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Guys have been wondering about gun values. Yesterday I attended a gun auction. A gorgeous pre 64 all original standard 243(1956) with the old Bevlar 2.5x8 scope in the adjustable mounts went for 1600 bucks. I dropped out at 1500. A nice 1955 all original FWT in 3006 with same scope and mounts went for 1125. A remington 722 in decent shape in 222 mag went for 950. A crazy remimgton XP 100 pistol in 221 fireball went for 1000. Was in perfect condition. Hope this helps

Good prices, location for perspective?

Both mod 70s appeared to have had the barrels full length bedded. There was a fine edge of Acraglas (??) full length alone the barrels, visible under strong light. I dropped out at $1350 on the .243. It was definitely a nice rifle.

Central Pa Poconojack

Im hoping you know this, but prices are all over the place and highly dependent on locale. So, as for it helping anyone out? Probably not.

Sry, BSA I was only trying to help. I wont do it again. LOL

Bsa, you are an angry little elf.

I have a Pre64 243 FWT from the early 50's thats a mint rifle. The only thing missing is the box and I'd be hard pressed to let it go for $1600. I've sold two std that were probably 80% and got $2500 for each of them. That was 4 years ago or so however

I've wanted pre-64 Winchester in 375 and 300 H&H for a while - now I have both and I got them at prices for less than I sold a couple 700 classic's for at the Tulsa show.

I think the pre '64 70 and 94 prices have gone down considerably and Remington 700's have gone up considerably -- who would have guessed.

I've sold rifles in the past that have gone way up in prices after I sold them. I bought some rifles and was confident that they would go up in price - a couple decades later finally sold them for what I bought them for.

Same with old cars and pickups. I sold my 1965 Impala Super Sport high performance 396 for a song and sold square body Chevy's and late 70's Ford pickups for way less than today's prices. I have bought some old tractors that one day were fairly high priced - I bought them recently for about 1/2 or less of what they were recently - example a recently over-hauled Ford 8N with heavy duty loader for $1,000. Then I bought a mower and a 3 point field cultivator for scrap steel prices.

It's sort of like the stock market, I guess. I'm terrible regarding the stock market. I'm even worse at buying and selling houses.

You just have to ignore him until he says something useful.

Yes, I've been noticing this trend of reversing M700 and M70 desirability, it's weird but is happening.

I think a lot of this is a couple of other trends contributing to the change. The availability of really good aftermarket triggers for the 700 like Timney or TriggerTech, And the trend toward lighter rifles.
These two things are affecting the hunting sway toward the 700 imho.

Pretty sure that the recent Remington bankruptcy is THE major factor in the escalating prices of Remington guns.

Strongly disagree that pre64 M94 and M70 prices have gone down considerably unless one is talking about non-original, shooter grade guns.

The collector market for factory original Winchesters with condition is as strong as it has ever been.

I gotta agree with Pocono. Im still kicking myself for NOT buying a really nice all original 1953 FWT in 308 last year. Could of had it out the door for 1080. I didnt because I already have a 1954 that was in just a little bit better condition. I just saw an original pre 64 model 70 standard stock in great shape sold for 680! Just the stock. I bought whole guns for less than that a couple of months ago!!

Well I got my 300 H&H and my 375 H&H for $1,100 and $1,250.

You can say what you want, but those prices are way below a few years ago. You don’t have to agree that these prices are typical, but that’s what I paid for them. I picked up a nice pre-64 Winchester 94 in 30-30 for $450 at Tulsa. There was nothing wrong with that rifle.

I like old Winchesters and I buy them when I can. But...

I remember when Model A coupes, 49 Mercury's, 2 door 51 and 52 Chevy's with split manifold and lake pipes, and 40 Ford coupes besides others were hot. Then it was the muscle cars...

I like nice oil rubbed walnut stocks. My son won't shoot his 30-06 that I gave him - I spent a lot of time on that stock. He prefers the cheap synthetic stocked 270 Mossberg instead. I understand that that is common with young shooters.

My neighbor had a collection of old Farmall tractors somewhere between 30 and 40 of them. He had them in top running condition - nice paint - nice rubber - really in top condition. He loved his old Farmall tractors. The doctor told him that he should get his affairs in order and that meant besides everything else selling his beloved Farmall tractors. Those tractors sold for about 50% of what they would have maybe 5 to 10 years earlier. In his mind, they were beautiful and they were worth a lot of money. I went to him after the sale was about 3/4's done. I knew he wasn't getting the money that I thought he would get. He explained to me that the guys that grew up with those old tractors were too old to be buying and many have passed away.

I liked the old Winchesters, still do. I especially like the pre-war lever actions, especially the 92's, the 86's, 85's, and the 94's. I'd buy them if and when I can afford them. But my kids would sell them the day after I gave them to them and buy a modern rifle for less money and pocket the change.

Thankfully my oldest son said that he'd never sell the 1930's vintage Model 12 that my dad bought new and gave to me and I gave to to my son. But in my estate sale, I'm thinking the kids will let my "prizes" go.

Its like I told my Mom after she brought more of her stuff to our house; "Mom, look around. Does it look like we don't have enough [bleep] of our own?"

I collect what I like, not what my Dad liked. And they can sell it or not when I'm done with it. I'll probably put peoples names on my guns. Whatever the kids get from me will be more than I got.

I owned a Pre 64 a long time ago, great rifle but it was in a caliber I was not particularly fond of, so it was sold, I have had 4 push feeds (still have two) and three or four 700 Remingtons. I have never missed the earlier, Model 70's, the ones I have now have done everything I ask of them for 1/2 the price. The pre 64's are nice, but I always thought they were overpriced. My two most accurate rifles are my 300 WM, post 64, with consistent groups under 1/2 inch, and my Remington tactical .308 with similar group sizes. Just my 02, after 65 years in the field.