I guess her family should just be happy they didn't shoot her.
"Is the blood yours or hers?". Asks ocifer Dunkin.
"Yeah, it's her blood." Replies ocifer Friendly
You could see ocifer Friendly was really getting into the enjoyment of the adrenaline rush as he leveraged her elbow repeatedly up toward her head while cuffed. He probably"feared for his life."
No fire, no discipline of ocifer friendly.....just an ol pat on the back and probably some beers with the guys before driving back to shelas cat house.
PS If you guys didn't see this video, note the ending.
Just for the record she walked out with $13.00 worth of stuff. She was then confronted by an employee and he acted like a prick. She tried paying after this but he wouldn't let her. Then the cavalry shows up to set her straight. Then these "public servants" laugh about hurting her. Some of you people are either stupid or sick if you think she deserved this. When the civil war breaks out I hope we get to hear you talk like this.
I haven’t kept up on all of it. There’s no excuse for laughing after the facts came out. As far as offering to pay after concealing with attempt to steal that is a crime, if it weren’t all shoplifters would attempt to steal and then offer to pay if caught. Was she a model citizen grandmother with dementia as portrayed by the msm or a career shoplifter with moderate dementia? IDK. I do know that nobody would ever get arrested if police let everyone claiming a cognitive problem just walk away.
She was called into police. They identified her asked her to stop and talk to them. She didn’t so they put her in cuffs and didn’t get nuts with brutality doing it IMO.
Okay, so a lady that isn't in her right mind needs to be treated the same as a criminal. I get it now. I can promise you that walmart has video if her is she has been a shoplifter on a regular basis. They also have people inside the store watching. The fact that they haven't released anything like that about her tells me this was most likely not a regular thing for her. Sometimes you post some decent thoughts on here but what you're going on about here is not the case.
In retrospect no. Do the police responding have all of the backstory? They identified the correct person. She continued to not comply and walk away. In an ideal world they’d have all day to surround her, cut off her path home, call in a mental health expert and so on. In real life they deal with these calls all day and well over 9 out of 10 are someone not suffering from dementia and simply choosing to not listen. For that reason I cut the police some slack. If they spent all day with literally everyone and there family claiming mental or cognitive problems police would literally get nothing done.
The ones around here spend most of their day sittin on their fat asses in their cruisers suckin down donuts.
He should be hanged from a lamp pole as a warning to his buddies
If her kin decided to administer some old fashioned country justice I wouldn't vote to convict if I were on their jury.
Originally Posted by MidBore338
Nor would I
I was thinking similar.
I hope she has family, big, ugly, mean, Biker mean, that takes the time to visit Officer Friendly and beat the living schit out of him and then some. Twice.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
Thank God the cops in Caldwell Id are not so vicious.
My wife's Mom was in an Alzheimers ward for about five years before she passed. But she was cunning enough to escape several times. She would hang out near the door and dash out as someone entered. Until we moved her to a facility with a "sally port".
One time she found a piece of sharp steel lying along the road and used it to fend off her caregivers as they tried to coax her back to the facility. Another time it was a fist sized river rock.
As facility staff are not allowed to "man handle" a patient, nor can they physically force a patient back into the facility, they had to call City Police each time.
Wonder of wonders, the cops managed to get this five foot six 110 lb 79 year old woman back under lock and key, not only without broken bones, but also with no visible bruising.
From what I have seen, some up close and personal, cops here in SW Idaho, especially small town cops are a completely different critter than in the larger metro areas
Did you catch the part where they are debating whether or not to charge her for a felony too? How about when the female cop is saying, "this is my favorite part" while reviewing the videos? Or how they are debating if this will get reviewed by internal affairs for use of force and decide it will be, but then when the family lawyer is bringing it to their attention, the police department is like, Golly Gee, this is the first time we heard anything about it.
Concealing property in the store in and of itself is a crime. The store called police. If police spent hours talking to people that want to talk in circles or simply walk away without complying to lawful commands (which they were she concealed property until confronted by store personnel and the store chose to call police). Police would spend all day talking in circles to people who aren’t going to comply, claim they aren’t guilty and want to argue. Police are on timelines and expect to have lawful basic orders followed. If she had looked confused I’d have more compassion. It’s unfortunate but she looked like a run of the mill shoplifting that didn’t want to stop and deal with the police. Police don’t have all day for that.
What exactly is it you think cops have to do all day that they don't have time to safely handle an infirm old woman? This report literally shows they have nothing better to do than hang out laughing at video of themselves in little old lady abuse porn. You're paying for this. And you pay for settlements every time they go too far getting their kicks.
Does it not occur to you that just by poor luck you could lose your senses and end up in the same he'll as that poor lady? They'll do it to her. They'll do it to you. They'll even do it to each other. Cops treat US citizens worse than we treat prisoners of war.
Asking for the job to be done without torture isn't much. And we do pay for it.
Living in a world of G17s and 700s, wishing for P7s and 202s
More POS pigs doing what they do best. The one who busted her up should have to stand by while this woman's family stomps a mudhole in his mama's ass and films it for their entertainment.
Loveland Colorado used to be a nice place. Famous for the unique postmark used on Valentine's Day. This isn't an isolated incident. Watching those three yucking it up shows me they are accustomed to being abusive and getting away with it.
This is the same police department that roughed up a good samaritan and dislocated his shoulder too. He stopped to help someone who skidded and dumped their bike. Didn't know the circumstances, knew his Constitutional Rights, and refused interrogation.
An excessive force lawsuit filed against the Loveland Police Department has been settled for nearly $300,000.
Loveland resident Pretson Sowl filed the lawsuit against the city of Loveland, Loveland Police Department and Loveland police officers Paul Ashe and Benjamin DeLima, Det. Clint Schnorr and Sgt. Brian Bartnes.
The lawsuit alleged officers violated Sowl's constitutional rights when they arrested him for refusing to answer questions as a witness about a motorcycle crash outside a Loveland bar Sept. 22, 2019.
Ashe detained Sowl for not answering his questions, twisting his arm behind his back and pushing his face into the ground. Sowl said he needed shoulder replacement surgery after the incident, according to the lawsuit.
Sowl's arrest was captured on body camera footage. At one point in the interaction, Sowl can be heard telling Ashe, "I don't know what happened. I'm not talking to nobody."
For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "If a man will not work, he shall not eat."
4 Loveland Police officers on administrative leave in connection to Karen Garner arrest
The LPD officers on administrative leave include:
Officer Austin Hopp Officer Daria Jalali Sgt. Phil Metzler Community service officer Tyler Blackett
Schielke alleges the video shows the three arresting officers watching body camera video of Garner's arrest, laughing and celebrating the excessive force, and fist-bumping the fact that one of the officers intimidated a citizen who stopped to make a complaint.
Tom Hacker with the City of Loveland said officer Blackett was at the booking location where Garner was transported after her arrest and also engaged in the transfer of Garner to the Larimer County Jail.
"It's a really important thing for everyone to know that this is now a criminal investigation," said Hacker. "It's one that LPD asked for and the DA is taking it on Ft. Collins Police, both working on this [investigation] and we hope that this investigation goes as expeditiously as possible and that we learn of the outcome very soon."
For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: "If a man will not work, he shall not eat."
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
Concealing property in the store in and of itself is a crime. The store called police. If police spent hours talking to people that want to talk in circles or simply walk away without complying to lawful commands (which they were she concealed property until confronted by store personnel and the store chose to call police). Police would spend all day talking in circles to people who aren’t going to comply, claim they aren’t guilty and want to argue. Police are on timelines and expect to have lawful basic orders followed. If she had looked confused I’d have more compassion. It’s unfortunate but she looked like a run of the mill shoplifting that didn’t want to stop and deal with the police. Police don’t have all day for that.
What exactly is it you think cops have to do all day that they don't have time to safely handle an infirm old woman? This report literally shows they have nothing better to do than hang out laughing at video of themselves in little old lady abuse porn. You're paying for this. And you pay for settlements every time they go too far getting their kicks.
Does it not occur to you that just by poor luck you could lose your senses and end up in the same he'll as that poor lady? They'll do it to her. They'll do it to you. They'll even do it to each other. Cops treat US citizens worse than we treat prisoners of war.
Asking for the job to be done without torture isn't much. And we do pay for it.
And incidents like this consume a hell of a lot more time than trying for a few minutes to sweet talk an elderly woman. Them laughing at the tape tells me all I need to know. Disgusting pieces of schidt.
I didn’t see anything overly aggressive there. The woman looks much younger than 73 and doesn’t act as someone with dementia. In a perfect world the cops would all act like Andy Griffith but in the real world they’re busy and get tired of people guilty as sin playing dumb and not complying day after day.
Based on some of the reactions I was expecting to see the police body slam a clearly confused and old as dirt woman to the ground. That doesn’t seem to be the case.
Are you being serious??? She had a confused look on her face when the moron approached her and ALL she ever said was she was going home.... She wasn't confrontational or argumentative, she just wanted to go home.... In turn, the cop just couldn't handle her defiance and got her to the ground, cuffed her and THEN dislocated her shoulder. If she was a whacko with hostages they would try to talk her out of it, but $14.00 worth of stuff she left at the store and she gets attacked and thrown in a cell for 6 hours with no medical attention. GMAFB!!!!
I’m sure that she did just want to go home.Then again anyone else getting caught committing a crime just wants to go home Vs. jail or a hassle with cops too. They’re was no way for the police to know that she had dementia and she did commit a crime. Granted a petty crime but I get why law enforcement gets tired of and doesn’t have all day to deal with people mostly committing minor crimes but that want to not comply and argue all day. They didn’t bodyslam her. She concealed property (a crime) they asked her to talk to them. She didn’t so they forcefully put her in cuffs as quickly and efficiently as possible with minimal force.
She did not have the stuff. She gave the stuff back to the security at walmart and they let her leave. She was walking home, on the street. What possible reason do you have for the dickhead officer using leverage on her arm until it breaks and her shoulder is dislocated.... I think you have a lot of talking to do before you convince a normal person that this should be acceptable or understandable.
As I understand it. She did conceal the property which is a crime. Walmart let her go but that wasn’t relayed to the police. I didn’t see anything in the arrest that I would suspect to cause that level of injuries. She IMO didn’t look particularly elderly and I didn’t see extreme force in getting her in cuffs to comply.
It sucks but she committed a crime and refused to comply with something as basic as stop or turn around and comply with police. Which may have been because of the dementia but there was no way for police on the fly to know that.
I see this whole thing as the msm turning there sites on “lil ol grandma to rile up whites just like they have blacks.” I’m not arguing that it couldn’t have been handled better but in real time she was another petty criminal that didn’t want to comply. I didn’t see police using extreme force.
A broken arm and a dislocated shoulder on a 73 year old petite woman by police isn't using extreme force in your opinion? What's wrong with you?
