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Looking for ideas. I want to create a nice 200yd deer load.

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Not sure if it is the best, but I am using 55 grain Sierra game king hollow points in my stock AR. It is a dpms. It shoots 3/4" at 100 yds. My son has shot a couple of deer with it using the AR, and we have killed probably 3dozen or so with that bullet in our 222. They are accurate, and have very good on game performance from 25 yds to 200 yds.

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I've had good luck with a 55 gr soft point on antelope and whitetails. Nosler partition is also proven. I've thought about looking at the 60gr nbt but hasn't gone further than that.


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I’d use either the 65 gr Sierra GK or the 64 gr Nosler Bonded Solid Base. And the Nosler Partition might be the best choice if you can find the best accuracy load.

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I figured you were talking about an AR10. RZ.


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The ones I have seen best results from were the 60 Gr. Nosler Partition, the 64 grain Nosler bonded and the Barnes 62 and 70 grain TSX. Of these 4 the 60 grain Partitions seem to kill fastest.

Seen used.......not used myself.

But I would use any of them for deer with full confidence from a 16" AR15

Keeping in mind the 5.56/223 is not a hard long range hitter, so I would limit all shots to 300 and closer. So 1/2 MOA accuracy is not needed at all. If your load will hit a 50 cent piece every time at 100 meters you have all the accuracy you'll need for a 300 yard deer rifle.
I have 2 ARs and one shoots the 60 grain Partition into about 1.4 Inches with a peep sight (no scope) and the other can keep them slightly sub-MOA. About 15/16"
I loaded that ammo for deer and antelope, but so far I have not hunted with either rifle. I just think it's a good idea to have some "deer ammo" in case I want to hunt them with one in the future.

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The 64 grain Win PP has worked well for me for allot of years. Both my AR's have 20" barrels but I don't think that would make a bit of difference in on game performance.

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55 grain Sierra Gameking, 60 grain Nosler Partition.

Have used both in 22-250, work about like anything you would use in a .243/6mm. Prefer the Partiton for bone busting.

55 grain Gameking BTSP is deadly in 223, 22-250 & 220 Swift.


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The 55gr, 62gr and 64gr soft points have killed 100
plus deer and hogs for me the last few years. I think I like the 55gr best though... they all work. Even FMJ's wink


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62 Barnes or a 62 Bear Claw

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For consistent, reliable kills out to 200 yards with an AR15, I would start with a 123gr cup and core in the 6.5 Grendel caliber. 200 hundred yards and a 16" barrel 5.56 is getting a little thin for reliable deer hunting. There are so many better choices, why limit yourself?

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Because that is what he asked about... all the calibers will work if you put it where it needs to be.


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For a .223 at 200 yards just about any bullet will work, just shoot the deer in the front half.


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He asked 16” AR. Never mentioned caliber.

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All of the above. But what will probably kill the fastest at that distance is a 77gr Sierra TMK. In my experience even the bonded lead bullets will stop in the opposite ribs by about 200 yards and also are making a pretty small hole. But the deer will die regardless.

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I should've noted that my AR is a 16" 223/556.

I loaded up some Winchester 64gr Power Points (2750fps) but gave them to my son-in-law (I didn't get to hunt last year). I also worked on a load using the 77gr TMK (2640fps), but I haven't had much range time, and I'm limited by component shortages.

I have just enough IMR8208xbr to probably tune a 77gr TMK load. But I'm a little bit worried about the somewhat low terminal velocity (2250fps @200yds) and whether or not the bullet will fragment enough for a quick kill. I've no on game experience with that bullet.

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i've killed now a fair number of critters with a 77gr tmk

2" less of barrel isnt going to change much for performance.

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https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...223-75-grain-eld-m-for-deer#Post13784426


The above thread also links to another thread on Rokslide that is specifically dedicated to the performance of the sierra 77 TMK which seems to be a great performer. I will try it sometime when availability comes back but in the mean time am using the barnes 63 gr tsx. It has worked well for me so far.

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I’m sold on the 77TMK, it’s a devastating bullet. That said I’ve killed 5 pigs in the last week with 55gr Speer SP, 55gr Ballistic Tips, and the 75 BTHP Hornady, none of them survived.

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The Sierra 65 gr Game King loaded with AA2520or Cfe223, Shooters World Match, or my favorite H4895. Perfect and won't cost ya much.


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