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Tungsten super shot, Who's using these bad boys?

Current prices show about 15 bucks per shell for 3" 12g...huh?

Whats normal prices before this years ammo insanity?

Actual effective killing distance?

who has, BTDT?

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This spring I’ve watched seven birds die from seven shots with the federal 20ga tss shells. They work

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Was doing some patterning and sighting in the red dot on my 20 Wednesday. The guys shooting 5 Stand asked about turkey shells. When I showed them my TSS targets and pics of my .410 TSS targets, they were pretty much amazed.

If head-shooting turkeys at ranges up to 50 yards or so, maybe more is what you want to do, TSS is the way to get it done, and you don’t need $15 3” 12s to do it; $9 20s or $6 410s are fine.😛


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9.5’s are serious business from my 410. I’m shooting Apex Ninjas


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Originally Posted by ShortMagFan
This spring I’ve watched seven birds die from seven shots with the federal 20ga tss shells. They work


I believe they do work, No doubt there.

These 7 birds were killed at what distances?

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Originally Posted by Bearcat74

9.5’s are serious business from my 410. I’m shooting Apex Ninjas


Looks like the 12g has 8.5 shot,

I use bigger shot for trap, just doesn't compute................

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Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by Bearcat74

9.5’s are serious business from my 410. I’m shooting Apex Ninjas


Looks like the 12g has 8.5 shot,

I use bigger shot for trap, just doesn't compute................



https://www.super18tungstenshot.com/blogs/education/what-makes-tss-so-effective


These guys load 9’s for the 12 gauge.


https://apexmunition.com/product/pt-3-5-12-gauge-3-5-2-5-oz-5-shells/




From the 1st link


COMPARING VARIOUS SHOT MATERIALS

For illustration, here's a comparison of pellets of various shot material. Let's say that each pellet is going 1100 fps (muzzle velocity), at sea level and at 70 deg F. Here's the distance each type pellet will give you 1.25" of ballistics gel penetration, as well as showing the number of pellets per ounce. When you think about the penetration per pellet along with the number of pellets available to penetrate the target, these numbers will illustrate why density makes such a huge difference in a shotshell's performance on fowl.

8g/cc Steel #2 (123/oz) – 45.7 yds
11g/cc Nickel Plated lead #5 (174/oz) – 60.4 yds
12g/cc Hevi-13 #6 (208/oz) – 60.4 yds
15g/cc Fed HWT #7 (220/oz) – 81 yds
18g/cc TSS #8-1/2 (300/oz) – 84.5 yds



I shoot tss 9.5’s from my 410 and Federal HWT 7’s from my 20.


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Originally Posted by Kenneth
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9.5’s are serious business from my 410. I’m shooting Apex Ninjas


Looks like the 12g has 8.5 shot,

I use bigger shot for trap, just doesn't compute................

Big difference between lead shot and tss.

I will still shoot cheap lead though.

Never had any issues killing turkeys to 60 yards with lead #4 or #5.


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It’s all good.

Just decided to go all out this season. This is all fun and games, doncha know?


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My main problem is I am sitting on about 75 of the 10 gauge loads and probably 250 12 gauge 2 3/4" and 3" buffered magnum 4s, 5s and 6s.

Need to shoot those up.

I might try TSS or Hevi Shot if I get me a little 20.


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Originally Posted by Kenneth
Originally Posted by ShortMagFan
This spring I’ve watched seven birds die from seven shots with the federal 20ga tss shells. They work


I believe they do work, No doubt there.

These 7 birds were killed at what distances?


20-50 yards

The way I explain it to people - would you rather get hit by a golf ball or a tennis ball? The tennis ball is bigger but the golf ball is a lot denser and is going to hurt a lot more. Same thing with TSS 9s (golf ball) and lead 5s (tennis ball)

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My main problem is I am sitting on about 75 of the 10 gauge loads and probably 250 12 gauge 2 3/4" and 3" buffered magnum 4s, 5s and 6s.

Need to shoot those up.

I might try TSS or Hevi Shot if I get me a little 20.


Don’t buy that little 20 - you won’t shoot the 10 or 12 anymore.

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This is my first year ever using a 20ga, have always used 12's and 10's. Using the Federal TSS 20ga 3" #9's and, I admit, took me a while to get over the #9 shot. That's always been skeet sized shot.

The first bird to fall to this set-up was a big, mature, NW Illinois bird in the Galena area. He was just outside of 40 yards and not coming an inch closer. The TSS load dumped him with the same authority I've seen in the past from 12's and 10's. And he hit the ground at the shot, and not one twitch! No flopping around with feathers going everywhere, bang = dead.

Just got home from trip number 2 last night from up in central Wisconsin, just South of Mauston. Anything would have killed this bird, maybe 15 yards away. So no real testimony for the TSS.

But the biggest advantage to me with the TSS shot, is I'm able to use a much lighter and more compact turkey set-up that still delivers a huge punch. Where I hunt, mainly IL and WI, 20ga is the smallest bore I can legally use, so no 410 option. Otherwise I'd have another use for my old Winchester model 37.

One more trip coming up. I was able to get a "leftover" tag for NE Wisconsin up by my place in Algoma.

I'll continue to use TSS shot, it's performance is fantastic.

Now, have to figure out how to get pics from my phone into this thread! Lol!


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Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
My main problem is I am sitting on about 75 of the 10 gauge loads and probably 250 12 gauge 2 3/4" and 3" buffered magnum 4s, 5s and 6s.

Need to shoot those up.

I might try TSS or Hevi Shot if I get me a little 20.


That’s a problem many would like to have just about now.


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Originally Posted by Pappy348
Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
My main problem is I am sitting on about 75 of the 10 gauge loads and probably 250 12 gauge 2 3/4" and 3" buffered magnum 4s, 5s and 6s.

Need to shoot those up.

I might try TSS or Hevi Shot if I get me a little 20.


That’s a problem many would like to have just about now.

There in lies their problem.

Lack of planning. I knew 10 gauge ammo would almost dry up so I bought a ton at about $10 a box years ago.

The 12 gauge hoard happened when I realized my 24" barreled Gold was one picky SOB. I stocked up on a schittload of the Federal Turkey Thugs #5 & #6 doubt I will ever shoot half of em up.

Even if I buy an auto 20 I will probably just stick with #6 lead. For my style of hunting the TSS holds no advantages.

Out to 40 yards which is a hell of a long ways especially in the timber a load of lead 6s will work just fine, hell even a 1 oz. load of 7 1/2s will hammer a bird at 40.

Even most of the birds I have killed w my 10 have been under 35 yards, no need for a sledge hammer when a trim hammer works just fine.

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Have not put any of the TSS stuff on turkey meat, yet. But I have put some on paper. TSS 9's will absolutely make a 40 yard gun out of a .410 bore. And that is the ONLY way you'll accomplish that.

We run the older Federal Heavyweight 7's in our 20 gauges. BAD ASS !!!!! May have to try the TSS stuff in them at some point. But I bought a whole crapload of the Federals up a few years ago when I found out they were soon to be history.

In our 12's and 10's there is.......in my mind, for my style of turkey hunting......zero need for any HTL shot type.


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The 3” 20ga Turkey Ninjas just creamed the target at 40 yards, but so did the 2 3/4” 9s. Big difference on the butt end! Still have two weeks to check results on the real thing. Plan is to go out again in the a.m.

Pretty sure I don’t want to encounter any TSS in my turkey nuggets!


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Originally Posted by Pappy348

Pretty sure I don’t want to encounter any TSS in my turkey nuggets!


I can confirm that.

Bit into a Heavyweight 7 pellet two years ago. Long story short............ I'm in the process of having that tooth removed, now and getting an implant. Talk about f'n HURT !!!!!!! Those pellets have ZERO give.


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I’m using #9 in my 20g. Dropped 2 this year at 25 and 40. The pattern and penetration testing tell me I can go 60 with no problem. Possibly longer but I haven’t tried. I certainly enjoy carrying a 20g around far more than the 12g. My face appreciates the reduction in recoil as well.

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warpig602, what choke tube? I'm using a Carlson's TSS extended .555" with very good results. Also a Tru-Glo ported extended but forget at the moment what the constriction is.


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warpig602, what choke tube? I'm using a Carlson's TSS extended .555" with very good results. Also a Tru-Glo ported extended but forget at the moment what the constriction is.


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