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With all this going on, when did they start marking barrels 250 Sav instead of 250-3000?

Found Tim's prior posted about his 1959 99F 250-3000. here is the link: https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/14181196/1

9595XX, very early '59, Chicopee Falls marked barrel. He checked the twist serveral time, each time coming in between 10 and 10 1/2.

I don't remember what year it was but it is 1-10".

I've got quite a few around that time frame but am working ungodly hours at the moment and would rather eat, shower, sleep, and sip cocktails in the late evening than document rifles.

Interesting that a Chicopee barrel is 1-10. Apparently this idea was already off the drawing board and maybe even possibly into production shortly before the move to Westfield?

Anybody got a 1-14 Westfield barrel that they know of?

That's one I've never heard of.

I put the four asterisks **** after 1960 as I cheated some and thought maybe 1961. I looked in David Royal's book and at the start of Chapter 7 (page 91) he writes that after the move to Westfield in 1960 Savage started the 1 in 10" 250 twist. I sorta thought well maybe they didn't really start getting them in the chain until 1961 and thought of putting that year, but couldn't find any reference to it later in the book, nor anything in Murray's book either. I didn't spend alot of time looking in either book as I was in a hurry to get back outside and run our ditches huntin asparagus. 2 1/2 grocery sacks worth was the result of that labor. Besides freezing, cooking, or baking it, wife makes asparagus pickles, dang good.

Did Tim or Fireball ever check the date code on the lever boss for that gun? That should indicate the assembly finish year.

My presumption with that rifle was that it had probably been finished late in 1960 and they'd bored an already stamped Chicopee Falls barrel blank to 250-3000 with 1-10" twist. But while possible, that seems less likely now. Hey, I've got a 99DL in 284 with a Chicopee Falls barrel, so don't tell me it can't happen.

David from that thread made a good guess..:

Possibly the subject of a future trivia quiz...

Not many 250's made in the late `50's. Then Savage moved to Westfield and the 250 had some production 1960 into 1961 then discontinued for several years. It is common to find Chicopee marked brls on rifles produced in those first two years at Westfield. It's possible that if the 1 in 10 started in the 50's all the brls might be marked Chicopee.

I have a 99G in 250-3000 from the end of 1926 with a 24" Westfield barrel on it with 1-10" twist. Stamped "250-3000 SAVAGE", no SP stamp but it does have an RP2 stamp (whatever that means), and it is 1-10" twist rate. Nothing to date the barrel to a fine degree, but it does have the very minimal Westfield barrel address which I think is from the 60's.

I'll have to check the twist on my 24" barrel 250-3000 K.

I measured the 24" 250-3000 99K twist twice. I came up with exactly 1 in 13" both times.

Bet it shoots the 100 grain bullets better than normal.

Lever boss is a K
Address is Chicopee Falls

That seems to confirm that at least some 1 in 10" twist 250-3000 barrels made it onto 99's in 1959.

Rewrite the books...

What number constitutes mass production....10 or 200 or ?

I carefully worded the question to avoid that issue...

"When do you think they started making 250-3000 barrels with 1-10" twist rates?"

Not real careful. 😂

"Not just one-off's or one or two months of that year.. but full time including a full or almost full year?"

All this talk of twists, Chicopee Falls and Westfield is getting me all twisted up. Maybe if I make it to Noxen we can drag a patch through my Westfield 24" 22hp barrel. The September question can be, who made the first 1 in 9 HP barrel?

Stop it Joe........ at least it keeps him busy.😉