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i forgot about the swaging process. good catch.

never tried the .311 ball method.

Lubed with a mild crimp and ready to roll.

Is there a way now to get into the 22GTC? I have a heavy press for swaging and other loading presses. Right now I can do the quiet 30-30 thing from a 14" Encore barrel. It is going to GA precision soon for threading and have a can for subsonic. It is rated for 300 BO. I'm afraid of the diswasher though, as it is aluminum in construction. So is there an efficient way to go to the 22GTC? Be Well, RZ.

Dunno about efficient. I purchased some brass from Jimy here on the ‘Fire and some more from RCC (expensive), and a fella calls himself Traffer on Cast Boolets made a swage that irons out the wrinkles. It was not at all costly. There are some tools available from .22 Reloader that help, but mostly it’s a catalyst for ingenuity.

http://22lrreloader.com/design-details/

Thanks DD. I have that site bookmarked and forgot about it. Be Well, RZ.

Conversation with Jimy today and there is more commotion in the background on this topic. Seems the brass supply might grow a bit.

DD

Thanks for re-kindling this thread, Dan. I had a Stevens 44 in .22LR drop into my lap with a worn out bore that'll be lined with a new .22RF liner. Was thinking in terms of cutting a .22LR chamber and calling it a day, but by simply fitting a CF breech block in addition to the current one I can make it a dual purpose lead spitter. Other momentous life interruptions had shoved the .22 GTC onto the back burner but you reawakened the idea. Darn you!

For cheap rounds, I shoot cast wheel weight 25 caliber HP bullets in my 256 Win. It's a little more power than what you're talking about. It's a GC mold, but it can be shot either way. It's quite accurate with GC's and 2400 powder.
I picked up those GC's probably in the 70's and have no idea what they cost. I picked up a 7 gallon bucket of wheel weights in Kayenta, Arizona at a gas station - free - it had almost no zinc wheel weights. A local plumber has given me the lead he has been removing for free also - it is a mixture of solder and pretty much pure lead.

With the trend to using the lightest possible cartridge for the largest possible game, who knows, maybe I have a grizzly bear load.

Bear load? Most likely.


The .22 GTC shoots OK as related by photo in previous posts...case in point.



Shooting GC bullets w/o the gas check? I'm guilty.

Doug AKA "rusty zipper" you need to check your private messages !

To any one else that is interested in some cases PM me or email me at jullzoominternet.net for details, I am setting up to make cases for several other members here.

I likely will be making swaging dies and any other tools for this project, if you have questions or ideas get a hold of me or Dan he's the expert of this loony idea, but it is kind of addicting.

Happy shooting, Jim

You guys are remarkable. Seriously.

I'm just bumping this up for the evening crew, any of you with Contenders can get in on the fun by simply buying a 22 barrel, the center firing pin is already there waiting for you to try it out !

Become a loony, its more fun than stomping baby pigs !

Don’t have to have a Contender. Muffin does it with a modified 10/22. I change the barrel, he changes the bolt. Only limits are one’s imagination. 😜

The 10/22 option is one I'm looking at also !

I picked up three 10-22s near a mongth ago:



Bottom one for the sole purpose of 'wrecking' the bolt for the '22RF Alternative' project....

Did some 'relieving' on the bolt this past week, today dropped off the firing pin and 'extension' at the welder, will pick it up in the morning, will take a day or so to fit, and then reharden.........

Maybe a range day next week DD???

Do you have any plans or ideas for a case catcher for this new adventure?

And how about just hard anodizing the bolt face of the 10/22 ?

I just ordered one from Ruger.

I'll be rehardening the firing pin, after the weld.

I haven't given much time to this project yet, but I was thinking of buying ejector pins from Mcmaster / Carr and reworking them as to avoid the heat treat issues.

Well, the 10-22 bolt has been modified and probably should never again be used for rim-fire....

The Firing Pin has been modified and the new nose welded on, reshaped/fitted and can NEVER again be used for rim-fire.

Seven primed cases were struck with the new pin, ALL 'fired' the primer on the first strike, save one, that one needed three strikes.

Suspected that firing pin throw or reach was the issue and disassembled the bolt ............... again!!

Throw or reach NOT the issue, but I did change the geometry of the pin nose, reduced the radius, and achieved a much better pin strike, picture below.



Center primer was the very first run, and while it shows little evidence of an actual pin strike it did go off.

Left and right are pin strikes after re-shaping the pin nose............... much better.

FWIW..... While I am NO gunsmith, and don't claim to be, there is a delicate balance between pin length, and overall pin travel............... likely not news to anyone. As of now, primers only go off when the hammer falls, did much testing letting the bolt fall to be sure there were no slam-fires............ hope that is true with live ammo also.........

More next week, maybe!!!