Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles Model 70 CRF vs Tikka T3x - don’t hold back

Yeah the SA Classic Selects are trim and balanced

I literally asked for it, so fair enough, I guess.

I'll keep to walnut/blued. Weather hasn't ruined one yet and the bullet seems to find its way into lung tissue. Works for me.

What speed is “up to speed” with the 162? I’m getting 2780 with 150 eldx. I ran a bunch of what-ifs with velocity comparing my load to the 162 and I had to get the 162 really moving to equal the numbers.

I own both Tikka & Win 70 CRF. Hans down prefer the Win. CRF. Box magazine with a floor plate compared to a cheapo plastic magazine that only holds two rounds. Also the recoil lug of the Win is an integral part of the action, not an add on washer. THE Win will shoot every bit as accurate as the Tikka. MY Savage rifles are by far my most accurate. But overall the Winchester is the clear winner in my opinion.

2700 give or take is the goal with 162's if barrels run in the low 20" range.

the advantage with the 162 is that it will exhibit good upset down to 1600.. reliably too. plenty of data on this.

not sure i'd send a 150 down to 1600 and expect wound channel much greater then a pin hole. 200gr eld-m weren't impressive at lower velocities and with a constant linotype and jacket thickness you'd expect more upset with a higher volume to surface ratio... 150's should in theory be harder then a 200 eld-x

and the thing with the 162, it's not explosive up close.

i don't have the time to shoot 10 animals with every bullet combo just to establish a baseline. seen shot, have shot, and know of hundreds of dead critters in new zealand with the 162gr eld-m/amax. all from a tikka stainless.

deviating from that known constant would be difficult for me. my bro did shoot an elk with my kimber and a 150gr eld-x.. and it was fine.

but 162 and tikka stainless is my constant. everything else is measured and needs to improve from said baseline

Man, either would work just fine. Its really a toss up to me if we are talking Classic stainless vs. something like the Tikka T3x stainless lite model. For me, it would be like this:

30-06 Stainless classic with walnut stock:

Scope even meets the op's requirement^^^


Tikka T3 stainless lite 308win:



Both newer rifles to me: Bought within the last 2 months. Each one will get some field time this year... For loads, I'm thinking I'd run the 165 TSX in the 308 and a 165-168 TTSX/TSX in the 30-06 or a good ol 180 or 200gr partition. Whatever I felt like using at the moment. I need to add, if it came down to a Portuguese model 70 and a Tikka, I'd pick the Tikka..

Great advice.

70

how many top flight gunsmiths use m70s and how many churn out tikkas? There is your answer.

Teekers as a whole,are FAR more sound than 70's of any/all vintages. 'Course as mentioned,the stock ergo's are better too. Hint.

Not that I don't enjoy Brokedick Drooler pics,of those who can only afford 50% of scope caps. Hint. LAUGHING!

Winchester has an amazingly long track record,of dropping the ball and they go wayyyyyyyy outta their way to make certain dots don't connect mechanically. Pardon my simply shooting it all and then some. Hint.

LAUGHING!..................

Tikka, Talleys, FFII, 30-06, factory ammo. May the odds be forever in your favor.

You serious??? Puh-leeeeze..

Is that because the M70 requires a gunsmith and the Tikka is good to go right out of the box?

This.

Pretty sure he's getting at the fact that not many folks customize or build a custom based on a $450 rifle with lots of plastic.

I've owned 5 m70 FWTs. None needed anything out of the box. All shot/shoot MOA with factory ammo.

A Socko made product vs Winnie......

I don't know. My model 70 7mm-08 is pretty slick and accurate little rifle. I hear you on the 7x57 though. I have an XTR Featherweight in that chambering that is one of my favorites.

Out of the box Classic stainless in 300 WM. Not recommending the caliber per your requirements, just the platform. This is with factory ammo (Hornady0 used to sight in the scope. I also looked at the Tikkas and to me it was the M70 all the way. I can't speak to the synthetic stocks because i only own one and it's a McMillan.

I know. At the end of the day a rifle is a tool. Many "single task" tools come in a huge variety of both quality and usefulness. I have 2 LH M70s and 1 LH Tikka. The M70s are nice rifles, but I drag synthetic rifles around the woods. Mostly that is because I'm afraid to damage the "pretty" guns. Also, the synthetic and stainless guns tend to shrug off moister and temperature changes better. (Hell, despite having several nice rifles, I tend to carry a RAR more than anything else) Guess I'm more of a "tool user" then a "tool appreciator". Perhaps I should just get over it and put some "character" on the wood guns.

If you would prefer to leave your kids a nice stick of plastic then have at it. Sounds like you haven't t owned or held a true piece of craftsmanship in the form of a rifle made to order. Once you do, that Tikka, while perhaps a useful tool, will reveal itself as the soulless object it is.