little” rifles. They might be yours too.­

I called Wolf publishing to try to get a copy of the article and would have subscribed but the person on the phone was less than helpful. He couldn't find what issue it appeared in and needless to say I didn't subscribe.

Rifle magazine Jan. '01 is part 1 of the Hornet article
Handloader magazine Feb. '01 is part 2

GSPfan

Are you talking about the one I posted above? You can copy and paste it in Word and print from there.

Mike

GSPfan

Are you talking about the one I posted above? You can copy and paste it in Word and print from there.

Mike

Thanks Mike I got it printed. Didn't know it was a two part article. Now to quest the Jan issue of rifle.

Ah me either I understand now.

https://www.wolfeoutdoorsports.com/rifle-single-issue-193-january-2001/

I have a K'ed Contender 12" barrel. Lots of fun. Need to buy a couple of 'tender actions and one Encore.but they usually want more than I think they are worth. Certainly better than those aluminium upper/lower things though. Since I like one at a time, the K hornet is great. Be Well, RZ.