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Just curious, does a 130 grain partition 270 caliber make much bloodshot meat?

I have not had problems with 130 gr Partitions regarding blood shot meat any more than any other bullet.

No, have used a lot of them and 140 7mm in a 7 mag

Dont shoot them in the meat. Problem solved.

The only experience I ever had with a 130 grain bullet was with a core lokt. The whole front of the deer was bloodshot. I'll give the partitions a try

I have very limited experience with the partitions, three deer shot and two recovered. There was not a lot of bloodshot meat but there were longer trailing jobs than I’ve experienced with “softer” bullets. Of course, the softer bullets (ballistic tips and accubonds) resulted in more bloodshot meat.

They might but then again most bullets that kill like lightening will.

It's called a tradeoff.

Give me 5# max of bloodshot meat and minimal or no tracking.

don't like tracking deer, will trade a little meat for dead right there.

You won't find a bullet that has a much "softer" front end than a Partition except varmint style bullets.

Partition front sections are made to expand quick fast and in a hurry.

Probably a regional thing. I hunt thick nasty azz creek bottoms and want em dead fast. I don't like dragging them back across creeks.

Water may not be but knee deep but the banks may be 15' vertical and slick bastards. Try dragging a 200# buck up one of those boogers.

Depends how far away you shoot things but yes - it can be a violent killer in my experience.

Killed Quite a few deer and a couple elk with the 270. Works great.
The 130 Partition is supposed to go thru the chest cavity where it excels.
Heart ruptured, lungs mushed and a couple ribs gone.Great.

have used 130 gr Partitions in my pre-64 Model 70 for several years. My load was 54 gr IMR 4350 pushing the Partition along. shot about MOA.

Shot several deer with that load. Never shot one twice. Never had to track much.

Dont think there was more blood shot meat than with 300 Savage i have used.

Yep, depends on where one shoots them. In the ribs, not an issue, in the front shoulder, lots of bloodshot meat due to hydrostatic shock.

Really.....About any Nosler is a good bullet choice.

Same here hunting swamps and swamp edges I’m a pretty decent tracker but I want them DRT.

Thumbcocker: I have shot MANY dozens of medium size Big Game animals with the wonderful Nosler 130 grain Partitions.
This was my "go to" bullet for several decades.
Virtually everyone of the game animals (Blacktailed Deer, Antelope, Mule Deer and Whitetailed Deer) were shot intentionally, and patiently, through the heart/lungs!
NO bloodshot issues occurred.
The listed animals, above, gave NO tracking problems what so ever - they either fell near the spot shot or dashed 100 yards and fell bled out!
Like another poster replied - don't shoot them in the meat (shoulders, neck, backbone etc) shoot them through the heart/lungs - problems solved.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Just about any expanding bullet ruins even more meat if you shoot them in the rear shoulder....

Where does the “front shoulder” end and the “rear shoulder” begin?

^^^ THIS ^^^ i prefer a no track`em rifle too, > one and done is best

Between. Forward a bit is my preference.

Thanks for the info. I have used 150 grain speer hot core for years. Almost never a problem with blood shot meat. The 130 partiton is the only weight partiton that will shoot well in my 270,

I have shot deer with the 150 grain partiton in a 7mm saum. Very little blood shot meat.

Anything moving 3K+ is going to make a mess.

You're probably right. I was thinking that a partition would hold together better.

I loaded 130gr NPT's for an old Man over IMR-7828 until the old Guy could no longer hunt, would hear him shoot, i was never far away, neither were his deer, hope that helps, he had an old BDL 270 Winchester with a 3-9 redfield TV? reticle, i miss that old Cat.

It's a Partition.

The front core is soft and smears away pretty quickly, hence the reason they kill rather quickly.

Have you tried a 130gr Barnes? They have worked well for me in two different 270s for Deer, Elk, and Antelope.

Here is the truth. Here in the South, we get a very liberal limit on deer. I use several bullets that all work very well. but Remember what Mule deer said.

So, where do you shoot a deer to not get blood shot meat = rear or back of the lungs. Back of the lungs breaks the diaphragm and is a very deadly shot. The Wife and I eat around 6 deer per year, jerky, ground , cube steak are our cuts. The 130g Hornady sp flat base think it is a partition.

Shoulder shots ruin both shoulders, 8" behind the shoulder is a great shot placement, but a guy often has to take a shot on a running or trotting deer when deer are in the rut. For standing shots 200 yds and under, the neck shot in front of the shoulder is a great shot, and we use 4-16 scopes for just these kinds of shots.

I have one old Ruger boat paddle 270 that has killed 150+ deer with the 150g Rem Core loct's factory ammo that belonged to my next door neighbor, and the 150g Core loct bullet is a very tough bullet, 3x9 Leupold compact and 110g ttsx is what it shooting now at 3300fps.

My 270 doesn't like boat tail bullets. The one on the partition is smaller than a normal boat tailed bullet. The 130 is the only partition my 270 shoots well.

What Varmint Guy said. I have killed a lot of animals with the 270/130 partition. The wound channel is like coring an apple, not the vast amounts of bloodshot meat you get with some other bullets. the least destructive, effective bullet I have ever used.

I’ve taken several blacktail and mule deer, a couple of elk and a mountain goat with the 130gr partition.
They work as advertised, but I didn’t think any better than the Hornady soft points and just use them these days.....

That's why I always aim for the front hind quarter.

I have been trying for years to get a consistent definition of "DRT" or "short" tracking jobs from folks on here. An antelope sprinting 100 yards before cartwheeling is usually no big deal. A blacktail doing so on POW could be a serious issue.

Honestly though "no tracking" and most especially "DRT" to me isn't synonymous with 100 yard death runs even if I watch them fall and don't need to actually track it down. DRT, to me at least, means they don't take a single step.

Shoot them just as they exhale, they will be DRT.

Same with a shoulder shot.

A 270 with a 130 grain running fast can blood shoot some meat no mater what bullet you use if the shots are at 200 yards and closer. Partitions do, but no worse then any other and not as bad as some. Any bullet that impacts at between 3150 and about 2750 is going to do some amount of bloodshooting just because of speed. Bullets that blow up do more damage, and the front end of a Partition can blow up at high impact speeds. I used 130 grain partitions for quite a few kills in the 70s and then I tried 150s and found I liked them better and in both my 270s they were also more accurate, so I switched. I shoot them between 2875 and 2975 from various rifles and that's still fast, but I found they did less damage to the meat than the 130s did. Now I use 130s in one rifle just because it shoot them VERY well, and in my other two 270s I use 150s and 160s .
But overall I can't say much bad about 130 gr Partitions. If you typical shot is at 150 and farther you'll love them, and if you kill game under 130 they are a bit hard on meat, but not so hard that I'd give up on them

Sarcasm On:

If you'd buy an Uberlanche and 2Mi of winch-cable, none of that would matter.

Sarcasm Off:

While a messy shoulder certainly doesn't look appealing, how many # of meat does the peanut gallery say one actually loses if you have to toss the whole thing? I suspect it depends upon how much facia (silver-skin) a person is willing to toss into their grind. Even if one just de-bones a pristine deer shoulder without then trimming facia I doubt many deer have a full 10# of muscle on 1 shoulder. I dare say that very few deer have 10# of facia-trimmed meat on both shoulders combined.

What I'm getting at is, does it really matter if a given projectile renders a shoulder unusable?

I agree with your numbers. To this guy, it does not really matter.

You might get 10# total off of 2 shoulders on a big 200# buck. I bet less.

Probably less after you trim all connective tissue and silver skin off.

Wrong.

I dumped a thick 160lb boar hog a month ago. The 130 PT went perfectly square thru the meat on both shoulders. Beautiful 1” hole in and out. Trimmed an extra half in around the hole and made tacos. Awesome bullet to say the least.
Shot was 75 yards with a full scoop of Reloder 22 in the .270win.

So a Partition is a form of C&C. Its more along the line of a Bonded bullet. So it retains more of it weight than say a Berger or Varmint Grenade. High Frag bullets, because they are so explosive, causes the most meat (internal) damage. Monometals IME make the least amount of bloodshot damage. That being said, again IME I shot an Elk at 218 using a 165gr Berger Hunter Hybrid (Federal 30-06 off the shelve box ammo .. I know I know roast me later) but that ammo is awesome. It entered her chest cavity (straight 12 o'clock shot) and exited her left shoulder. It actually blew out her shoulder and she DRT'd. There was very little blood shot meat and if I had to guess, the hardest thing that bullet hit was the shoulder from the inside going out. That was mostly isolated to bone.

YMMV

HaYen

Not much to add except that if I had a 270 that only shot one bullet well, and it happened to be the 130 Partition, I'd count myself as very fortunate.

If I can kill a 200+# buck this year I will make sure and weigh how much the shoulders weigh before and after deboning. Bet I am.pretty damn close.

Before I quit shooting my 270 in favor of my 7X57, I always shot 130 grain Partitions. When I hit 'em in the chest, no problem with the 130 grain Partition. Hit 'em in the shoulder with a 130 grainer and you get blood shot meat. I'm shooting 160 grain Partitions in my 7X57 and so far, so good, but I haven't hit a shoulder.....yet.

Now that is funny! laffin

I know you didnt ask but........

I've shot more than a few deer with the 270. About any 130 gr cup-core based bullet moving at 270 velocities is going to give some amount of bloodshot meat. In my mind 2 choices exist - monos or 150 grain bonded bullets of which I'd include the Partution even though it's not bonded. I've shot deer and elk with the 150 Partition and have seen a couple black bears handily dispatched with 150 NPT. In that rather limited sample set, I'd pontificate I've seen less bloodshot meat, 2 holes every time, and very short times between shot and animal down. It's likely my favorite 270 bullet. In fact, I'm doing load development now for a buddy of mine for elk season this year. I have ALOT of faith in the 150 NPT on ungulates at reasonable distances which with a 270 is beyond 500 yards with that combination. It's hard to beat a lightweight, accurate 270 with a 150 NPT.

Abso freakin lutely !!


Jerry

I'm no Sitting Bull or Geronimo. I'm not a great tracker because I'm partially color blind and blood doesn't stand out to me. I'll gladly sacrifice a couple pounds of meat for a bang flop kill. I like most any 130 Grain Spitzer but my favorite is the SGK. It kills like lightning and I really haven't noticed much difference in blooded meat when I use them as opposed to other brands of bullets.

However, I'm talking Texas size whitetail deer here. If I ever get a chance to go after an Elk you all here have convinced me the Nosler 150 grain Partition is the ticket. I've never hunted Elk but I have been on Nilgai hunts. Nilgai I believe are similar in size. On those hunts I took my 9.3x62 and my 300 WBY But next time I'm thinking of taking my .270 with 150 grain Partitions.

270win with a 150NPT with 59-60gr of RL26 is all a man will need to kill anything in North America. That will include Moose and Bison.

^^^THIS^^^

That is the load I use except I shoot the 150gr. ABLR!

Elk Country

I got a good deal on some 140grain Partitions a while back and I can't see them being wrong for just about anything I would shoot with a 270. Load em down to 2700 fps for the thick and full speed any other hunting.

I started using the Partitions in the middle 60's, and have been way more than satisfied with them.. Every one that I recovered did just as it was supposed to do. These were tested on big game from 30 yards to 500 yards

I’ve seen several hundred deer dumped with a 270 and 130 grain Speer, Hornady, and Sierra bullets. All plain Jane flat base spritzers ahead of a max book charge of IMR 4350 or 4831. All shoulder shots and all fell right there or within on leap. I never really cared about a shoulder roast that much and it usually got ground into burger anyway. I’d say a 130 partition should be fine and don’t worry about the shoulder meat.

Yep, where I hunt there’s things that will stick you, bite you, and sting you. I like them deer DRT also.

Walking up on a 6’ Diamondback or a skunk in the brush is exciting. Face first into a wasp nest is cool too, been there, didn’t like that.

Same bullet, 55 gr. of IMR 4831, CCI 200 primers, and lots of BBQ's.

No complaints.




GR

Do you get good accuracy with that load. I’ve been looking for a good RL26 load for 130’s and 150’s. I jugged a 150 partition using H4350 and she went through seven jugs and kept on trucking. I was with JD338 when I did it and he actually found the bullet about 30 yards further down range on the ground.

How about a woman? My wife killed bull moose and bison with the .270 Winchester with one double-lung shot apiece--150 Nosler Partition and 130 TSX--long before RL-26 appeared.

Men usually need more horsepower for killin than women do.

This reminds me that I need to go shoot my 270win.

Someday I need to find a 270 for "just too cheap".
Don't think I have ever pulled the trigger on one.

Pretty sure it won't do anything the Sweed 308, 06, 300, 7mag don't do.
But......Just need to find out.

Have switched to the Speer Grand Slam 150 gr. for my mundane .270 Win hunting.

It's a $0.22/pop bullet(rebate) that will generally exit, and drops deer and hogs just fine w/o tearin' hell out of'em.

Sighted for 200, get by just fine w/ the extra 1.5" drop at 300.




GR

My main deer/elk guns over the last 50 years have been a 270, 30-06, and 300 WSM. If you have a 30-06, buying the other 2 are a waste of money. I've never had an animal survive a hit from any of the 3. The 300 weighs too much at my age. I got it as a result of wanting a change from years of the 270 which left little to be desired but just wanted a change. The '06 is a compromise between larger and smaller but all are entirely adequate.

Have killed deer with those listed, plus 243 and 30-30.
Just seems like I need to try a 270.
Anymore, setting up to load a new round often stops me.
The days of dies, 100/bullets and brass, and a new trimmer pilot for under $70 are gone.

Long fugging gone, you buy dies ,brass ,bullets when you find a good deal not when you need them. That's how to have what you need before you need it. Easier to get the gun these days than the components to make it go bang. Way it is. Mb

I have owned several .270s in the 62 years I have been hunting..maybe 6 years ago, I found one in a pawn shop a guy made up just before he passed on.. It has become one of my three favorite rifles edging out the .25-06.. Mostly I have been shooting 140 Sierra HPBT.. But this fall I am loading a few 150 gr. Accubond and carrying at least some of the time for elk.. My daughter will be using the new to her 700 bdl .270 with .130 gr. Partitions...