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Canada approved this vaccine a month or so back. In addition to the deadly clotting issues that have been attributed to this poison, there have been other issues as well, like the 62 million doses that were 'contaminated' and now this. Apparently our government is still planning on sending this stuff out to be injected like they did with AstraZeneca, even though other countries banned it altogether! Amazing that Canadians will stand for it, let alone take it. Its like they are willing to inject themselves with anything, and frankly its embarrassing that Canada is kind of a 'dumping ground' taking anything they can get. Almost like some poor third world country.

An interesting side note is that J&J quietly ask another company to look into the clotting issues. They know it is happening.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/v...u-uVUR2XlAgUZIR6hYpIV9ZGxc8ZkowmPjt6j2ag

This one and the AZ are not approved for use in the country that developed them..... think of that

plus all the international flights that keep arriving on a daily basis from countries where the Covid numbers are climbing out of control.
And we are not supposed to travel.
Such bull [bleep] isn't it..

Well said. I thought our borders were closed. Closed to some open to others apparently.

eric123, where are the inbound flights originating? Not being smart, only curious.

Just read they are coming from India.

Thanks saskfox, appreciate the info. Yet we can't travel from Brandon to Weyburn to see the family because we might infect someone. Marvellous!

I don't know if the J&J vaccine is actually problematical or not, but are you seriously citing a Newsmax story as your source?

You might just as well say that the old guy in the forest who lives in a hollow tree says it's true, so it must be so.

Those "clots" in question are strange to say the least. They are not "blood clots" like we generally think of. They are a platelet clot, a "white clot" by description. Seems there is an antibody reaction against platelets. Some platelets disappear, other are coated with antibodies, forming these "soft, white clots", sometimes found in the brain. It is reportedly a rare occurrence, but I guess it's 100% when it happens to you or your loved one.

It's strange that the J&J vaccine would be causing more issues than the newer class of messenger RNA vaccines. J&J is one of the more conventional vaccines, more of the old style of vaccine manufacture.

This whole COVID thing is weird. The pneumonia that COVID victims die of is not histologically what one would expect to see from a viral pneumonia, but from an inflammatory pneumonia. It's from the cytokine storm that takes these folks out. It's the inflammatory, antibody stuff that does the damage.

With similar vaccines for other viral diseases, such as Dengue Fever that was rampant in Cuba, the concern about Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE) has been a concern. Google that one for an explanation. Seems the vaccine sets up the victim for a more severe disease, especially from a variant. They say this has not happened with the COVID vaccines, but has been a concern.

DF

I thought all you northerners got a the Moderna early in the game ?

With the AZ, your odds are one in 1.3 million. I buy the odd 649 with about the same odds and I haven't won yet . One guy pointed out if the lottery odds were the same as dying of COVID, he would e buying tickets like crazy. . I laughed at that.

INDIA of all places !

Thanks saskfox, appreciate the info. Yet we can't travel from Brandon to Weyburn to see the family because we might infect someone. Marvellous!

The stats for clotting are like 1 in a million for the J&J shot. The chances of women getting a blood clot from being on the pill are like 1 in 3000. So give me a break. The Canadian government has managed this so poorly it's pathetic. But hey, don't do anything and continue to keep the boarders closed. People aren't hurting from a closed economy and the virus is a hoax.

LOL, hypocrisy at the highest level....and our businesses are failing.

Kalifornians should not give advice to those from other countries. Get your communists in check, the evil entertainment industries in check and the state finances solvent then give everyone advice. But Be Well Buzie, RustyZipper.

Yes I seriously am. I double check every story that catches my interest if I can, and have found newsmax and oann to be two of the most accurate. Sounds like you distrust them? Why? Examples ?

Normally I’d agree with you but since our Covid levels are so low someone up north should be paying attention to what we have done. The way it’s been managed in Canada is so pathetic. Canada is about to have another cancelled tourism season this summer but you all have fun staying at home while complaining about the state I live in.

Stay safe

Its probably nothing .......J&J has had their azz sued off before, but won't/can't get sued this time.

Yep, big pharma got a blank govt check and a free pass...

We are the guinea pigs in this study.

DF

Exactly. None of the vaccines have been FDA approved specifically for the normal vaccination safety issues. They have emergency approval only. From what I understand if there was an effective prophylactic available the emergency approval would / could be lifted. That makes me wonder if that has something to do with the censoring issues around ivermectin and HQ. One thing is certain, the general public is not aware that these vaccines have emergency approval only and didnt go through all the safety trials that other vaccines have. In reality they are not even vaccines, but thats another subject.

I am sure that Newsmax is as truthful and accurate as the former president.

LOL, just as I thought.

I took the J&J shot two months ago. Zero issues, not even a sore shoulder. Maybe there will be long term issues, who knows. But the small number of blood clots in the multi million shots given, is not keeping me awake at night. If you choose to worry and fret for me, thanks.

My grandparents knew people who had died of Typhus and Cholera and Tetnus—they had seen people scared by Small Pox. My parents knew people who died of Whopping Cough and Diphtheria. I knew kids who had been crippled by Polio and my best friend died of the Flu in 1957 before I had ever heard of the word Pandemic.

I would bet money that a bunch of people had bad reactions to the vaccines for all those diseases.

The whole country of Canada is shut down because a bunch of people are afraid of needle—what a bunch of puzzies

I got the J&J also. No problems. As for the blood clots they have only been found in female recipients. So far there is no explanation.