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No luck for me on a desert bighorn tag.
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El zippo for all 4 in my family. Im from CO, 55, and have been applying since the early 90s (when i could finally afford to put the $ up front) and still cant get a license in my own state. Speechless...
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Grew up in CO. Drew the sheep tag in 82 and filled it. Drew the goat tag in 2001. Filled it. I was luckier than a lot but the demand for tags were a lot less back then. When I got the sheep they were a "once in a lifetime" animal. I understand that has changed. The tag in CO that I always struck out on was moose.
You get out of life what you are willing to accept. If you ain't happy, do something about it!
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I was luckier than a lot but the demand for tags were a lot less back then. When I got the sheep they were a "once in a lifetime" animal. I understand that has changed. The tag in CO that I always struck out on was moose.
Drew an archery sheep tag in 91. Didn't kill a ram. Drew again in 93 (with 1 PP!). Found a HUGE ram while scouting and spent the entire season chasing that mutha around the Sangre de Cristo's......... Didn't kill him either. Knowing what I know now, I shoulda' just drew a rifle tag and be done with it........
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Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively... Having said that, MAGA.
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Last 6 years of stats:
2015 Number of 1st choice apps 11,186 number of ram tags 204 number of rams killed 110 11,186 apps divided by 204 tags = 55 years to get a tag for all 2016 Number of 1st choice apps 11,672 number of ram tags 229 number of rams killed 127 11,672 apps divided by 229 tags = 51 years to get a tag for all 2017 Number of 1st choice apps 12,708 number of ram tags 238 number of rams killed 137 12,708 apps divided by 238 tags = 53 years to get a tag for all 2018 Number of 1st choice apps 23,637 number of ram tags 244 number of rams killed 244 23,637 divided by 244 tags = 97 years to get a tag for all 2019 Number of 1st choice apps 16,845 number of ram tags 244 number of rams killed 244(odd they match 2018) 16,845 divided by 244 = 69 years 2020 Number of 1st choice apps 18,308 number of ram tags 230 number of rams killed 148 18,308 divided by 230 = 80 years to get a tag for all
Not looking good for thinking if you apply for 20 years that you have a smoking good chance for a tag. But thanks for the application fees along the way.
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20 years and zilch. It really is ridiculous at this point...
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Chances are better playing the Lotto. If you win, you could buy one of those Governors Tags or auction tags!
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In 2020, the draw odds for 1st choice applicants were approx 1.25 percent. Then those successful 1.25 percent applicants went on to have a 64% success rate on the hunt. WIth the current numbers of applicants, it makes great sense to save and invest for a Dall sheep hunt vs donating that kind of money with those kinds of odds.
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I honestly don't think premium tags should be available to nonresidents any longer. Goat, sheep, moose and antelope are already so hard to draw as a resident... kind of sucks to live here and compete with the whole world for a chance to hunt your own backyard
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Nothing for me either, they were certainly happy to take my $100 to buy preference points in my own state though. Thinking I'm done doing that, I don't think weighted points are worth what they cost in the grand scheme. Colorado needs to go to a better system. Would be cool to see something like Idahos.
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Yep, I never bought any once they started charging. Did shoot a sheep in 2000 and a goat in 2010. If I hadn't of done that would have just gone to Kodiak for a goat and probably Yukon for a Dall. They keep getting windfalls from Pittman Robertson funds but still need more money. Its odd. Lots of folks willing to pay for terrible odds, so let them.
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I'm in the same boat as the rest of you, no tags for me or my son. I figure someone has to draw those tags, so might as well give it a shot, even if the odds are terrible. As a resident, it is still going to be a cheaper hunt than going out of state on an outfitted hunt, but the problem is drawing a tag before you're too old to go hunting anymore. My Dad, who is 81 now, gave up putting in a few years ago. He's not able to hunt anymore, but when he stopped he had 20 weighted points. That's a long damn time to wait for a tag.
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Draw recap is out now. I'll give a warning out to those with a lot of weighted points...it'll make you sick.
No task is half-a$$ed more than the spelling of Creedmoor...
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That's my problem, by the time I draw I'll be too old to hunt sheep.
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20760 applications, 266 tags. If no new applicants start applying, it will take 78 years for everyone to get a tag. LOL. I'll pass.
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Welcome to the new age of sheep hunting. And yes, lots of us will apply for the rest of our lives, including me, and never get a sheep tag in any state....
I've accepted it but it'll be my dream still....
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I honestly don't think premium tags should be available to nonresidents any longer. Goat, sheep, moose and antelope are already so hard to draw as a resident... kind of sucks to live here and compete with the whole world for a chance to hunt your own backyard Do non-residents have the same draw odds as residents? I believe Idaho limits non-residents to 10% of the total tags available. I may be wrong though.
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There are only certain units that have NR tags. NR can only apply in those units.
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20760 applications, 266 tags. If no new applicants start applying, it will take 78 years for everyone to get a tag. LOL. I'll pass. I killed a bighorn ram & mtn goat. Ram was in 1998, he was a 7/8 curl. Mtn Goat was a couple years later---nice billy. Since then I've been applying for desert bighorn with no luck. But for $7 application fee, I'll play-----You have to be in the game to win. Heck I play powerball when it gets over $200 million.
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I killed a 8 year old ram with a bow in 2000 and on a solo goat hunt killed a nanny on a nanny tag in 2010. My odds at time on the archery tag were 1 in 6. I don't play powerball regardless of what amount it is. Odds get worse each year.
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