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The relation of the 204 to the 222 Rem Mag is about the same as the 20 Tactical to the 223. The body of the 222 Rem Mag is slightly straightened, shoulder moved forward and the shoulder changed to 30 degrees. Pretty much the 204 could be called the 20-222 Rem Mag Improved(not AI'd)
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Just a note....I'm gonna have a Savage small shank Pac Nor barrel F/S soon...1" at muzzle
20 Vartarg/12 twist....SS SM....11* crown....previous chamber was 20 Practical
Finished length will be 24" (ish) Has always been a good barrel....
Rounds out ? Not sure.......6K maybe
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Ingwe I have an AR in the 20 practical, and a Savage 12 re-barreled to it. The speeds are the same, the powder capacities are so close, I'll call them the same. My decision to wade into the wildcat game was based on brass alone! I have gobs of 223 brass that's easily necked down. At the time, I couldn't get my hands on 204 brass to feed my Remington R-15 chambered in 204. Always thought it would be "cool" to try the wildcats, and I've sold the R-15 in favor of the 20 practical loads. But to answer the question, NO, there's not any radical advantage at all.
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I really like my Cooper Model 38 in 20 Vartarg. I'll be getting a Model 21 back from Cooper Monday after a rebarrel to 20 Vartarg also.
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Thanks John. I felt like that was right but wasn't absolutely sure. Cliff, I know this is an older thread, but since you were the one who posted this, after my comment ahead of it... I picked up a Hornady Universal 20 caliber neck sizing die... quite a while ago... the price was like $20. or less... To make a 20 Practical, I just take a 223 case, run it thru that die and I've got a 20 Practical... That is all I bought. I full length size with the 223 with the spindle removed. I also use the 223 seating die to seat 20 caliber bullets...
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John, that seems too easy. What am I missing?
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Redding offers the more expensive FL or neck bushing dies--for example The most common 20 calibers...20 Vartarg--20 Practical---20-222.. that I use anyhow Use a 221 FB..223 Rem..or the ole 222 Rem & a bushing die with a .227" -.230" bushing FL or neck size & load ammo...seat bullets with the parent cartridge die..simple......or 'Practical' The 20 Tactical is another......but never got involved with it...Along with many others https://www.accurateshooter.com/cartridge-guides/20caliber/
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John, that seems too easy. What am I missing? Probably my simple Hillbilly mechanics, type of brain... I made up the original case that way.... then sent it to the gunsmith and told him to make the barrel fit this dummy cartridge... Guess you'd call that thinking ahead... I've done that on several cartridges I've had Custom Barrels put on for me.... each gunsmith told me they wished every customer would do it that way.. made their lives a lot simpler... I'm pretty good at coming up with simple solutions to problems most of the time...if I can keep from trying to overthink it... at least. who knows if it would chamber in another 20 Practical... but then I'm not shooting someone else's 20 Practical...
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Always had mild curiosity about about a BR case necked down to 20 caliber, but I've got a couple 204's and it never really got past the Curiosity level.
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Always had mild curiosity about about a BR case necked down to 20 caliber, but I've got a couple 204's and it never really got past the Curiosity level. I did a 20 BRX a few years back, I couldnt find anything to complain about?
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Always had mild curiosity about about a BR case necked down to 20 caliber, but I've got a couple 204's and it never really got past the Curiosity level. built a 20 BR Pac Npr -----9 twist to run 55 Bergers P/dogs died no faster.......... that barrel is now a 20-222 & runs 40 V Max...... Fuggin lazer.......
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Always had mild curiosity about about a BR case necked down to 20 caliber, but I've got a couple 204's and it never really got past the Curiosity level. I did a 20 BRX a few years back, I couldnt find anything to complain about? What a cool looking round.. I could be talked into one of those, on just that finished pic alone.... looks fast just sitting there....
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