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Come on , man! We want to enjoy the fourth of July.
We're all in this together!
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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American by birth; Alaskan by choice.
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Houston Methodist Hospital President and CEO Marc Boom is being idiotically ideological, Houston Methodist cannot be the safest hospital system in the country, and they will be paying a lot of $$ to those they terminate - if they go that far.
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Piss on them, move to Arkansas for jobs arms wide open. We need nurses and doctors and you don’t have to worry about the vaccine!
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A lot of these folks are of child bearing age. It’s a personal decision and I don’t blame them. They being said I’m old and at risk. I willingly took the shot. Hasbeen
hasbeen
(Better a has been than a never was!)
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I'd like to snap his fu cking neck for calling people that don't want to get vaccines "disgruntled employees". I'm vaccinated and I support them, but I completely understand why some don't. Put this worthless POS out of his misery.
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#1 Fight
#2 Win
#3 Countersue and make an example of them.
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On a legal basis, the hospital absolutely can make vaccination a condition of employment. Any lawsuit will fall flat on its face.
I'm not saying I agree, but that's what will happen.
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Hospitals can require their employees to get the flu shot, every year, through the employee health department at the hospital. Or the employee can provide the hospital with documented proof that they received the flu shot somewhere else. They’ve been doing that for years. It has nothing to do with HIPPA. And they have been allowed to function that way.
It looks like some hospitals are taking the same position with the Covid shot/s. Nobody should be allowed to force anyone to choose between their job and taking a vaccine. Be that as it may, it’s common practice for many hospitals when it comes to the flu shot, and it has been for a long time. And I'm not exactly comfortable with the flu one being forced. Even though I choose to get it. But, the flu shot is a vaccine. A process that's 60-70 years old? And one that's had a chance to be thoroughly studied. This shot is not a vaccine by the definition we know. It's new medicine. Unproven, untested, no history.
Parents who say they have good kids..Usually don't!
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And I'm not exactly comfortable with the flu one being forced. Even though I choose to get it. But, the flu shot is a vaccine. A process that's 60-70 years old? And one that's had a chance to be thoroughly studied. This shot is not a vaccine by the definition we know. It's new medicine. Unproven, untested, no history. Agreed.
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“My body, my choice!” Isn’t that what the left has spouted for years?
You only live once, but...if you do it right, once is enough.
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If I lived in that area, I would get my healthcare elsewhere. If management is this obtuse in how it treats its employees regarding an experimental vaccine, there are other choices for healthcare. Once the physicians feel the heat, management can change its tune or go out of business.
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They're a bunch of commie pricks at that hospital. They can get f u c ked.
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On a legal basis, the hospital absolutely can make vaccination a condition of employment. Any lawsuit will fall flat on its face.
I'm not saying I agree, but that's what will happen. We will see, won't we. We are a pro choice nation with a right to privacy.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Jesus: "Take heed that no man deceive you."
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EE! There are a bunch of commie pricks everywhere!
Founder
Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison?
And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools,
Being native burghers of this desert city,
Should in their own confines with forked heads
Have their round haunches gored."
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Where are the unions to protect these frontline workers' rights? lol
Before you get your prettiest pink silk panties and best summer dress in a twist. You may need to find out if they are protected by an agreement between a union and management. I can’t find anything that says they are union. You should be able to Copy and Paste something, I'm sure. I can’t imagine a non union employer in Texas would fire employees over something like this. Has to be fake news.
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"I can't be canceled, because, I don't give a fuuck!"
--- Kid Rock 2022
Holocaust Deniers, the ultimate perverted dipchits: Bristoe, TheRealHawkeye, stophel, Ghostinthemachine, anyone else?
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On a legal basis, the hospital absolutely can make vaccination a condition of employment. Any lawsuit will fall flat on its face.
I'm not saying I agree, but that's what will happen. Perhaps an FDA approved vaccine, but I have my doubts they can force a vaccine still in trial on employees.
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There is no legal question that they can make it a condition of employment.
Anyone can sue anyone for anything, so I'm sure lawsuits might come.
They will all spend a lot of money failing if they do file lawsuits.
Lawyers will let them throw good money after a bad cause.
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There is no legal question that they can make it a condition of employment.
Anyone can sue anyone for anything, so I'm sure lawsuits might come.
They will all spend a lot of money failing if they do file lawsuits.
Lawyers will let them throw good money after a bad cause. Just asking. Are you an attorney with experience in employment cases? Is there case precedence?
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Jesus: "Take heed that no man deceive you."
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There is no legal question that they can make it a condition of employment.
Anyone can sue anyone for anything, so I'm sure lawsuits might come.
They will all spend a lot of money failing if they do file lawsuits.
Lawyers will let them throw good money after a bad cause. Just asking. Are you an attorney with experience in employment cases? Is there case precedence? Nope, I'm not an attorney. I have been involved with some transactions over the past 6 months where this question has come up. Teams of lawyers from Seattle, to New York to Miami to Dallas said there is no legal question here. I would imagine that a health care institution has even further weight to make a case. That is my supposition, because the above I referemced had to do with employment law, but not Healthcare employment. I'm not standing in Methodists corner, just stating what I know.
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