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In reading some history about the occult that Hitler aspired to there was a universal belief among them that whoever possessed the Spear of Destiny or the spear the Roman soldier used to stab Christ with would rule the world. That very spear was in a museum in Poland. What country did he attack first? Poland. Just goes to show how mankind can be deceived. Hitler certainly was.
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The Roman Catholic Church has yet to open their books to the Israelis as requested for that period of time (WW2). Reckon they’re tryin’ to protect Pope Pius XII’s image...? He never denounced the Holocaust publicly, and is now a candidate for canonization. I believe it’s more like being about money, jewelry, art, etc. that supposedly and is suspected to have been taken from the Jews in Germany of that era.
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I believe it’s more like being about money, jewelry, art, etc. that supposedly and is suspected to have been taken from the Jews in Germany of that era. I too have had evicted tenants come back months later asking for their stuff back so I know how the Church feels.
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In reading some history about the occult that Hitler aspired to there was a universal belief among them that whoever possessed the Spear of Destiny or the spear the Roman soldier used to stab Christ with would rule the world. That very spear was in a museum in Poland. What country did he attack first? Poland. Just goes to show how mankind can be deceived. Hitler certainly was. They had all kinds of talismen that they wsnted for power. They had rituals and made decisions based on astrology. They looted and had an unsatisfied lust for power. I asked a Satanist lawyer why he was a Satanist. What's your motivation? What do you want out of this weird religion? He summed it up that it comes down to a lust for power.
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I believe it’s more like being about money, jewelry, art, etc. that supposedly and is suspected to have been taken from the Jews in Germany of that era. So possibly the Roman Catholic Church willingly tolerated or flat-out ignored the Nazi’s crimes against humanity in order to benefit financially from money, art, jewelry, and other valuable belongings taken from murdered Jews and others...? shocker
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I had mistakenly thought Hitler and the Nazis embraced Christianity.
I just watched video of Chancellor Dr Alfred Rosenberg demanding the abolition of Catholic and Protestant churches in Germany in 1938.
Followed by German Church Regulations: Article XXX
"The Christian Cross is to be removed from all churches and cathedrals, and is to be replaced by the immortal symbol of Germany, the Swastika"
Followed by arrest and execution of hundreds of religious leaders of all denominations across Germany. I guess Hitler's ego could not compete with anybody's God.
Neo-Nazis certainly like to invoke the name of God! If you ever want to know about one of the greatest German heroes of WW2, read "Hanged On a Twisted Cross", a biography about a pastor named Detreich Bonhoffer. Arrested, imprisoned and finally executed by the Nazis for openly defying Hitler.
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I don't think one could use both terms in the same sentience. Jews do it all the time.
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Wow. This is way too deep for Friday night cocktail hour(s)! 
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I believe it’s more like being about money, jewelry, art, etc. that supposedly and is suspected to have been taken from the Jews in Germany of that era. So the Roman Catholic Church willingly tolerated or flat-out ignored the Nazi’s crimes against humanity in order to benefit financially from money, art, jewelry, and other valuable belongings taken from murdered Jews and others...? shocker Heh ! Good one. The Jews couldn’t spirit themselves much less their hard assets out of the country . These were ‘supposedly ‘ entrusted to the safe keeping of the Roman Catholic Church until they could later be reclaimed. The Roman Catholic Church was pretty much the soul surviving Chr*stian Church entity to remain somewhat whole in Germany and other occupied countries during those turbulent years. When the Jews were relocated to camps, etc. and failed to return to collect those entrusted hard assets,,,,,,the present day Israelis want to have a look and an accounting of the records that were kept.
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Ive read much into the subject and the truth is that the nazis were all over the map in regards to the Christian faith. They used it when it was advantageous but they always had a strong distaste for the power of the Catholic church over Catholics in both Germany, allied countries and conquered lands. The authority was dangerous to them as it superseded their own authority...at least amongst the Catholics.
There are documented cases of German senior officers being questioned on their faith and allegiance, passed up for promotion etc...speaking of the Catholics here
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I believe it’s more like being about money, jewelry, art, etc. that supposedly and is suspected to have been taken from the Jews in Germany of that era. So the Roman Catholic Church willingly tolerated or flat-out ignored the Nazi’s crimes against humanity in order to benefit financially from money, art, jewelry, and other valuable belongings taken from murdered Jews and others...? shocker Heh ! Good one. The Jews couldn’t spirit themselves much less their hard assets out of the country . These were ‘supposedly ‘ entrusted to the safe keeping of the Roman Catholic Church until they could later be reclaimed. The Roman Catholic Church was pretty much the soul surviving Chr*stian Church entity to remain somewhat whole in Germany and other occupied countries during those turbulent years. When the Jews were relocated to camps, etc. and failed to return to collect those entrusted hard assets,,,,,,the present day Israelis want to have a look and an accounting of the records that were kept. Just so we're clear, getting out and starting over wasn't what they were after. Going back to claim abandoned property, that changed hands during a literal world war is what drives the Elly Weasel society? Does that apply to farms, houses, etc. of everyone else affected by the belligerents? I don't think the jews have a monopoly on that.........
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Did anyone watch either of the documentaries yet?
It sounds like you all would enjoy them both.
One's on Himler and the other is on Hitler. There's two others as well.
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I believe it’s more like being about money, jewelry, art, etc. that supposedly and is suspected to have been taken from the Jews in Germany of that era. So the Roman Catholic Church willingly tolerated or flat-out ignored the Nazi’s crimes against humanity in order to benefit financially from money, art, jewelry, and other valuable belongings taken from murdered Jews and others...? shocker Heh ! Good one. The Jews couldn’t spirit themselves much less their hard assets out of the country . These were ‘supposedly ‘ entrusted to the safe keeping of the Roman Catholic Church until they could later be reclaimed. The Roman Catholic Church was pretty much the soul surviving Chr*stian Church entity to remain somewhat whole in Germany and other occupied countries during those turbulent years. When the Jews were relocated to camps, etc. and failed to return to collect those entrusted hard assets,,,,,,the present day Israelis want to have a look and an accounting of the records that were kept. Just so we're clear, getting out and starting over wasn't what they were after. Going back to claim abandoned property, that changed hands during a literal world war is what drives the Elly Weasel society? Does that apply to farms, houses, etc. of everyone else affected by the belligerents? I don't think the jews have a monopoly on that......... Okay.
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I believe it’s more like being about money, jewelry, art, etc. that supposedly and is suspected to have been taken from the Jews in Germany of that era. So the Roman Catholic Church willingly tolerated or flat-out ignored the Nazi’s crimes against humanity in order to benefit financially from money, art, jewelry, and other valuable belongings taken from murdered Jews and others...? shocker Heh ! Good one. The Jews couldn’t spirit themselves much less their hard assets out of the country . These were ‘supposedly ‘ entrusted to the safe keeping of the Roman Catholic Church until they could later be reclaimed. The Roman Catholic Church was pretty much the soul surviving Chr*stian Church entity to remain somewhat whole in Germany and other occupied countries during those turbulent years. When the Jews were relocated to camps, etc. and failed to return to collect those entrusted hard assets,,,,,,the present day Israelis want to have a look and an accounting of the records that were kept. Go back. Go Back. Aliyah to Israel Benefits...
Epstein didn't kill himself.
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I believe it’s more like being about money, jewelry, art, etc. that supposedly and is suspected to have been taken from the Jews in Germany of that era. So the Roman Catholic Church willingly tolerated or flat-out ignored the Nazi’s crimes against humanity in order to benefit financially from money, art, jewelry, and other valuable belongings taken from murdered Jews and others...? shocker Heh ! Good one. The Jews couldn’t spirit themselves much less their hard assets out of the country . These were ‘supposedly ‘ entrusted to the safe keeping of the Roman Catholic Church until they could later be reclaimed. The Roman Catholic Church was pretty much the soul surviving Chr*stian Church entity to remain somewhat whole in Germany and other occupied countries during those turbulent years. When the Jews were relocated to camps, etc. and failed to return to collect those entrusted hard assets,,,,,,the present day Israelis want to have a look and an accounting of the records that were kept. Just so we're clear, getting out and starting over wasn't what they were after. Going back to claim abandoned property, that changed hands during a literal world war is what drives the Elly Weasel society? Does that apply to farms, houses, etc. of everyone else affected by the belligerents? I don't think the jews have a monopoly on that......... Okay. Not being a prick, I'm serious. I have enough of Abrahams wayward wanderers in my background I'd not have promoted in the Nazi party.  I don't do victimhood well. Life is what you can carve from it. Perpetuating the perception of "justice" when all they're after is abandoned property seems to fit a stereotype eh? IMHO But what do I know, I'm only an American.
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A great read with incredible insight into this is Metaxas’s biography of Dietrich Bonhoeffer, “Bonhoeffer: Pastor, Prophet, Martyr, Spy.”
The Nazis basically told the Lutheran church leadership that if they wanted to be taken care of they would toe the line. A lot did and solid Christians like Bonhoeffer chose to remain true to their beliefs. The Lutheran church went through a split into 2 factions: basically the govt approved, wishy washy woke church and the traditional underground church. Eventually Bonhoeffer got a job in German intelligence and became involved in the Valkyrie plot. If you haven’t read it get it.
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I believe it’s more like being about money, jewelry, art, etc. that supposedly and is suspected to have been taken from the Jews in Germany of that era. So the Roman Catholic Church willingly tolerated or flat-out ignored the Nazi’s crimes against humanity in order to benefit financially from money, art, jewelry, and other valuable belongings taken from murdered Jews and others...? shocker Heh ! Good one. The Jews couldn’t spirit themselves much less their hard assets out of the country . These were ‘supposedly ‘ entrusted to the safe keeping of the Roman Catholic Church until they could later be reclaimed. The Roman Catholic Church was pretty much the soul surviving Chr*stian Church entity to remain somewhat whole in Germany and other occupied countries during those turbulent years. When the Jews were relocated to camps, etc. and failed to return to collect those entrusted hard assets,,,,,,the present day Israelis want to have a look and an accounting of the records that were kept. Just so we're clear, getting out and starting over wasn't what they were after. Going back to claim abandoned property, that changed hands during a literal world war is what drives the Elly Weasel society? Does that apply to farms, houses, etc. of everyone else affected by the belligerents? I don't think the jews have a monopoly on that......... Okay. Not being a prick, I'm serious. I have enough of Abrahams wayward wanderers in my background I'd not have promoted in the Nazi party. I don't do victimhood well. Life is what you can carve from it. Perpetuating the perception of "justice" when all they're after is abandoned property seems to fit a stereotype eh? IMHO But what do I know, I'm only an American. American myself. Some would posit that theft is theft. Victimhood can often accompany things like that. Then there’s living family members of those who had their entrusted possessions stolen from to be considered.
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It just goes to show how imagination and fantasy can shape reality and effect the lives of countless people and many generations.
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American myself.
Some would posit that theft is theft. Victimhood can often accompany things like that. Then there’s living family members of those who had their entrusted possessions stolen from to be considered.
So the same holds true for everyone who lost a farm or house as well? Should we fund assassin squads and lawyers to get back their lost familial property as well? Are are the jews unique in that they get back their shidt but nobody else does? How many generations does this "legit" victimhood carry on for?
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For the Jews? Apparently forever...its their ace in the hole. The blood spilled in their liberation apparently wasn't enough...nor was stealing them an entire country in the middle east.
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