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Ford F-350 motor rebuild decisions..... #16010022 04/19/21
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Got a buddy with an ‘04 F-350 4wd single axle crew cab, that has a blown 6.0 that I could likely buy for a song. Question would be: do I get the 6.0 rebuilt ‘right’, or do I try to swap in a 6.8 gasser or 12/24 Valve Cummins and roll? I’m thinking I could do that and anything else it needs fixed, and still be in a good place, but not sure. Advice appreciated. Not set on anything yet....just know I’ll have the occasional need for 3/4-1 ton use that my 1st Gen tundra won’t handle, and it seems a possible way to get a good hauler 4wd without breaking the bank with prices these days.

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I’ve got a 6.0 that had most if the 6.0 stuff done at 100k miles. It’s at 183k miles now with no issues since. It’s mostly a run around truck, but routinely sees trailers with tractors, skid steers, loaded stock trailers, etc.

Bro in law has one as well, basically same mileage. His sees as much trailer duty as It does empty. He replaced the HPOP and had a local computer shop resolder his FICM and that’s about all he’s done to it drive train wise.

We both routinely do 500-1,000 mile one way trips.

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Swap in a Cummins


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Id do a good build on 6.0.......then you got a factory correct vehicle instead of a cobbled up mess , and still worth something if you decide to sell it


do head studs , delete the EGR , use CAT coolant right from the get go and you got a good rig


the 6.8 is a decent motor for gas , but it will suck alot of fuel and wont pull with a diesel

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I guess that’s more what I was hoping.

I figure the V10 gasser is the cheaper, easy button......but was hoping the 6.0 could be turned into a really good motor, done/modded correctly.

I’ve looked at Kill Devil, and seems the sky is the limit for options with them and others. I just don’t know what’s a ‘need’ vs what’s far more than is truly necessary?

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Deleted and bullet-proofed, they are supposed to be terrific engines.


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Originally Posted by ironbender
Deleted and bullet-proofed, they are supposed to be terrific engines.


Heard that as well. Friend had one and it was magnificent for him on his hobby farm in TX. Pulled anything/everything. He loves it.

IIRC he said "I can put 3k in tot he engine and be solid or 3k into another brand for transmission fixes - 3k is 3k, I'll run the Ford"


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The problem with plowing money into the 6.0 is that it is still a 6.no in the eyes of a buyer, which diminishes the value of the truck relative to anything else. That may be ok with you but it should be considered in your decision, especially if you ever plan to sell.

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If I ever sold it in this scenario, it’d probably still be a deal.....6.0 or not....and the only reason I’m even looking sideways at a Ford: it’s not an F150, and it’s gonna be super cheap to get, or I won’t buy it to begin with. wink

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The leaf springs on the front end is the only negative with that truck. A blown up 6.0 engine might only be EGR and oil cooler problems or head gaskets at the most. I have a late mode 06 King Ranch F350 4x4 and bought it blown up. My son and I fixed all the known issues and it's been a good truck for me so far. Having to pay someone to fix the truck it might not be worth it to you. IDK

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If you go with a gasser you’re probably going to have to deal with the fuel system, wiring harness and ECM, motor mounts, and maybe the transmission. With a Cummins you’re probably looking at a lot of the same stuff needing messed with. I’ve never done it but it would seem like these things wouldn’t be compatible.

I’d guess that rebuilding and deleting the 6.0 would be the simplest plan. And I know a couple guys who have them that have a bunch of miles with no trouble after they “fixed” them.

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Originally Posted by K1500
The problem with plowing money into the 6.0 is that it is still a 6.no in the eyes of a buyer, which diminishes the value of the truck relative to anything else. That may be ok with you but it should be considered in your decision, especially if you ever plan to sell.


Not in my eyes, I'll take a chance on a 6.0Llong before the 6.4L. If the seller has documentation for a properly upgraded 6.0, it's worth a look and maybe a little extra money. When I was looking to upgrade from a regular cab 7.3L to a crew cab diesel I combed through a ton of 6.0 pickups. As long as stuff is well documented I'd not hesitate in the least if it was the pickup I wanted.

A lot were supposedly bulletproofed, but no documentation and I wasn't willing to take a chance. Really I was looking for a stock 6.0 to upgrade. However, I never found one that wasn't "bulletproofed" or running a tuner. Tuners really were the biggest issue, when you don't have a clue as to which tune was enjoyed the most.

Wound up going with an 06 LBZ Duramax, don't regret it in the least when it comes to the engine, transmission, or ride. The truck has some other minor issues that annoy, but aren't serious. It pulls better than my old 7.3L and fits the whole family.

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Define bulletproofing.

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Originally Posted by WeimsnKs
Define bulletproofing.


Term started with BulletProof Diesel and their oil cooler relocation as part of the process.

Biggies are:
Head studs.
Head Gaskets.
EGE delete.
Oil cooler (as mentioned above)
Blue spring fuel pressure upgrade
ELC coolant

Some will throw in bigger injectors, different turbos, upgrade some other internals and I’m sure several things I’m forgetting

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Originally Posted by Cheesy
Originally Posted by WeimsnKs
Define bulletproofing.


Term started with BulletProof Diesel and their oil cooler relocation as part of the process.

Biggies are:
Head studs.
Head Gaskets.
EGE delete.
Oil cooler (as mentioned above)
Blue spring fuel pressure upgrade
ELC coolant

Some will throw in bigger injectors, different turbos, upgrade some other internals and I’m sure several things I’m forgetting


Almost got it, Bulletproof was a term coined by Bulletproof Diesel in AZ as mentioned.

It does include head studs (might as well replace gaskets at this time but not required) and oil cooler replacement. However, it is an EGR replacement cooler not delete as well as a FICIM upgrade and new waterpump to complete a Bulletproof engine.

Anything else isn't correcting the major failures in the 6.0L engine.

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Originally Posted by taylorce1
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Originally Posted by WeimsnKs
Define bulletproofing.


Term started with BulletProof Diesel and their oil cooler relocation as part of the process.

Biggies are:
Head studs.
Head Gaskets.
EGE delete.
Oil cooler (as mentioned above)
Blue spring fuel pressure upgrade
ELC coolant

Some will throw in bigger injectors, different turbos, upgrade some other internals and I’m sure several things I’m forgetting


Almost got it, Bulletproof was a term coined by Bulletproof Diesel in AZ as mentioned.

It does include head studs (might as well replace gaskets at this time but not required) and oil cooler replacement. However, it is an EGR replacement cooler not delete as well as a FICIM upgrade and new waterpump to complete a Bulletproof engine.

Anything else isn't correcting the major failures in the 6.0L engine.


No need to do the BPD EGR cooler if you don't have one....

(But you're right in everything you said)

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If the average driver NEEDS to read a pyrometer to own a diesel, then nobody would own any diesels. LOL

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