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Re: Constitutional Carry to fail in the Texas Senate? [Re: steve4102] #16012060 04/20/21
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Originally Posted by steve4102
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I don’t think Texas is as conservative as Texans think it is.


This is true and with the huge influx of aliens Biden is letting across the border it is only matter of time until there are no conservative states.

So why hasn't Abbott called out the NG to close the border?

Seems like pretty standard stuff, but then I'm not a politician.


Because Abbott is a moderate that goes along to get along. He thinks he can run for President in 2024, ha ! He wouldn’t even have to use the NG to close the the border. He could use the Department of Public Safety to shut down every road and highway coming into Texas causing all commerce to stop on both sides.


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Re: Constitutional Carry to fail in the Texas Senate? [Re: steve4102] #16012070 04/20/21
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Originally Posted by steve4102
and the fact that TX is the only State in the Union that makes carrying into a Bar a Felony.



Is this a fair characterization? Serious question. If I carry into a bar in Maryland or New Jersey would it not be a felony?

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Our constitutional open or concealed carry goes into effect july 1.

Bout time....


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Originally Posted by deflave
I don’t think Texas is as conservative as Texans think it is.



shocked

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Re: Constitutional Carry to fail in the Texas Senate? [Re: louiethedrifter] #16012119 04/20/21
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Originally Posted by louiethedrifter
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by louiethedrifter
Originally Posted by deflave
I don’t think Texas is as conservative as Texans think it is.


This is true and with the huge influx of aliens Biden is letting across the border it is only matter of time until there are no conservative states.

So why hasn't Abbott called out the NG to close the border?

Seems like pretty standard stuff, but then I'm not a politician.


Because Abbott is a moderate that goes along to get along. He thinks he can run for President in 2024, ha ! He wouldn’t even have to use the NG to close the the border. He could use the Department of Public Safety to shut down every road and highway coming into Texas causing all commerce to stop on both sides.



And therein lies the rub.

The commercial interests don't want the border closed in that matter.

Shut down commerce like that and campaign donor dollars are no longer going to his campaign.


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Re: Constitutional Carry to fail in the Texas Senate? [Re: RufusG] #16012164 04/20/21
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Originally Posted by RufusG
Originally Posted by steve4102
and the fact that TX is the only State in the Union that makes carrying into a Bar a Felony.



Is this a fair characterization? Serious question. If I carry into a bar in Maryland or New Jersey would it not be a felony?

It would seem not, in Maryland, if you have a permit from a State that has reciprocity and you are not under the influence:

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Any place while under the influence of alcohol or drugs
https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/blog/basic-concealed-carry-laws-maryland/

New Jersey, seems to allow carry in bars:

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Carry in bars/restaurants that serve alcohol? Yes.


https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/ccw_reciprocity_map/nj-gun-laws/#loc_res

Of course, once again you must have a permit from a State they recognize.


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Re: Constitutional Carry to fail in the Texas Senate? [Re: Birdwatcher] #16012200 04/20/21
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Interesting, would not have thought so, thanks!

Re: Constitutional Carry to fail in the Texas Senate? [Re: Birdwatcher] #16012215 04/20/21
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Don't know the penalty, but not supposed to carry in Cali if it's just a bar

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Any place with a primary purpose of dispensing alcoholic beverages for on-site consumption


but it's OK to carry in a restaurant that serves alcohol.

The deal is, there is no allowable BAC, so if one does have a drink one better hope they don't have to shoot someone.


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Re: Constitutional Carry to fail in the Texas Senate? [Re: Birdwatcher] #16012245 04/20/21
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I told you guys 5 days ago this would be the outcome.

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OK, what’s the prognosis for the Texas Senate, anyone know? 18 R - 13 D, is 18 votes enough to carry the day if they can all be had?

Three RINOs will vote with the commie dems, to keep the tyranny going.

"We'll get them next time" will be the forever bark that comes from these traitors.
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...s-constitutional-carry-bill#Post15997764


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The bill passed final reading this morning and is headed to the Senate. Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick (a Republican) is nominally opposed to this, so CALL your Texas state senator and lean on him to go against any roadblocks from the Lt. Gov.

If you'll remember, that commie fake RINO Patrick (He changed his last name and has filed BK before), when he was a Senator, he wanted to have a law passed that allowed members of the legislature to be able to carry where CHL holders could not.

Laws for me, and not for you. That right there proves he is a fake conservative commie little biatch.
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Re: Constitutional Carry to fail in the Texas Senate? [Re: kaywoodie] #16012256 04/20/21
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Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Originally Posted by deflave
I don’t think Texas is as conservative as Texans think it is.


Thank you!!! Most are in denial!

Texas will go the way of California and Arizona. The paperbag coloreds are out producing on a 9:1 ratio


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Dan Patrick has never been a friend of the Second Amendment. After the first "mass shooting" he came out for gun control because "the gun was not legal because it was put together by the individual and couldn't be traced" or something equally as lame. He is from Pennsylvania and has never been comfortable with people owning firearms. He sings a good tune but he is a skunk of the first water. Abbott is in the same boat with him as he governs by whichever way he thinks the political wind blows.

Re: Constitutional Carry to fail in the Texas Senate? [Re: Chisos] #16012292 04/20/21
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Originally Posted by Chisos
Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Yup and just wait to see who our next gov will be!!!!!

Remember this is the same state that elected that ogre Ann Richards!


Ann was semi palatable as gov until Slick Willy started running for pres, IIRC. Then she went total Dimocrat zombie, which really was a good thing if you look at it. She couldn't ever keep her mouth shut and when asked about passing concealed carry laws after the Killeen shooting, she told the press Texans were too stupid to carry guns. That was what really cost her the election as people were really pissed about the existing handgun laws and what happened at Luby's . Of course, if Claytie had kept his stupid mouth shut when talking to the liberal press, we might not have had Anne for guv.


The Austin news media knew that Ann Richards was a big doper and boozer going back to the 1960's and her hippy shenanigans around Austin. They deliberately withheld that from The People and snickered about it after she was elected.


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Ann quit alcohol......'cept mornin', noon and night.


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Re: Constitutional Carry to fail in the Texas Senate? [Re: kaywoodie] #16012309 04/20/21
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Originally Posted by kaywoodie
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Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Yup and just wait to see who our next gov will be!!!!!


Matthew McConaughey?


You watch! Stupid phuquers will elect him! Bank on it.

I wouldn't bet against that. People are stupid enough to do it.


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Re: Constitutional Carry to fail in the Texas Senate? [Re: pete53] #16012571 04/20/21
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and it does seem weird that all the way down from Minnesota i can carry concealed legally in every state tell i get to Texas , then i am no longer legal to carry concealed in Texas. that`s just foolish !


Way I read the law it is the other way around - Minnesota passed a law that said they would not recognize Texas or Missouri carry license. May be wrong but looks like that became law in Minnesota on August 1, 2015???

Re: Constitutional Carry to fail in the Texas Senate? [Re: deflave] #16012578 04/20/21
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Originally Posted by deflave
I don’t think Texas is as conservative as Texans think it is.



Don't get used to me saying it but you may be right - except I suspect it is more Transplanted Texans who are driving this than "home grown Texans".

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Originally Posted by RL
Originally Posted by deflave
I don’t think Texas is as conservative as Texans think it is.



Don't get used to me saying it but you may be right - except I suspect it is more Transplanted Texans who are driving this than "home grown Texans".


Home grown Texans?

You mean like the Comanche and Chiricahua?


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Re: Constitutional Carry to fail in the Texas Senate? [Re: kaywoodie] #16012593 04/20/21
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Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Originally Posted by kaywoodie
Yup and just wait to see who our next gov will be!!!!!


Matthew McConaughey?


You watch! Stupid phuquers will elect him! Bank on it.

Early poll have him up double digits over Abbott.

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Originally Posted by RL
Originally Posted by deflave
I don’t think Texas is as conservative as Texans think it is.



Don't get used to me saying it but you may be right - except I suspect it is more Transplanted Texans who are driving this than "home grown Texans".


Faux Texans.


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