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All stinky can do is show pictures of rusting junk in the river but can't show any competitive targets from anywhere. Hey stinky, why won't you take any of the challenges made to you from your local shooters? Afraid you will be shown up as the phoney little mutt you are?


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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
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Some folks come up with some long winded and creative excuses for Leupold sucking.

Fixed.

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It's always easier to blame the scope than to accept that the person squeezing the trigger isn't very good.


So you're telling me my shooting ability wasn't very good when I thought I had a Leupold loosening up inside, but when (during the same shooting session) I then installed another scope on the same rifle my shooting ability improved markedly? The groups certainly did.

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Originally Posted by mathman
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
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Some folks come up with some long winded and creative excuses for Leupold sucking.

Fixed.

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It's always easier to blame the scope than to accept that the person squeezing the trigger isn't very good.


So you're telling me my shooting ability wasn't very good when I thought I had a Leupold loosening up inside, but when (during the same shooting session) I then installed another scope on the same rifle my shooting ability improved markedly? The groups certainly did.


He can't be taken seriously



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Originally Posted by mathman
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Some folks come up with some long winded and creative excuses for Leupold sucking.

Fixed.

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It's always easier to blame the scope than to accept that the person squeezing the trigger isn't very good.


So you're telling me my shooting ability wasn't very good when I thought I had a Leupold loosening up inside, but when (during the same shooting session) I then installed another scope on the same rifle my shooting ability improved markedly? The groups certainly did.


I am not saying that a Leupold will never fail. I am saying it makes for a convenient excuse. Of course none of our resident experts would ever be the cause of poor groups, it's those guys on other forums that can't shoot.

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Little dick is hardly a hard ass. I've given him several oppotunities to meet when I'm in Alaska (if thats where he really lives) to talk to me like that in person. Never even responds. Just another keyboard coward.


you get what so many others don't, or won't see, he isn't a hard ass he is a bloviating, drubken douchebag.


If you look into what he writes (I have him blocked so I don't see it anymore, speaking from the past) there has to be some mental illness involved or maybe caused by addication. Either way, any knowledge he has is overshadowed by his douchebaggery.


I'm no shrink but I strongly suspect there's quite a few pages of the DSM 5 dedicated specifically to him. Guy just ain't right in the head. There's a reason this forum has an ignore feature.


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My LAST Leupold schit the bed in 40 rounds. Sent it back, had it repaired and quickly sold it. Never looked back...

Couple years ago my buddy bought a new tikka 7-08 that wouldn't shoot. Kept claiming the gun was a piece of schit. I told him to yank the scope. He refused because it was a brand new Leupold. Fast forward...after months of dicking with it, he finally tried a new scope and it shot lights out...

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Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
My LAST Leupold schit the bed in 40 rounds. Sent it back, had it repaired and quickly sold it. Never looked back...

Couple years ago my buddy bought a new tikka 7-08 that wouldn't shoot. Kept claiming the gun was a piece of schit. I told him to yank the scope. He refused because it was a brand new Leupold. Fast forward...after months of dicking with it, he finally tried a new scope and it shot lights out...


Seen that scenario play out many times with Leupold, no more as I have moved on



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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by mathman
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Some folks come up with some long winded and creative excuses for Leupold sucking.

Fixed.

grin


It's always easier to blame the scope than to accept that the person squeezing the trigger isn't very good.


So you're telling me my shooting ability wasn't very good when I thought I had a Leupold loosening up inside, but when (during the same shooting session) I then installed another scope on the same rifle my shooting ability improved markedly? The groups certainly did.


I am not saying that a Leupold will never fail. I am saying it makes for a convenient excuse. Of course none of our resident experts would ever be the cause of poor groups, it's those guys on other forums that can't shoot.


Do you shoot at all? I don't know anyone that has a poor shooting weapon that continues anyway and just blames the scope........

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YMMV, but my three VX-5HD 3-15x44 CDS-ZL2 with the Illum. FireDot Duplex I have on my go to hunting rifles are working just as they should.
And I dial them all.

About 3 years ago, there wasn't many choices of hunting scopes with the features I wanted that weren't boat anchors. And even now the only one I would put in this same class is the Vortex Razor HD LHT 3-15x42.

I'm no Leupold fanboy, if I was having trouble they would go down the road.
As of now there is no reason to switch.

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Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Some folks come up with some long winded and creative excuses for Leupold sucking.

Fixed.

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It's always easier to blame the scope than to accept that the person squeezing the trigger isn't very good.

True, but likewise it’s easier to blame one’s shooting ability the worse the person is at shooting. It’s also easier to believe a scope is good the less one shoots and submits said scope to rough use. Those things tend to be correlated.


There's always the option of treating the scope well huh? I typically carry mine into the shooting house and back down. Should I throw it to determine if it works right?

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Originally Posted by Cluggins
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Some folks come up with some long winded and creative excuses for Leupold sucking.

Fixed.

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It's always easier to blame the scope than to accept that the person squeezing the trigger isn't very good.

True, but likewise it’s easier to blame one’s shooting ability the worse the person is at shooting. It’s also easier to believe a scope is good the less one shoots and submits said scope to rough use. Those things tend to be correlated.


There's always the option of treating the scope well huh? I typically carry mine into the shooting house and back down. Should I throw it to determine if it works right?

Repeated recoil and backcountry/mountain/horseback hunting tends to be hard on scopes. If a guy is simply carrying a scoped rifle into the shooting house and back, and limiting the recoil exposure to a box of ammo a year, any scope will likely last for years.

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I don’t hate Leupold. It’s just that quite offering what I want or need in a scope a long time ago.
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Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Repeated recoil and backcountry/mountain/horseback hunting tends to be hard on scopes. If a guy is simply carrying a scoped rifle into the shooting house and back, and limiting the recoil exposure to a box of ammo a year, any scope will likely last for years.



What percentage of Leupold users*** who have never had any trouble at all have round counts on them in the thousands? BTW, I don't mean on top of ten pound 223s either.



***I have used a bunch of Leupolds over a long stretch of time. I still use quite a few. I thought I'd mention that before any irrational fanboy decided to brand me an uninformed "hater".

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Originally Posted by mathman
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Repeated recoil and backcountry/mountain/horseback hunting tends to be hard on scopes. If a guy is simply carrying a scoped rifle into the shooting house and back, and limiting the recoil exposure to a box of ammo a year, any scope will likely last for years.



What percentage of Leupold users*** who have never had any trouble at all have round counts on them in the thousands? BTW, I don't mean on top of ten pound 223s either.



***I have used a bunch of Leupolds over a long stretch of time. I still use quite a few. I thought I'd mention that before any irrational fanboy decided to brand me an uninformed "hater".


What percentage of shooters of any center fire rifles have round counts in the thousands? Hell, we can kill a deer a day for much of the hunting season here, and I still don't burn a box per year between my several rifles.

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Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Originally Posted by Cluggins
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Some folks come up with some long winded and creative excuses for Leupold sucking.

Fixed.

grin


It's always easier to blame the scope than to accept that the person squeezing the trigger isn't very good.

True, but likewise it’s easier to blame one’s shooting ability the worse the person is at shooting. It’s also easier to believe a scope is good the less one shoots and submits said scope to rough use. Those things tend to be correlated.


There's always the option of treating the scope well huh? I typically carry mine into the shooting house and back down. Should I throw it to determine if it works right?

Repeated recoil and backcountry/mountain/horseback hunting tends to be hard on scopes. If a guy is simply carrying a scoped rifle into the shooting house and back, and limiting the recoil exposure to a box of ammo a year, any scope will likely last for years.
I'd say very few people in the Eastern US hunt from horseback. I suspect there are more hunters in the East than West by a good margin. We have as many licensed hunters in NY as Wyoming has total population. Pennsylvania has more licensed hunters than we do.. Never seen one hunting from horseback in the 45 years I've been hunting. It's simply amazing anybody ever killed anything before SWFA and Nightforce came along.

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Originally Posted by Cluggins

What percentage of shooters of any center fire rifles have round counts in the thousands? Hell, we can kill a deer a day for much of the hunting season here, and I still don't burn a box per year between my several rifles.


So then what percentage of shooters have a good basis for evaluating scope reliability?

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Originally Posted by Cluggins

What percentage of shooters of any center fire rifles have round counts in the thousands? Hell, we can kill a deer a day for much of the hunting season here, and I still don't burn a box per year between my several rifles.


So then what percentage of shooters have a good basis for evaluating scope reliability?


What is reliability, what does it take to establish it, and what percentage of shooters ever get enough experience with a single scope to pronounce it reliable?

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Originally Posted by Cluggins
Originally Posted by mathman
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What percentage of shooters of any center fire rifles have round counts in the thousands? Hell, we can kill a deer a day for much of the hunting season here, and I still don't burn a box per year between my several rifles.


So then what percentage of shooters have a good basis for evaluating scope reliability?


What is reliability, what does it take to establish it, and what percentage of shooters ever get enough experience with a single scope to pronounce it reliable?




Give it up homey. They will never accept that Leupold offers great glass, in a lightweight scope that serves the overwhelming majority of owners well over the whole of their lives.

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