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I read an old post about this round. Lots of haters chimed in about how stupid of an idea it was because of its negligible improvement over the 223AI, 204 brass availability etc. I’m playing with the idea of converting a 1:8” Tikka 223 over to AICS mags and rechambering (If I can’t get it to do what I want in 223). Mostly interested in shooting 75 and 80 grain bullets. I guess there was an article about it in one of the gun rags several years ago. If anyone has a copy of that issue (Shooting Times, I think), I would be happy to pay for a xerox copy of that article. PTG and a gun writer supposedly came up with it. I’d also love to hear of anyone’s experience with this round. It seems to only have about 0.093’ more space at the top of the case body than the 223AI, which ain’t much, for sure, but I still might like to try it out. I’m just be irrational like that.

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Never even heard of it, but you can add me to the Hater list. We already have the .224 Valkyrie and .22 Nosler, and you might toss in the .22 Grendel, all able to launch heavies at good speeds, so aside from being different, and having zero (or thereabouts) reliable data, what’s the point?

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Never heard it called AI, just a 22-204.

Scroll through the pages here in the Varmint Rifles forum, several threads on it.


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multiple post when adding pics

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If your talking about a 22-204, it was a great wildcat when I built mine in 2006. A little more capacity than the 223AI, 30 degree shoulder so it feed slicker than whatever, no custom dies just switch out the guts on a 204 Type S FL bushing die, no fire forming, setting the barrel back to rechamber and will clean up a 223 chamber. I hand re-chambered a 223 barrel with a 22-204 Reamer from PTG.

Works great
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Now if your talking about AI'ing the 204 case to make a 22-204AI it is a waste of time as the body is already straightened and the shoulder is already at 30 degrees and 10 more isn't going to give you enough to offset the the cost of custom dies dies and fireforming.

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Thanks. That makes sense.

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So which is it? A .224 caliber or a .20 Cal?


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What a circle jerk, start with a 222 Remington magnum, neck it down then open it back up and call it something else.

What a great place to build a rubber room.


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What a circle jerk, start with a 222 Remington magnum, neck it down then open it back up and call it something else.

What a great place to build a rubber room.


Have you tried to find any 222 Remington magnum brass lately?


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Easier to neck 204 up.

No fireforming then.


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Actually the 22-204 could be called a 222 Rem Mag Improved (not AI'd) as the shoulder is moved forward. this has been argued to death but I'll re post this pic so you can see the difference.

Center 222 Rem Mag, the two to the right of it are 22-204.(thank alf for the pic)
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yep

222 Rem Mag

same performance as the 223 AI


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Originally Posted by rickt300
Originally Posted by HitnRun
What a circle jerk, start with a 222 Remington magnum, neck it down then open it back up and call it something else.

What a great place to build a rubber room.


Have you tried to find any 222 Remington magnum brass lately?



have some

how much ya need ?


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Originally Posted by erich
Actually the 22-204 could be called a 222 Rem Mag Improved (not AI'd) as the shoulder is moved forward. this has been argued to death but I'll re post this pic so you can see the difference.

Center 222 Rem Mag, the two to the right of it are 22-204.(thank alf for the pic)
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You still don’t get it. Post a picture with a description and the overall difference from beginning to end isn’t even measurable with a micrometer.

Shooting maybe isn’t your long suit, how about a spelling contest.


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Originally Posted by HitnRun
Originally Posted by erich
Actually the 22-204 could be called a 222 Rem Mag Improved (not AI'd) as the shoulder is moved forward. this has been argued to death but I'll re post this pic so you can see the difference.

Center 222 Rem Mag, the two to the right of it are 22-204.(thank alf for the pic)
[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]


You still don’t get it. Post a picture with a description and the overall difference from beginning to end isn’t even measurable with a micrometer.

Shooting maybe isn’t your long suit, how about a spelling contest.

If your micrometer can't measure the difference you probably need a new mic.


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Originally Posted by RJY66

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Originally Posted by rickt300
Originally Posted by HitnRun
What a circle jerk, start with a 222 Remington magnum, neck it down then open it back up and call it something else.

What a great place to build a rubber room.


Have you tried to find any 222 Remington magnum brass lately?

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Originally Posted by HitnRun
What a circle jerk, start with a 222 Remington magnum, neck it down then open it back up and call it something else.

What a great place to build a rubber room.



The 204 case is a good one and the 22-204 is very good. Pictures of the 222Mag and .204 case have been posted many times, not the same at all.. Someone can't or won't see the difference, he's the jerkoff.

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