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I will admit to being ok with not having to deal with that on our pheasant hunts in central SD. 😉
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I like Elmer Keith saying that Man should be the only predator on earth
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I like Elmer Keith saying that Man should be the only predator on earth He is, with a .338 and 250 gr Nosler Partitions.
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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I like Elmer Keith saying that Man should be the only predator on earth He wouldn't have liked the vast numbers of mosquitoes we'd have if the predator bats weren't here eating them. Or the mice without predator snakes and coyotes. We need a lot more predators that will eat starlings.
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Attitudes were a lot different in Elmer's day.
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Yeah but the real question is did the dog make a good retrieve.?
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While it is not on the plains, even 20 years ago it was advised to be cautious when pheasant hunting in the Flathead Valley. I know a few folks who flushed grizzly bears out of a patch of cattails on Nine Pipes and a few other places between Ravalli and Kalispell. It seems every few years or sooner someone has to shoot a griz in self defense at Nine Pipes while pheasant hunting. They've been there a lot longer than 20 years. My first Lab encountered one on a farm just east of Ninepipes around 1980. I didn't see the bear--it was thick cover--but he came running back to me with his tail between his legs and hair up all along his back. I walked along the cover just far enough to find the tracks, with the distinctive claw-marks well in front of the pads. Plus, black bears didn't spook him at all! That was not long after a pheasant hunter got beat up by a grizzly not far from there. And the local kids waiting for school buses were sitting inside vehicles with their parents until the bus showed up, especially on the gravel roads just off the highway. because grizzlies had been showing up regularly
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What a joke 🙄. But the liberals don’t impose any penalties whatsoever for the killing of an unborn baby.
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Local paper says the griz in the Snowy Mtns was euthanized for killing cattle. Made my wife happy.
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Grizzlies move in and out of the Yellowstone Park boundries regularly. Elk guide was killed and hunter also mauled
outside the park in 2018. Bow hunter with just 1 pistol between them. When returning to a kill site or pursuing
wounded/down game in grizzly country, ALL of the party should be armed. Wife of outfitter from Jackson, WY. would
agree fully. Gets serious when guide leaves wife and children behind. Carry a large caliber handgun.
Planned fly fishing trip in WY in July. ALL are carrying 44-45 cal pistols properly loaded. We are the visitors in bear country.
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Black bears are moving west from Arkansas and
Louisiana into east Texas.
I'd imagine a grizzer bar can move around just as
well.
I've learned that just because the Parks and Wildlife
Dept says there's none of whatever in so-and-so place
doesn't necessarily mean it's gospel There have been confirmed black bear sightings in OK as far west as I-35. One was killed just north of Ada a couple years ago and last season they expanded the zone for black bear take.
Hell...Reloading/Shooting are still my favorite things to do,besides play in the box the kids came in.................
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Grizzlies move in and out of the Yellowstone Park boundries regularly. Elk guide was killed and hunter also mauled
outside the park in 2018. Bow hunter with just 1 pistol between them. When returning to a kill site or pursuing
wounded/down game in grizzly country, ALL of the party should be armed. Wife of outfitter from Jackson, WY. would
agree fully. Gets serious when guide leaves wife and children behind. Carry a large caliber handgun.
Planned fly fishing trip in WY in July. ALL are carrying 44-45 cal pistols properly loaded. We are the visitors in bear country.
Idaho allows bow hunters to carry guns. Don't let the IDFG find a bullet hole in your 'bow killed' elk or deer, though. They get real testy about that.
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I like Elmer Keith saying that Man should be the only predator on earth He wouldn't have liked the vast numbers of mosquitoes we'd have if the predator bats weren't here eating them. Or the mice without predator snakes and coyotes. We need a lot more predators that will eat starlings. Will anything eat those darling starlings?
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Black bears are moving west from Arkansas and
Louisiana into east Texas.
I'd imagine a grizzer bar can move around just as
well.
I've learned that just because the Parks and Wildlife
Dept says there's none of whatever in so-and-so place
doesn't necessarily mean it's gospel There have been confirmed black bear sightings in OK as far west as I-35. One was killed just north of Ada a couple years ago and last season they expanded the zone for black bear take. The OK Dept of Wildlife killed one in a backyard in Norman this week!
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Local paper says the griz in the Snowy Mtns was euthanized for killing cattle. Made my wife happy. I’ve noticed lately they don’t get killed for mauling people anymore. Just cattle. The sacred cow.
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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Black bears are moving west from Arkansas and
Louisiana into east Texas.
I'd imagine a grizzer bar can move around just as
well.
I've learned that just because the Parks and Wildlife
Dept says there's none of whatever in so-and-so place
doesn't necessarily mean it's gospel There have been confirmed black bear sightings in OK as far west as I-35. One was killed just north of Ada a couple years ago and last season they expanded the zone for black bear take. The OK Dept of Wildlife killed one in a backyard in Norman this week! I don't doubt that at all. A few of us used to go bum around in the Ouachita and there abouts most every weekend for a few years, and there's things that most people don't ever see from the trails and in their vehicles. Can't hear anything in a big motorhome with the generator clattering all day and night
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Black bears are moving west from Arkansas and
Louisiana into east Texas.
I'd imagine a grizzer bar can move around just as
well.
I've learned that just because the Parks and Wildlife
Dept says there's none of whatever in so-and-so place
doesn't necessarily mean it's gospel There have been confirmed black bear sightings in OK as far west as I-35. One was killed just north of Ada a couple years ago and last season they expanded the zone for black bear take. The OK Dept of Wildlife killed one in a backyard in Norman this week! I don't doubt that at all. A few of us used to go bum around in the Ouachita and there abouts most every weekend for a few years, and there's things that most people don't ever see from the trails and in their vehicles. Can't hear anything in a big motorhome with the generator clattering all day and night There isn’t much civilization between Ada, OK and Hot Springs, AR.
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Don’t send them to CA we just got rid of them 125 years ago. Biggest bear killed in the Continental US was killed in my little valley in rural San Diego county. The cattle Ranch behind me would be perfect habitat 22,000 acre original Spanish land grant so not much changed since then except shooting all the bears. Black bears are still thriving in the mountains in LA county but can’t get past the highways to migrate South. .
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