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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Try blowing it outta your ass. Might help you some.


If the temple were rebuilt, would Israel be a more appealing place for you to live?

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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
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Rebuilding the temple has been in the works for some time.
Control of the dome of the rock is the problem.
Yep.

Won't happen without another war.
Maybe this is the war?


No.

A real war.


We are currently in the biggest war the earth has ever experienced involving good vs evil.

The satanic forces of evil vs our God given constitution, where the evil denies, along with some fire guys (like you) hat we are anything more than animals and without a spirit, thus made in HIS image.

Its a world wide atypical war where if He doesnt win, the earths population will be reduced by the satanists to about 250 million people.

Wear your mask, your heros are pushing their dehumanizing agenda.

Take your shot, your heros want to screw your God given DNA.

Come on AS, tell us its ok.

…12For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this world’s darkness, and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13Therefore take up the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you will be able to stand your ground, and having done everything, to stand. 14Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness arrayed,…

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Originally Posted by Steve
Don't they have to find a red cow first?


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The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.

A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.

"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".

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Those that trust in the false “rapture” doctrine are being set up for failure


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Originally Posted by jaguartx
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Don't they have to find a red cow first?


Jean Ptaske?



Good one.


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Originally Posted by JGRaider
Israel will mop the floor with the dune coons, Chicoms, Russia, and anyone else who attempts to do the same to them.

A country that relies on US taxpayer funded aid to survive will wipe the floor with China , Russia?? You have a pretty wild imagination! Lol






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Jesus didn't speak it directly during his earthly mission, but through His servents that wrote the Bible by Divine Inspiration. Much of the Bible is thus recorded.

His example of the rapture is His Ascention from earth to the clouds. This is similar to that written in First Thessalonians.

There have been other raptures already recorded. Do YOU know which they are?

Why do so many want to discount, or deny, that which is written?

Why do so many wear masks? Many of those are the same that will willingly take the Mark of the Beast, without hesitation or concern.

Think!

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Originally Posted by Stickfight
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Try blowing it outta your ass. Might help you some.


If the temple were rebuilt, would Israel be a more appealing place for you to live?


Why do that when I can come and go as I please.


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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Why do that when I can come and go as I please.


Maybe something to consider for the future.

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Originally Posted by Stickfight
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Why do that when I can come and go as I please.


Maybe something to consider for the future.


Grins !


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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
So many of today's churches are wrapped up in this idea of a rapture. It was invented in the mid 1800's by an English preacher named John Darby. I've never found anything about it in the Bible. I believe what the Bible says and it doesn't say that.
Prior to John Darby...for eighteen and a half centuries...the church had a different view regarding the verses in 1 Thessalonians. They understood em’ to be about Jesus’ second coming. John Darby saw em’ differently. And a lotta people nowadays see em’ as John Darby saw em’. Regardless of how these verses are interpreted...for most people who are followers of Jesus...we all still hope for, and look forward to, Jesus comin’ back again.


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I have also read that the priests are already trained to resume animal sacrifice . And the raising of the red heifers with dna specialists .

https://www.cogwriter.com/news/reli...e-rituals-in-anticipation-of-3rd-temple/

I read about that too. It's been a while since they had full red cattle.
I'm not trying to be argumentative, just asking.
Why haven't they been sacrificing for two thousand years? God didn't even ask for a temple. When we think about it, you'd think they'd be doing it all along.
Before Christ, there were specific instructions for the alter to be made of a pile of rocks or soil. There wasn't much special about it other than what not to do, like no tool work on the stones.


They won't sacrifice without the Temple. The last one was destroyed in 70 A.D. by the Romans. The rebuilding of the Temple is not so to speak of God himself but it is part of the time line. The Temple plays a significant role regardless of not being needed for salvation. Here's some interesting reading too https://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/bible.show/sVerseID/22093/eVerseID/22093

I have asked a man from Israel who claimed to be orthodox why they no longer sacrifice animals.
He said what many evangelicals say.

"The temple must be built first."

When I read my Bible, I do not recall anything about the requirements of having a temple or a particular red heifer before a sacrifice can be offered.


Historically speaking one of the reasons the Jews want the temple site purified might go back to when it was built in the first place. Over time the Pharisees and the Sadducees added to the Mosaic law. Much of it was just plain junk. Keep that in mind when talking about the Mosaic law. What they added was "extra". In reading about the actual construction of the firs temple it's believed, because of Jewish belief, that they felt the ground was not hallowed. The fist temple actually had a foundation that was as large as what was about the ground. They removed dirt that had been exposed to human blood from past conflicts. To them to not do so was taboo.

Also you can find several accounts in the Bible where some sacrifices that were given were not allowed by God and were considered a sin. One example is when King Saul offered a sacrifice after growing tired of waiting on Samuel. If you recall Samuel admonished him for this. So the people responsible for the construction of the Temple today are very aware of all the history involved in the past and it matters to them. The Temple is also strictly Jewish and shares no connection with the New Testament church. We are tied together from the standpoint that it will be part of the end times process but we are not at all in regard to salvation. As you mentioned in another post, Jesus is our sacrifice and all we ever need.

So because of the old law and traditions the Jews want a temple for sacrifices of whatever kind they choose to submit. Whatever the reason it's going to be an elaborate thing and something of great interest to many of us. What it won't ever be is a place for God to dwell in as in times past. We as Christians that are saved by His blood are that dwelling place now!

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Originally Posted by antlers
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So many of today's churches are wrapped up in this idea of a rapture. It was invented in the mid 1800's by an English preacher named John Darby. I've never found anything about it in the Bible. I believe what the Bible says and it doesn't say that.
Prior to John Darby...for eighteen and a half centuries...the church had a different view regarding the verses in 1 Thessalonians. They understood em’ to be about Jesus’ second coming. John Darby saw em’ differently. And a lotta people nowadays see em’ as John Darby saw em’. Regardless of how these verses are interpreted...for most people who are followers of Jesus...we all still hope for, and look forward to, Jesus comin’ back again.


For sure , many believers of Jesus are wrapped up in the idea of the coming rapture. Thankfully, it’s more than just an idea—it’s scriptural. “Rapture” does not appear in Biblical text but comes from the Latin word rapiemur, which means caught up. It is taken from the Greek word harpazo, which means to snatch away or caught away.
Acts 8:39, 2 Cor 12:2, 4, Rev 12:5, and 1 Thess 4:17

Harpazo is the Greek word for rapture and is referred to in 1 Thess 4:17
“Then we which are alive and remain shall be CAUGHT UP together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”

1 Thess mentions the return of Christ and 1 Thess 4:15-17 is the clearest picture of the upcoming rapture. If we (believers) are still alive, we will go up literally in the air to meet Jesus.

1 Corinthians 15:50-57 also refers to the rapture. We will be changed and the dead will be raised incorruptible in the twinkling of an eye.

Luke 17:26-37 also gives us a picture of the rapture by Jesus.

Judgment can’t fall on the world until believers are gone. Luke 17:26-36

God has not appointed His children to wrath. 1 Thess 5:9-10. God will deliver us from His wrath that will be poured out on the earth during the tribulation. The tribulation is wrath, not judgment. Rev 6:16-17. The church is not mentioned during the tribulation.

...but God shows His love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Since, therefore, we have now been justified by His blood, much more shall we be saved by Him from the wrath of God. Romans 5:8-11

God’s own will be spared from the upcoming tribulation’s horrors. Rev 3:10

I don’t envy unbelievers the day after the rapture. God is in control, and Jesus is coming again.

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Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
So many of today's churches are wrapped up in this idea of a rapture. It was invented in the mid 1800's by an English preacher named John Darby. I've never found anything about it in the Bible. I believe what the Bible says and it doesn't say that.
Prior to John Darby...for eighteen and a half centuries...the church had a different view regarding the verses in 1 Thessalonians. They understood em’ to be about Jesus’ second coming. John Darby saw em’ differently. And a lotta people nowadays see em’ as John Darby saw em’. Regardless of how these verses are interpreted...for most people who are followers of Jesus...we all still hope for, and look forward to, Jesus comin’ back again.



It's actually not very hard to understand. With the rapture, we meet our maker in the air, with Jesus making no physical contact with planet earth. At his 2nd coming, Jesus' feet actually touch the ground so He can finish what He started.


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Originally Posted by slumlord
The Third Temple

the end is near

Your reading it wrong...
The only thing ending is the current astronomical age.

https://www.britannica.com/science/precession-of-the-equinoxes


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The distinction still remains that for eighteen and a half centuries these verses were understood to pertain to Jesus’ second coming. Period.

But in the middle of the 1800’s Darby proposed that Jesus would return in two stages; in stage one He would secretly ‘rapture’ the church and those people would suddenly disappear; and some time after that in stage two He would visibly return in all of His glory.

Clearly some adamantly agree with Darby’s position. Others, not so much...or at all.

Regardless, many just want Jesus to come back. Period.


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Originally Posted by antlers
The distinction still remains that for eighteen and a half centuries these verses were understood to pertain to Jesus’ second coming. Period.

But in the middle of the 1800’s Darby proposed that Jesus would return in two stages; in stage one He would secretly ‘rapture’ the church and those people would suddenly disappear; and some time after that in stage two He would visibly return in all of His glory.

Clearly some adamantly agree with Darby’s position. Others, not so much...or at all.

Regardless, many just want Jesus to come back. Period.



Doesn't matter what these people thought, that's irrelevant. What matters is the truth. Whitetail has it nailed.

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The Thessalonians and, at least some of, the Ephesians thought that the earth and people would still be here AFTER 'the coming'............

Paul corrects their 'timing' NOT their understanding of the nature of the return.


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I hope they build a Dan Halen money making tourist attraction Temple all blinged the fugg out on that site after they D8 and D9 bulldoze the fugg outta that POS mosque.

And it starts a giant schit storm world wide.

Just because they can.....

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Remember how pissed Muslims got when Ariel Sharon visited the Dome of the Rock in 2000...?


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