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Originally Posted by renegade50
I could get about 1500 rds outta a maintained 60 firing sustained 100 a min for 10 mins with a barrel change before one would start chugging.




Kinda can guess what chugging is.
What causes it, and what's fixing to go wrong?


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When I was 14 in 1965 a gov inspector where my dad worked [my father designed guns and vehicles for the military] borrowed from work, a belt fed machine gun that said "Colt" on the side.

With the adults and other teen agers, I shot up an old model A ford and a toilet under the power lines. Every 5th round was a tracer.

50 years later I realized that was an M60.


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Why didn’t the US just adopt the MG 34/42?


Because it was German Nazi.


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Have wanted one ever since watching Rambo shoot one from the hip in First Blood grin

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Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by renegade50


Happiness is a warm MG...
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Maybe, but it sure as fugg ain't doing gun drills every hundred yards on a gravel road.

Hearing "gun up" and slamming down that stupid tripod until your knees and elbows were raw is NOT happiness.

But, I guess those were cold MGs......

Lol!!.
What were you guys doing to get messed with like that doing crew drills .
Who fugged up in the sqd???
BTDT .

Ever do the 4 up and over with a 60 or ride a harley with one.

Lol!! Good times.


Several times in my past.
I would pcs somewhere and inherit a wpn sqd.
That the previous WSL basically didnt do schit with.
I E basic crew drills.

Basic offensive and defensive employment.

Lead gun assault side
Trail gun Loa side.

Rates of fire
Guns talikng to each other.
Fughing range card......



Just basic schit that the crews werent taught.
Cant blame the joes .
They are only as good as their sqd ldr.

Tactics, employment, level 20 and 30 maintenance schitt you can do outside of deadlining your gun.
How to keep your schit running.


Several times in units I got tasked to train other platoons WSL,s
Wasnt because they was not smart.
But maybe like a young line squad leader moving up to wpns sqd
Constantly was OIC on Battalion and Bde 60, 249 , 240 Javelin gunnery ranges.
Actually had talks with company commanders, 1sg,s, bn cmdrs, bn csm,s.
I can run all the Mg and AT ranges and show others how to run em over time shadowing em, just task others to run m4 , m203, m9 , grenade ranges ect ect ect.

At one point in 327th.
I was a E6 WSL and my PSG SFC Droesch were literally the only 2 range Qualified Nco,s in the Battalion for a period of 6 months.
Due to Billy Boys cutbacks on everything.
Had plenty of NCO,s in Battalion waiting to get certified.
But Billy cut the funding for the civilian contract instructors.
You wanna talk about getting fughing tasked out
Fughing running the Battalions ranges.
Had ta be done.

I didnt approach it like a dick.

Approached it like schitt needs to be learned and done correctly not half azzed.

I had some schitt hot wpn sqds.
You can tell when your soldiers wanta suck up knowledge and be good at their jobs.
Never forget some of those soldiers .
make em my line safeties on ranges.
No one in chain of commands ever fugged with me or questioned what I was doing on ranges.

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Korea, 1963. Spent a day in the classroom and a day of familiarization firing.

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Originally Posted by rickt300
Anybody here ever lug one around?

Yes I have had the pleasure of hauling one around. The Hog is one heavy ass gun after a 17 mile road march!


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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Originally Posted by renegade50
I could get about 1500 rds outta a maintained 60 firing sustained 100 a min for 10 mins with a barrel change before one would start chugging.




Kinda can guess what chugging is.
What causes it, and what's fixing to go wrong?

Gas system isuue mostly.
Carbon, bullet jacket shavings , heat, loose gas plugs
Slow down rate of fire.
Wpn fixing to puke on ya unless you can pull the piston.
Clean it up
Punch out gas tube with the brush.
And get that piston moving freely to hear it click back and forth in the tube tilting it back and forth with the bolt assembly locked back.

Worst thing to do is oil a 60 gas system heavy.
Very very light finger print of oil at the most.
They gave us graphite during desert storm.
Mostly for the bolt and feed tray and feed pawl system
Worthless.....

Light clp up top .
Dryish in the gas...

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Originally Posted by MPat70
Originally Posted by rickt300
Anybody here ever lug one around?

Yes I have had the pleasure of hauling one around. The Hog is one heavy ass gun after a 17 mile road march!

Lol!!!!

Homie bought himself a new of tanker boots in germany
The ones with the wrap around leather strap.
BC authorizerd em for wear.
We was mech D co 1/ 16th


Anyways homie did a 12 miler with his newly assigned pig.
Would not give it up when people tried to spell him.


My feet were hamburger...

Thank god it was on a friday.


Young , dumb , trying to prove I was tough.
Dont show wealness.
New e4 just came in unit from carson .
Asked to be a 60 gunner after having been a AG at Carson.
Did my time on the 60.
Got lateral promoted to Corporal and made a fire team ldr.
Got a new A2.
Kept moving up .
Rest is history.


Dont wear new tanker boots on a 12 miler is the morale of the story....
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Humped the M60 for two years, enough to appreciate it's strengths and weaknesses. Easy enough to carry, gas system a little fussy, not suitable for sustained fire role, feed cover redesign on the Mk3 fixed a flaw. Final shoot of them before destruction managed to get the barrel red then white hot, I'd swear you could see the bullet go down the barrel.

Got to put a few belts downrange with an MG3 - now there is a nice gun, particularly at 1100rpm.

Preferred the FN MAG (aka MAG58, M240, L7A1) once it got the handguard under the gas system. Complete prick of a thing for dismounted use before then, but so reliable and definitely superior to the M60.

Never took to the FN MINIMI (aka M249) and only qualified on it just before I left. Appeared to be somewhat over engineered, and overweight, but capable and dependable in service.

Would like to handle and use a Maximi, see how it stacks up against the older versions.

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Originally Posted by renegade50
Any of ya remember being an AR with a A1, clip on bipod , and a azzload of extra mags.
Fugging running rattling gypsy wagon...
Mags strewn all over ya. Cargo pockets full of em.

Gawddamm..
🥴🥴🥴😆😆😆😆


E1 at carson late 83 early 84.
All the newb dismounts got that schitt.
Bout 5 months for me.
Then 203 gunner then 60 AG

JFC.... Fuuging being an AR sucked..


Sally from gun smoke had less schitt....
🥴🥴🥴😂😂😂😂


Called that firepower superiority in the 60's..

Thanks for your service!

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Used one for a while in my misspent youth. Wasn’t too bad to carry, and if maintained well and correctly, it always worked. If not, well... still, it was a reassuring sound when it was running well. Only MG I ever used that needed parts safety wired on.

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That thing is so fugging ugly it's beautiful.


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Thanks for serving guys. This one was worth the read.
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And as R50 politely pointed out billy clinton was and is a twatwaffle.


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Originally Posted by renegade50

Lol!!.
What were you guys doing to get messed with like that doing crew drills .
Who fugged up in the sqd???
BTDT .




There may have been alcohol involved.

Allegedly.

The best part was, while I was "qualified" on the 60, at the time I was a pogue, getting ready to deploy on a cruise with 1/8 as a pay clerk.

As a pogue, being prior infantry with a CAR was, at times, awesome.
Other times, not so much.......

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Well now we all know how ren 50 got his scrounging and scalping skills and why a guy needs them. Great thread. Mb


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"And I had excellent leaders that I grew up as a joe under.
Learned right and wrong.
Hard right before the easy wrong is the way to roll."

The best way to grow up.


"I accomplished keeping soldiers I seen as brothers alive the best I could at times and passed on knowledge that was passed onto to me and developed young wolves to be leaders just like what was done for me."

If I knew nothing of you but that, well that is enough to respect the f*ck out of you.

Thank you


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Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by renegade50

Lol!!.
What were you guys doing to get messed with like that doing crew drills .
Who fugged up in the sqd???
BTDT .




There may have been alcohol involved.

Allegedly.

The best part was, while I was "qualified" on the 60, at the time I was a pogue, getting ready to deploy on a cruise with 1/8 as a pay clerk.

As a pogue, being prior infantry with a CAR was, at times, awesome.
Other times, not so much.......



LOL!!!
Monday????

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Originally Posted by BOBBALEE

And as R50 politely pointed out billy clinton was and is a twatwaffle.


I remember 94 and 95 in Bragg. We humped to the training areas and yelled "Bang!" as there was no fuel nor ammo.


BRAC (Base Realignment and Closure) closed down Ord and the 7th went away. I was PCSed to Bragg but the Army would not move my wife. So I became a geographic bachelor for two years. The only time saw her in that time frame was when I flew home to bury my mother. Clinton had shut down so many careers that the writing was on the wall. I got out in 95 thinking I could get back in after brief interlude in the Reserves. Got home to find the wife had left and the Army had shut the door.

Oh well. Life is good.


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