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Re: Another union post [Re: deflave] #16148085 06/06/21
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Originally Posted by deflave
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I am having a bit of trouble understanding anti union folks if we are to live in a free country where we are able to have free association and the right to make contracts. What is the problem with an association of people with a skill and labor to sell forming a corporation and bargaining with an entity wishing to purchase that skill and labor? What is the problem with a provision in that contract that says the union will furnish the labor and skill and the company will exclusively buy their labor from that source? Why should the government be able to hobble a labor union in Right to Work (for less) states but allow a company to require its labor to join one of the "labor finder" organizations and lose a portion of their pay in fees to the "labor finder" outfit.
You’re also a democrat.
Non sequitur


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Our Union Officers do not stand in the way of the company, when it comes to discipline or discharge of employees who deserve those actions.



Who determines if they deserved it?

First, a grievance committee elected from their peers, second the Local Executive Board of the union. Many grievances never make it past review at the local level.

If the local finds (in their opinion) an actual contract violation has occurred, meetings with management occur and hopefully a resolution is found.

If not, an arbiter will make a determination.

Our Local really hates arbitration, as one arbitration will cost more than our total operating budget for a year. We are not bashful about telling a Union Member he has not a leg to stand on, according to our contract.


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Originally Posted by Hastings
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I am having a bit of trouble understanding anti union folks if we are to live in a free country where we are able to have free association and the right to make contracts. What is the problem with an association of people with a skill and labor to sell forming a corporation and bargaining with an entity wishing to purchase that skill and labor? What is the problem with a provision in that contract that says the union will furnish the labor and skill and the company will exclusively buy their labor from that source? Why should the government be able to hobble a labor union in Right to Work (for less) states but allow a company to require its labor to join one of the "labor finder" organizations and lose a portion of their pay in fees to the "labor finder" outfit.
You’re also a democrat.
Non sequitur


You’ve plainly stated in the past that you’re a registered democrat.

That’s why you defend unions.


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They dont look too scary to me lol

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Feel for her ....seems she'll get her job back.

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Good to see IBEW and AFL_CIO coming out to support them!

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Originally Posted by deflave
You’ve plainly stated in the past that you’re a registered democrat.
That’s why you defend unions.
Yes, in fact I have been a registered Democrat since I registered and voted for Nixon in 1972, so your first statement is a fact.
Refresh my memory, when did I say being a Democrat is why I support unions?
The Republican's behaviors and in particular Louisiana Republicans are the reason I do not join the Republican party. Although I have learned to like our Senator Kennedy.
I think your second statement is your opinion but I'll wait for you to dredge up me saying what you have attributed to me.


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Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by deflave
You’ve plainly stated in the past that you’re a registered democrat.
That’s why you defend unions.
Yes, in fact I have been a registered Democrat since I registered and voted for Nixon in 1972, so your first statement is a fact.
Refresh my memory, when did I say being a Democrat is why I support unions?
The Republican's behaviors and in particular Louisiana Republicans are the reason I do not join the Republican party. Although I have learned to like our Senator Kennedy.
I think your second statement is your opinion but I'll wait for you to dredge up me saying what you have attributed to me.


All I’m trying to say is that Democrats aren’t people.


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I hope you catch covid and have a long slow death.


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Re: Another union post [Re: BillyGoatGruff] #16148759 06/06/21
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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by Hastings
I am having a bit of trouble understanding anti union folks if we are to live in a free country where we are able to have free association and the right to make contracts. What is the problem with an association of people with a skill and labor to sell forming a corporation and bargaining with an entity wishing to purchase that skill and labor? What is the problem with a provision in that contract that says the union will furnish the labor and skill and the company will exclusively buy their labor from that source? Why should the government be able to hobble a labor union in Right to Work (for less) states but allow a company to require its labor to join one of the "labor finder" organizations and lose a portion of their pay in fees to the "labor finder" outfit.


Aye aye comrade. Because it’s that simple. Just folks trying to make a better wage. Nothing more to it. No foreign influence. No communist ideals. Simply working folk trying to make a livable wage.

Well - but - if only the above good stuff were the whole ball game - were actual. I see the point regarding the expressed positive intent of collective bargaining for wages, benefits and conditions of work. All well and good if some non-government employees/companies choose such a path. That would be the supposed "intent" and not much likely to create "anti" attitudes.

However, even a cursory analysis of union leadership mentality and behavior (and therefore union action) during the past 40 or 50 years reveals a progression of intent and behavior quite different than the originally espoused purposes. This drives resentment and opposition.

Is it OK for some folks to be anti-abortion? Anti-gun? Anti-whatever? Why not OK to be anti-union with such cause?


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Originally Posted by pahick
Good to see IBEW and AFL_CIO coming out to support them!

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Originally Posted by pahick
Good to see IBEW and AFL_CIO coming out to support them!

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looks like both of these unions choose cheap illegal labor, open borders over Americans, that drives down middle class wages for for working Americans and they support free healthcare for illegal aliens!!

you are a brain dead union zombie

https://aflcio.org/resolutions/resolution-12-immigration-and-citizenship


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Originally Posted by pahick
Good to see IBEW and AFL_CIO coming out to support them!

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wow now celebrating SEIU and open borders and fewer jobs and lower wages for Americans lmao

https://www.seiu.org/cards/solution...with-comprehensive-immigration-reform/p3


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You really are a simple fück arent you. Voted straight R since the day I could vote(except Arlen Specter..turncoat prick) but you tell me how im supporting open borders and lower wages. Tell me, us all, how my union dollar ruined this country. Ill wait....

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How about a hypothetical analogy? I have good quality diesel fuel to sell. You have a road construction business and are building a super highway in my area. You come to me and want me to guarantee to deliver up to 10,000 gallons a week and give you a firm price for the next year. I say OK that we will make that contract but the deal is that you do not source any diesel from another supplier even if it becomes cheaper and I will guarantee to furnish good quality diesel for $2.80 per gallon delivered to your job site.


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It’s a good thing that the city police in Baton Rouge have a strong union with the Mayor and police chief that they have to answer to.

Their union has won some good suits for wrongful termination, supposed malfeasance, punitive demotions, etc.


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Originally Posted by pahick
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You really are a simple fück arent you. Voted straight R since the day I could vote(except Arlen Specter..turncoat prick) but you tell me how im supporting open borders and lower wages. Tell me, us all, how my union dollar ruined this country. Ill wait....

This list is long, very, very long, but to keep it short and sweet,

Your Union Dollar is used to fund Democrat campaigns, empower Democrat politicians and Support The Socialist Agenda. Far, far more damage than your single (R) vote could ever overcome.

Carry on, but next time you see Biden fall up the stairs, or Schumer and Pelosi speak, look in the mirror and say, “I Help Fund That”.

Carry on.

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Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by pahick
Originally Posted by ribka
lmao




You really are a simple fück arent you. Voted straight R since the day I could vote(except Arlen Specter..turncoat prick) but you tell me how im supporting open borders and lower wages. Tell me, us all, how my union dollar ruined this country. Ill wait....

This list is long, very, very long, but to keep it short and sweet,

Your Union Dollar is used to fund Democrat campaigns, empower Democrat politicians and Support The Socialist Agenda. Far, far more damage than your single (R) vote could ever overcome.

Carry on, but next time you see Biden fall up the stairs, or Schumer and Pelosi speak, look in the mirror and say, “I Help Fund That”.

Carry on.




That's funny coming from a proud citizen of Minnesota. By your own reasoning, you being a part of the great state of Minnesota, you are part of the reason the entire state and all of it's citizens are the most liberal scum of the Earth. By your own simpleton reasoning, you being part of the whole, the entire Raghead voting results are yours simply because you are a citizen by choice oy your great Blue State. Dumpa$$es throwing stones, hilarious. Just look at the Representatives and Senators you people have voted in and the harm they have done and are still trying to do to this nation and the list goes on,

Carry on.

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There is no excuse, in this day, for Unions. They do far more harm than good. The SEIU should be abolished and Government employees forbidden to join any Union. We The People pay their salaries and they all have far too many perks and insanely high wages to have any Union Representation. I do not want Unions having any say in our Government. All Unions support democrat causes and I won't have my dues money go for any of that tripe. When you look at the sad state of the democrat party you are looking at what the Unions helped to build. Are you proud?

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Originally Posted by ChuckKY
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by pahick
Originally Posted by ribka
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You really are a simple fück arent you. Voted straight R since the day I could vote(except Arlen Specter..turncoat prick) but you tell me how im supporting open borders and lower wages. Tell me, us all, how my union dollar ruined this country. Ill wait....

This list is long, very, very long, but to keep it short and sweet,

Your Union Dollar is used to fund Democrat campaigns, empower Democrat politicians and Support The Socialist Agenda. Far, far more damage than your single (R) vote could ever overcome.

Carry on, but next time you see Biden fall up the stairs, or Schumer and Pelosi speak, look in the mirror and say, “I Help Fund That”.

Carry on.




That's funny coming from a proud citizen of Minnesota. By your own reasoning, you being a part of the great state of Minnesota, you are part of the reason the entire state and all of it's citizens are the most liberal scum of the Earth. By your own simpleton reasoning, you being part of the whole, the entire Raghead voting results are yours simply because you are a citizen by choice oy your great Blue State. Dumpa$$es throwing stones, hilarious. Just look at the Representatives and Senators you people have voted in and the harm they have done and are still trying to do to this nation and the list goes on,

Carry on.

Nope, I don’t pay Union dues that fund Socialism, open boarders, the green new deal, but You Do.

Sad thing is you are proud of it. You brag about the fact that you financially support these things, just so you can have your 30 Pieces of Silver.


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I deal with a union and my employees and it's a fairly "benign" union. That said:

1. Unions cater to the lowest common denominator; all they care about is seniority and individual performance be damned.
2. There is a reason as to why union membership has declined from a high percentage in the 30s to less than 8% today
3. Their real motto is "pay me more so I can work less." And if you've ever been around a port and watched line handlers, it's patently obvious...


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Originally Posted by steve4102
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Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by pahick
Originally Posted by ribka
lmao




You really are a simple fück arent you. Voted straight R since the day I could vote(except Arlen Specter..turncoat prick) but you tell me how im supporting open borders and lower wages. Tell me, us all, how my union dollar ruined this country. Ill wait....

This list is long, very, very long, but to keep it short and sweet,

Your Union Dollar is used to fund Democrat campaigns, empower Democrat politicians and Support The Socialist Agenda. Far, far more damage than your single (R) vote could ever overcome.

Carry on, but next time you see Biden fall up the stairs, or Schumer and Pelosi speak, look in the mirror and say, “I Help Fund That”.

Carry on.




That's funny coming from a proud citizen of Minnesota. By your own reasoning, you being a part of the great state of Minnesota, you are part of the reason the entire state and all of it's citizens are the most liberal scum of the Earth. By your own simpleton reasoning, you being part of the whole, the entire Raghead voting results are yours simply because you are a citizen by choice oy your great Blue State. Dumpa$$es throwing stones, hilarious. Just look at the Representatives and Senators you people have voted in and the harm they have done and are still trying to do to this nation and the list goes on,

Carry on.

Nope, I don’t pay Union dues that fund Socialism, open boarders, the green new deal, but You Do.

Sad thing is you are proud of it. You brag about the fact that you financially support these things, just so you can have your 30 Pieces of Silver.


But you and your state as an entity fund and vote for those very things. They only get voted in because of Blue States and their voting majorities such as you and your state which you are a part of. You are a due paying member of the great state of Minnesota and the harm it has done for the past 100 voting years. Shouldn't you be coping and pasting the silly little map of yours about now?

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