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;Gunner , I have 2 45 caliber molds for paper patch they are KAL Tool 45 TGBS MOLDS. In my 2.1" I use the .442" mold and screw the base plug in to about 1.1" at 420 grs and patch with 9lb onion skin to get .449-.4495". The other 45 TGBS is .440" and adjusted out to 1.46" at 540 grs with 1-60 alloy it's for my Shiloh All Business rifle with an original style chamber that was cut with Orville Loomers reamer. I patch that with Bienfang Vellum they work out to a mile anyway and I like the tin savings of the 1-60 alloy. No that chamber won't take a greaser loaded round. Mb


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probably do better if you put an SWFA on it Gunner


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That's some sweet dreaming about that gun. Were I to find one in any shootable shape I would make her sing with paper patch and proper load. Be Well G500. RZ.


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That'll work MB, i have a couple KAL moulds, both in 45 and 50 cal, that guy cuts a beautiful mould.

LOL G-12, if i knocked the tang and barrel sights off that rifle, railed it with a 6x super chicken, Saint Bagwell would rise from his grave, summons Riflecrank, and i\d be executed post haste! ; ]

Thanks RZ, it's a cool old rifle, more than humbled to be it's caretaker for the time i have left.


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Originally Posted by gunner500
Saint Bagwell would rise from his grave, summons Riflecrank, and i\d be executed post haste! ; ]



And give you a sermon about the penetration capabilities of the 45-70 :-)

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Originally Posted by Biebs
Originally Posted by gunner500
Saint Bagwell would rise from his grave, summons Riflecrank, and i\d be executed post haste! ; ]



And give you a sermon about the penetration capabilities of the 45-70 :-)


LOL yessir Biebs, that would be interwoven into the execution speech ; ]


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A few million dead American Bison can't be wrong about the 45-70. Be Well, RZ.


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Originally Posted by Rustyzipper
A few million dead American Bison can't be wrong about the 45-70. Be Well, RZ.


Dang right RZ, i hit my first American Buffalo with a 45-70 Shiloh Sharps, first shot through the heart at 161 yards, second at around 180 through both shoulders, he tried to take a step and fell on his nose, complete penetration on both bullets from a 530gr paper patch cast at 16 to 1 alloy with a 250 thou flat meplat, the bullets were cast from an Ed Tilton mould Saint Bagwell gave me.


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Good thing the 44 2 1/4 made the world safe enough for the 45 2.1.....


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Originally Posted by Biebs
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Saint Bagwell would rise from his grave, summons Riflecrank, and i\d be executed post haste! ; ]



And give you a sermon about the penetration capabilities of the 45-70 :-)


And I'd be there with a bunch of other folks, watching, cheering them on! laugh

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Originally Posted by Ranch13
Good thing the 44 2 1/4 made the world safe enough for the 45 2.1.....


The little 50-70 Gov cleared the way for all of them ; ]


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Originally Posted by APDDSN0864
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Saint Bagwell would rise from his grave, summons Riflecrank, and i\d be executed post haste! ; ]



And give you a sermon about the penetration capabilities of the 45-70 :-)


And I'd be there with a bunch of other folks, watching, cheering them on! laugh

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LOL, i'd deserve no less.


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Gunner, the Sharps rifle made the west safe for the winchester to be used.


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Our old buddy Saint Bagwell mentioned that many times in his readings to me Magnum Bob, he also spoke of outlaws getting into it with some Buffalo hunters with their Sharps rifles, hiding out in a cabin and even an outhouse, which would have stopped any smokeless rifle of the day provided they could even hit the structures at those ranges, the Buffalo hunters shot through the walls killing them all,


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Yes sir the Sharps was used on a ranch house hideout in the Johnson county war over Wyoming. Also got used on George Excelby gang of horse thieves over at Milesville Montana south of Ekalaka. Man with a Sharps was never under armed some Indians found that out via Sgt John Ryan at the Little Bighorn lottsa good history with the 74 Sharps. Seems like Quannah Parkers bunch had to learn that at Adobe Walls too. The lore of the 74 ain't second to none. Mb


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Damn, imagine being starved to death, thirsty, dodging scorpions and rattlers in an old cabin as those Sharps rifle bullets whizzed through the walls, knowing full well one's gonna get you in a minute! cool

Outlaws lived hard and died hard too it seems.


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Well yeah my edit function timed out before I could correct my mistakes.
Originally Posted by Magnum_Bob
Yes sir the Sharps was used on a ranch house hideout in the Johnson county war over Wyoming. Also got used on George Axelby gang of horse thieves over at Stoneville , Montana where present day Alzada is located south of Ekalaka. Man with a Sharps was never under armed some Indians found that out via Sgt John Ryan at the Little Bighorn lottsa good history with the 74 Sharps. Seems like Quannah Parkers bunch had to learn that at Adobe Walls too. The lore of the 74 ain't second to none. Mb


Anybody interested in reading about the Stoneville shoot out on Valentines day 1884 history net has a good article on it so use you google. Up at Ekalaka they have a neat museum and one of the guns there is a 74 45-110 used in this shoot out by one of the locals. Mb


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Cool stuff MB, Thanks!


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You farming dawn to dusk these days gunner? Mb


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Originally Posted by Magnum_Bob
You farming dawn to dusk these days gunner? Mb


LOL, no on the farming MB, fences are in good order and the cows are wading near shin high grass, all good there, get passed a little yard mowing and vegetable gardening my old consulting work is causing the crazy hours, with guys scattered all over the world, when they all get on the ground somewhere and link up for a conference call no telling what time it will be here.


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