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I like Hornady's 75 gr. BTHP, shoots great out of my 223 on top of Leverevolution powder. It does give good penetration, so far 3 deer all exits with few fragments in the far side. Not the widest wound channels but dead deer nonetheless. That powder has been on my mind to try, as I have a bit of it. I actually don't like it much in my 30-30 because i use lighter bullets in it. What is a good starting point with it and 75 Hornady's.? I ended up with 26.0 grains getting some 2940 fps after working up to 26.5 grains. 26 grains shot the best and I got no sign of pressure with either charge. I started at 24.0 grains. My barrel is 22 inches long and this is for a Model 7 Remington. I don't know where you would start with a semi auto.
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I like Hornady's 75 gr. BTHP, shoots great out of my 223 on top of Leverevolution powder. It does give good penetration, so far 3 deer all exits with few fragments in the far side. Not the widest wound channels but dead deer nonetheless. That powder has been on my mind to try, as I have a bit of it. I actually don't like it much in my 30-30 because i use lighter bullets in it. What is a good starting point with it and 75 Hornady's.? I ended up with 26.0 grains getting some 2940 fps after working up to 26.5 grains. 26 grains shot the best and I got no sign of pressure with either charge. I started at 24.0 grains. My barrel is 22 inches long and this is for a Model 7 Remington. I don't know where you would start with a semi auto. Thanks I more than Likely will use this Load in my TC Venture II 5.56/223 with 5r rifling, I can seat the bullets way out there, and it's a very accurate rifle. It has plenty of free bore & magazine length so no need to take up powder space with a OAL limit of <2.260. I kind of thought I would start around 25gr. Will also try it in my HBAR with 20" barrel, it shoots Sierras 65gr GK into nickels, but curious because it shoots everything well.
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Good information here. I've been considering Leverevolution powder but didn't have any good data.
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Good information here. I've been considering Leverevolution powder but didn't have any good data. I can see how it gets good reviews like Rick said in other calibers. In my 30-30 it sends the bullets out fast as long as I'm using heavier/normal type bullets- 150gr-160 & heavier bullets, LVR burns complete then. I Like Speers 130gr Hot-Cor for my levers and have had good luck with em so I get a lot of flash and muzzle blast with LVR. So I like AA 2015, AA 2230, H335 etc. and get good accuracy and speed with the 130's that way. Anyway there is some info on the net using LVR in 223/5.56 with heavier bullets done by regular Joes and it's getting good results in a few other calibers also, check 6.5, 6.8 forums. It seems that a lot of LGS's that don't have any other kind of powder have some LVR, at least they used too. LOL
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Only powder I have is TAC, so that's what I'll try.
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Only powder I have is TAC, so that's what I'll try. TAC should work with the 75s. In my experience, they don't like to be pushed fast, accuracy goes away. I never could find an accurate load that pushed them hard, tried a bunch of different powders. I settled on a moderate load of RL 15 that groups nicely.
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None of the manuals show 75 gr lever data. Stick said it worked well at 25.0 grains so I worked up from 24.0 to 24.9 it shoots well in my 1 in 8 16" psa upper. Some guys use more, some guys wouldn't t take a hint from Stick. I did it works. Mb
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None of the manuals show 75 gr lever data. Stick said it worked well at 25.0 grains so I worked up from 24.0 to 24.9 it shoots well in my 1 in 8 16" psa upper. Some guys use more, some guys wouldn't t take a hint from Stick. I did it works. Mb Do you have any serious powder residue problems in your AR using LVR? Have heard it was dirty.
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Only powder I have is TAC, so that's what I'll try. Perfect! It should work good. Johnnys reloading bench on You-tube does 77's with TAC and it is ideal. He also works with LVR and many other powders with 77gr bullets, LVR pushes em out fast,75gr pills will be in the same ball park, I would like to get past 2800fps or so, will see.
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Rickt300 I haven' t burned enough of it yet to have an opinion on that. Mb
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H380 is a good powder for heavier bullets in the 223. one can't exceed SAAMI specs with it in the 223.
one has to take into account, its not real temp impervious or insensitive when it gets really hot. but I plan around that, it will yield high velocity, good accuracy in my 223s and its pressures are low.
I do remember things like with a 55 SP with a charge of 28 grains, its right at 3000 fps MV, yet pressure is in high 30,000s CUP....
I've run 68 gr BTHP and 75 BTHPs with a 27.5 grain charge....with right in the 2900 fps range.
Long ago, I dropped a good sized buck with a 75 BTHP out of a bolt action 223.. Dead right there, complete pass thru, would have dropped any faster if I had used a 30/06.
H380 is a very often overlooked powder in my book.
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Another overlooked powder is Winchester 760 which is a slow burner, but with heavy bullets and a long OAL from a bolt action it might work great.
About LVR it don't burn any dirtier than CFE223 in my 30-30's. Don't think it will be any different in 223/5.56. Looks like charges will be a bit larger with LVR after more study, it gets going at around 26 gr's and up, ww760 which I have used in 223 before and liked it, though compressed with a case full for AR's limited OAL velocities were slower with 65GK's but that was with a OAL of 2.25. In my Bolt action I can take OAL up a good amt, 760 might be perfect. Not for AR's.
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