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Athlon Helos BTR GEN2 2-12x42 AHMR2 FFP IR MIL #214105 is In StockAll the attributes of an ideal designated marksman rifle scope, with features equally suitable for the modern hunter or an operators DMR. This DMR scope is ideally suited for anyone looking for solution to short range and mid-range applications, whether you dial or holdover. First Focal Plane MOA and MIL based reticles are always valid at any magnification. Robustly built with fool-proof turrets now featuring true precision zero stop and locking turrets, the Helos BTR GEN2 2-12x is ready to deploy in any field. First Focal Plane Reticle: First focal plane design allows you to fully utilize specially designed reticles that shrink or grow along with your target as you zoom in or out. These reticles offer quick target engagement at low power while offering precise holdover positions with finer details. Locking Turrets: Locking feature on both elevation and windage turrets allows you to simply pull up the turrets to dial and push down the turrets to lock them in place. This feature gives you a peaceful mind whether you are moving from one station to next during your competition or putting them away for your next hunting trip. Illuminated Reticle: The illuminated reticle provides greater visibility during dusk and dawn and other low ambient light environment. Etched Glass Reticle: Reticle etched on the glass that provides excellent backing support for complex reticle design and offers great durability and much higher shock resistance to recoil Advanced Fully Multicoated: Fully Multicoated optics effectively reduces reflected light and increases the transmission of light giving you a brighter image than normal single coated lenses 6061 T6 Aluminum: The 6061T6 aircraft grade aluminum tube that has exceptional strength and superior mechanical integrity will protect these world class optics no matter what punishment you throw at it. Heat Treated One Piece Tube Construction: Heat treated one piece tube gives the scope extra strength over multi-piece tubes. A one piece tube also is better at keeping moisture out thus keeping your scope fog proof for the life of the product Waterproof: Waterproof to protect the scope in the harshest weather conditions or if accidentally submerged underwater Fog proof: Fog proof to allow you to immediately engage your target when you take your rifle to cold ambient temperature from warm inside Shockproof: Robust mechanical system with special designs on both control and erector system that give you the ultimate recoil resistance to withstand 1000G recoil for 1000 times. Argon Purged: Argon Purging uses the inertia gas with bigger size molecules to purge any moisture out of the tube giving you better waterproofing and thermal stability . Magnification 2-12 Objective Lens Diameter 42 mm Reticle AHMR2 FFP IR MIL, Glass Etched Surface Finish Matte Lens Coating Wide Band Fully Multi-Coated Extra Coating Xtra Protective Coating Tube Material Aircraft Grade Aluminium Tube Diameter 30 mm Eye Relief 3.6 inches Field of View @100 yards 55.7-9.6 feet Click Value 0.1 MIL Adjustment range per rotation 10MIL Total Elevation Adjustment 32MIL Total Windage Adjustment 25MIL Turret Style Exposed Parallax Adjustment Side Focus – 10 yards to infinity Purging Material Argon Length 11.8 inches Weight 25.4 ounces Check out our new Just Arrived Section and our Latest Sales Flyer We appreciate all the orders and support. Please stay well and safe. If there is anything you're looking for please give us a call at 516-217-1000. It is always our pleasure to speak with you. Always give a call to discuss options and what would be best for your needs Have a great day & please follow us on Instagram at gr8fuldoug1 Thank you for your continued support. If there is anything else that I can assist you with please let me know. Doug Camera Land 720 Old Bethpage Road Old Bethpage, NY 11804 516-217-1000 Please visit our web site @ www.cameralandny.com
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Ordered one the other day,for a pending 224 PPC Alaskan Improved build.
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Thanks for the support. I look forward to your opinion
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Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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So Stick, think this reticle would be useable at low power for woods hunting? Mac
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Hey, Stink, how long do you soak them in the drain field before mounting them?
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So Stick, think this reticle would be useable at low power for woods hunting? Mac Given the zoom ratio range,forgiving eyebox and ease of acquisition,along with the FFP etched reticle and killer illumination,it would certainly default to being exceptional by literal design. Schit don't get faster or fhuqking easier than a Red Dot,which it happily transitions into with zoom selection. Hint. If'n I don't get sidetracked,I might build another High RPM 224 Grendel Krunchenticker for 90gr Beer Cans tonight and this glass would host same nicely. The 10yd parallax is an exceedingly good call,as are locking turrets and it's a well thunked out Utility Glass. That assuming it tracks,repeats and holds zero,which has yet to be determined. Hint. Assuming the innards,rate with the outtards,it'll default to a Lightning QUICK Killer,capably covering from Spittin' Distance,to the Transonic Slip,ala 32 Mil's of erector travel.10 Mil's of windage subtension,is certainly nice for Movers. Hint. I reckon I just sold more than a few scopes. Hint...................(grin)
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Yep! Thanks. Your first pic did it!!
Got one on the way!
Enthusiastic to put this on my Tikka Roughtech 6.5CM....Mike
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I think that will be a rather good melding. 19 eye and 30 objective. Hint. Only rattled a couple hunnert rounds through it,but made certain to adjust the erector between every shot and often rolled zoom to boot. It tracks and repeats. Put over 350 Mil's in it between shots at 50yds and was able to hit staples,so things return rather close,despite the enthusiastic winds. Hint. Turrets lock,in their downward position to preclude unwanted input. On top of that,there's a mechanical zero-stop to boot,though I didn't employ it here for R&D. Hint. May slide it aboard a Garrow Hummer Krunchenticker this evening. The fhuqking thing exceeded all expectations,which is a nice "problem" to have. Hint................
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Copy on your report! Roger on the 19/30. Mike
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Using Strelok+. Asked Igor there to add this reticle. His update will show up "when enough changes accumulate" whenever that is. Meantme, anyone know which other Athon has similar subtensions to allow using it as my default in Strelok+ ? Will inquire of Athlon also. Mike
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It's simply a Mil Scale,which correlates to most things worth a fhuqk,as reticles go. Subtensions are money. Whole and half Mil Scale easily discerned and can be broken down to a 1/10 Mil,with no problem. I keep all DOPE Base Ten,in both windage and elevation,which obviously translates to a myriad of mil scale reticles. There's nothing "proprietary" to add,as it's a base language,which doesn't need "translation". Hint. Pick a bullet/speed in a given atmosphere and POA/POI correlations are easily arranged as per whim. Takes seconds. Hint. Most Mil scale turrets are 1/10 Mil "clicks" and they of course extrapolate to the Mil Scale,as do etched reticles scaled same. DOPE doesn't change from scope to scope to scope,due those constants. The amount of subtension opportunity can change(as now pictured above),but not the scale. The half Mil and whole Mil breakdown constant of different Make/Model reticles,is likely a "touch" handy to extrapolate across a very wide course of opportunity. Hint..................(grin)
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Thanks Stick, I did a big "DUH it's MIL's" as soon as I wrote that figured I'd let it go...
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Nawwwww...I'm certain that clarifies multiple things,for more than a few. Seems pretty fhuqking obvious to conjoin a lineal etched scale,that speaks the same language as the turrets and go FFP,so zoom ratio can't skew same. Add illumination and all dots are connected by literal default. Hint. Too bad that Fhuqking Reupold can't have a "DUH!" Moment and connect a dot,either mechanically for zero retention/tracking/repeats,or do a reticle worth a fhuqk,that is aligned with turrets and FFP illuminated. Though you can "score" CDS and a Goat Fhuqk SFP reticle,that can't correlate it's erector. Pretty fhuqking FUNNY! Hint..................
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Scope looks good ... will be interested to see how it holds up. Never would've previously thought of Athlon as the place to go for a scope in this price range.
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Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Yep, a $700+ 3-15 CDS taught me to avoid such schit after only 5 shots...sold it that day and learned my lesson.
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I bought it laughing,figuring it would be a piece of fhuqking schit,like a Optika6 or Burrass...but was/am VERY fhuqking surprised at mechanical integrity. Hint. Based on my one experience, I just ordered two more. . Will be interesting to compare notes! Good shootin'. -Al
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Much to my GREAT "surprise",they are now out of stock. I "wonder" why? Hint.(grin) Ordered (2) more myself,which were forecast to arrive in a "couple" weeks. Hint.....................
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One of mine ordered isn't your cup of tea but it's the tracking/holding zero that's paramount for that one. -Al
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We've got a huge order in with Athlon for more. As soon as they get them into Kansas they will run them through QC and then ship to us and we will get them right out to you. We do have some of the Athlon Helos BTR GEN2 2-12x42 AHMR2 FFP IR MOA #214104 for those of you who prefer MOA (however, we are running low on those too)
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One of mine ordered isn't your cup of tea but it's the tracking/holding zero that's paramount for that one. -Al One needs to be a TRUE Crying Karen Melting Snowflake,to not put mechanics at the top of any/all Boolit Steering Device List(s). Hint. I've yet to see a scope that won't track or repeat,"MAGICALLY" be good at zero retention either. Hint.......................(grin)
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One needs to be a TRUE Crying Karen Melting Snowflake,to not put mechanics at the top of any/all Boolit Steering Device List(s). Hint.
I've yet to see a scope that won't track or repeat,"MAGICALLY" be good at zero retention either. Hint.......................(grin)
Amen. The glass is the ginger bread but it's the mechanicals that put the pancakes on the table. Like we say in The Forbidden Zone.......it doesn't never not work. -Al
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Hope I dont develop a uncontrollable urge to start having fluffy for dinner...
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One needs to be a TRUE Crying Karen Melting Snowflake,to not put mechanics at the top of any/all Boolit Steering Device List(s). Hint.
I've yet to see a scope that won't track or repeat,"MAGICALLY" be good at zero retention either. Hint.......................(grin)
Amen. The glass is the ginger bread but it's the mechanicals that put the pancakes on the table. Like we say in The Forbidden Zone.......it doesn't never not work. -Al You'd better quit making sense,you are going to fhuqk ALOTTA Crying Karens up! Hint.(grin) LAUGHING!................
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You'd better quit making sense,you are going to fhuqk ALOTTA Crying Karens up! Hint.(grin)
LAUGHING!................ I'm whiplashed back to when I tested Swarovski's new 36X BR scope before it was released to the Unwashed Masses......
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You'd better quit making sense,you are going to fhuqk ALOTTA Crying Karens up! Hint.(grin)
LAUGHING!................ I'm whiplashed back to when I tested Swarovski's new 36X BR scope before it was released to the Unwashed Masses...... In all candor and if only in fairness,Swaro has yet to make a scope worth a fhuqk. Given their intents and direction,they likely never will either. Hint.(grin) Bless their hearts for trying though. Laughing!.......................
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I've yet to see a scope that won't track or repeat,"MAGICALLY" be good at zero retention either. Hint........(grin) As to whether Athlon's mechanicals will prove up to the task over the long haul.....who knows? As you know, I'm not adverse to testing stuff and letting the results speak for themselves! I learned long ago to never say never about gear, especially optics. The first time I looked at a NightForce, I couldn't imagine a scenario where I'd own one. I was happy to be proven wrong. The 12-42 BR scope was one of the best investments I ever made in my competitive shooting gear. Good shootin'. -Al
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NightFarce has come a long ways,but it has taken them a very long while to do so. They finally have some reticles,that are viable. Parallax and erector travel,remain hurdles for them. Hint.....................
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Got it mounted up. Can't shoot til Monday. I like!
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Dangle some pics. Hint..............
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I only have email with this setup unfortunately. State of play with Fire...
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I managed to get a pic posted in Image Gallery but can't get it any further. Athlon on Tikka.
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Looks good Click on the picture in image gallery and open it in a new tab then copy the URL
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Thanks CR.https://postimg.cc/fScXFthm
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I wish swfa would take notes and turn their 1-6 hd into a 2-12. I'd be down for about 5.
If these work they'd be great but I sure wouldn't want to drop one . . .
Bushnells too busy building 36x telescopes to be king of the hill. Fingers cross they bring back the 3-12 illuminated.
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I don't like where it's made (hate to beat that drum, but there it is....), but it checks a LOT of boxes that "American" (however you wish to define that) scope outfits are not.
It also does it at a price point that is pretty amazing. The SWFA 3-15 FFP is around $700, and the Athlon is illuminated, with a more "feature filled" reticle.
If it'll stand up to Stick throwing it on rocks and leaving it in the creek, I'll be putting one on my next rig. For that matter, I need to look at the larger models in the Helos line, I'm looking to upgrade the XTRII on my .22BR........
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I don't like where it's made either but if it's good enough for Stick I'll get over it.
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I already have an Ares BTR gen 2 on my 22 creedmoor. Does great
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I already have an Ares BTR gen 2 on my 22 creedmoor. Does great I've got one of those waiting on a 6mm arc build. That's a good looking setup there. Another very nice Athlon scope is the Midas Tac.
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For those that eschew Chinese made scopes, Sightron (a Japanese Company) makes a very nice Illuminated FFP w/Zero Stop in a 3-16x42mm flavor in both MIL or MOA (for the MIL challanged) with matching Reticles / Adjustments. At under 25 oz, and under $700. green backs it might be worth a look. Sightron HQ is local to me so I get to see and fondle quite a few of them first hand at the range. No, I don't own this one, but just passing along an idea for consideration. https://sightron.com/collections/ffp-riflescopes/products/s-tac-ffp-3-16x42-zero-stop
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For those that eschew Chinese made scopes, Sightron (a Japanese Company) makes a very nice Illuminated FFP w/Zero Stop in a 3-16x42mm flavor in both MIL or MOA (for the MIL challanged) with matching Reticles / Adjustments. At under 25 oz, and under $700. green backs it might be worth a look. Sightron HQ is local to me so I get to see and fondle quite a few of them first hand at the range. No, I don't own this one, but just passing along an idea for consideration. https://sightron.com/collections/ffp-riflescopes/products/s-tac-ffp-3-16x42-zero-stopThat one has intrigued me a bit. Made in the Philippines, but can be had for under $400. May have to get my hands on one.
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For those that eschew Chinese made scopes, Sightron (a Japanese Company) makes a very nice Illuminated FFP w/Zero Stop in a 3-16x42mm flavor in both MIL or MOA (for the MIL challanged) with matching Reticles / Adjustments. At under 25 oz, and under $700. green backs it might be worth a look. Sightron HQ is local to me so I get to see and fondle quite a few of them first hand at the range. No, I don't own this one, but just passing along an idea for consideration. https://sightron.com/collections/ffp-riflescopes/products/s-tac-ffp-3-16x42-zero-stopThat one has intrigued me a bit. Made in the Philippines, but can be had for under $400. May have to get my hands on one. Chris, Be careful there's an older model Sightron S-Tac 3-16x42mm, Non FFP and Non Zero stop , Capped turrets that sells in the sub $400. range. These new one's are well north of $500. most places. New one: https://www.opticsplanet.com/sightron-s-tac-3-16x42mm-riflescope.htmlOld One: https://www.opticsplanet.com/sightron-s-tac-30mm-3-16x42-riflescope.html
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I wasn't suggesting buying from Optics planet, it was just the first site I found that had both models on board. It was an example, no more no less.....
And further, adding a product to your cart to get a lower price does not come up on search when you look for prices. The regular price for both at those sites you listed is $579.00 . And notice I said "most places", but some other folks may not be as savvy to notice that there was an older model and newer FFP ZStop model. And that's what I was trying to illustrate.
If you all already knew, good for you, mate....
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I just received mine. Looks very robust. Clicks on the turrets are tactile and audible. Looks like a well built product but we will see. It will go in my Sako 85 (another challenge with the ejection issues), but this 7mm rem mag is infact very accurate.
Kind of surprised there was no battery included but no biggie.
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This thread cost me some money - mine arrived yesterday and will be going on a CA Mesa 308...
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Kind of surprised there was no battery included but no biggie. I noted the lack of battery also and thought WTF? Reached in my desk drawer, pulled one out and was off to the races - no biggie!
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Got any more at that price?
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Got any more at that price? It is always our pleasure to discuss products and prices with all the members here. Please give a call, 516-217-1000.
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Just placed an order for one of these.
They are out of stock, but are expecting a shipment soon.
Thank you Doug and Steve at Camra Land for the great pricing.
And, thank you Stick for the awesome photos of the reticle. I have never had one of these in my hand. Your photography skills made the difference.
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And, thank you Stick for the awesome photos of the reticle. I have never had one of these in my hand. Your photography skills made the difference. GB Yep...a pic is indeed worth a thousand words. Good shootin'. -Al
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Any word on the scheduled arrival,of the next batch?
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Larry did you do any further testing as far as tracking go???
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Like above, when is arrival of new shipment....seems to be the concern.
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I spoke with my Athlon rep and he expects a shipment "shortly". As soon as we get tracking info on the incoming shipment we'll update
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Any word on the scheduled arrival,of the next batch?
Obliged..................... When did you last SWOON over a Leupold?
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I do gotta laugh, Ol bacon throat and his lieca saga, comes on here bitching about Doug and camerland, crying and bitching talkin [bleep] about the BEST optics outfit in the us, now your sucking ass like the bitch you are. LarryO, you are such a fuucking cull…. Wow+p 😂😂
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Larry did you do any further testing as far as tracking go??? And you fotis??? Really? Just wow…
Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
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Larry did you do any further testing as far as tracking go??? And you fotis??? Really? Just wow… I asked for info. That's all. It's not like we're going to be swapping spit in the shower... 😂
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I do gotta laugh, Ol bacon throat and his lieca saga, comes on here bitching about Doug and camerland, crying and bitching talkin [bleep] about the BEST optics outfit in the us, now your sucking ass like the bitch you are. LarryO, you are such a fuucking cull…. Wow+p 😂😂 TRUMP WON TOO the lies are being brought to light #TurkeyNeck
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I will say that if these hold up they are proof positive that the chicoms are spying on us. How else could they know the exact scope I want on my next build......?
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Dear judman and Bob, y’all are definitely gay for big stick. Y’all seem to follow him around on here everywhere. If you both would quit flapping your gums for just a second and open your ears y’all might learn a little something! Lucky for you imagination and pretend are free! Laughing......
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Dear judman and Bob, y’all are definitely gay for big stick. Y’all seem to follow him around on here everywhere. If you both would quit flapping your gums for just a second and open your ears y’all might learn a little something! Lucky for you imagination and pretend are free! Laughing...... How much rent do you charge for space in your head?? LOL
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Dicklicker 3notsogreat, I feel sorry for you, that you have to come here to “learn” things… 😂😂
Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
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Dear judman and Bob, y’all are definitely gay for big stick. Y’all seem to follow him around on here everywhere. If you both would quit flapping your gums for just a second and open your ears y’all might learn a little something! Lucky for you imagination and pretend are free! Laughing...... Gee, I wonder who this could be.
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Dear judman and Bob, y’all are definitely gay for big stick. Y’all seem to follow him around on here everywhere. If you both would quit flapping your gums for just a second and open your ears y’all might learn a little something! Lucky for you imagination and pretend are free! Laughing...... Gee, I wonder who this could be. Maybe Cuz
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Dear judman and Bob, y’all are definitely gay for big stick. Y’all seem to follow him around on here everywhere. If you both would quit flapping your gums for just a second and open your ears y’all might learn a little something! Lucky for you imagination and pretend are free! Laughing...... How much rent do you charge for space in your head?? LOL Only $19.95 a month... that’s probably cheaper than your monthly viagra bill!
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Dicklicker 3notsogreat, I feel sorry for you, that you have to come here to “learn” things… 😂😂 I’ve actually learned quite a bit on this sight from folks like big stick, dingo duk, and form. You on the other hand? Everything I’ve read from you has been useless
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Dear judman and Bob, y’all are definitely gay for big stick. Y’all seem to follow him around on here everywhere. If you both would quit flapping your gums for just a second and open your ears y’all might learn a little something! Lucky for you imagination and pretend are free! Laughing...... Gee, I wonder who this could be. I guarantee none of y’all know who I am. I just joined cause it seems like a cool place around here and there’s a *few* knowledgeable people that I can glean some information from. I also joined just to poke fun at the old farts that are stuck in their fuddy ways LOL
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Dicklicker 3notsogreat, I feel sorry for you, that you have to come here to “learn” things… 😂😂 I’ve actually learned quite a bit on this sight from folks like big stick, dingo duk, and form. You on the other hand? Everything I’ve read from you has been useless You’re welcome. 👍
Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
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Dicklicker 3notsogreat, I feel sorry for you, that you have to come here to “learn” things… 😂😂 I’ve actually learned quite a bit on this sight from folks like big stick, dingo duk, and form. You on the other hand? Everything I’ve read from you has been useless Did you choose your salvage stock yet?? Haha
Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
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Dicklicker 3notsogreat, I feel sorry for you, that you have to come here to “learn” things… 😂😂 I’ve actually learned quite a bit on this sight from folks like big stick, dingo duk, and form. You on the other hand? Everything I’ve read from you has been useless Did you choose your salvage stock yet?? Haha Yeah I did actually. Think I’m just gonna ditch the DBM and go with a McMillan A-3 sporter.
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Got my hands on one of these today and first impressions are great. I've never liked a scope at this price point this much. Really considering getting a 4-20 to go with it. Putting this 2-12 on a Suppressed 12" 6.5 Grendel SBR that should be a whitetail killing machine.
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Dicklicker 3notsogreat, I feel sorry for you, that you have to come here to “learn” things… 😂😂 I’ve actually learned quite a bit on this sight from folks like big stick, dingo duk, and form. You on the other hand? Everything I’ve read from you has been useless How’s things dicklicker? What have you gleened from the (3) hardchargers you named? Is your salvage shootin good? 😘
Ping pong balls for the win. Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
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Any availability updates?..................
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Just spoke with Athlon and they say August 31st
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Great news! Thanks for the update.
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Doug is the 31st the ship date or when you expect them to arrive?
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The 31st is the day Athlon believes they are arriving into them. They still have their quality control check and then shipping to us
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Ok great thanks. Won't be ordering tomorrow. Probably a week or two out? My son is wanting to order one. THanks
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Ok great thanks. Won't be ordering tomorrow. Probably a week or two out? My son is wanting to order one. THanks Our Birthday/Labor Day Weekend Sale starts at Midnight 01 today and runs through Monday so if you know you want one that's the time to buy
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Any availability updates?.................. No, turkey neck
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Doug, I would like to try a couple of these when they come in , but I’m not seeing them available on your website.
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Spoke with Athlon again last night and we will get a couple of nice shipments in the next week or so (enough to clear all preorders and have scopes on the shelf ready to ship) so now while all the Atlon Scopes are part of our Sale through September 6th nowa the time to place an order
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Happy Birthday Doug. Got my order placed.
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Happy Birthday Doug. Got my order placed. Thank you for the kind birthday wish and the support
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Thanks Doug. I've got a couple ordered.
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Just wanted to give a heads up. These scopes are back in stock. All pre-orders are shipping today and we still have a few left for those who are interested in getting one Thanks for your patience while we were awaiting this shipment
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Curiosity got the best of me.
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I am sorry we do not export riflescopes
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Going on sale again soon?
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Going on sale again soon? It would be a pleasure to discuss this with you if you have the time to give us a call, 516-217-1000. Thanks and have a great weekend
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Got mine today.. Even has a battery thrown in. First impression. Heavy duty. I get a chance to ring it out alittle I'll write about it Thanks Doug.
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Look forward to the write up, dave
Expecting mine tomorrow.
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Finally gave mine a work out. Very impressed. Tracks great and clear optics. Seems to be built like a tank.
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I received my two earlier this week.
Mounted one on my Christensen MPR in 308.
After a little adjustment of the cheek piece I fell in lust [not love] at this point yet.
Love the reticle, got the mil. As Stick pointed out daylight bright illumination even in No. Nevada near equinox light is visible.
Hopefully Monday I'll get to wring it out a bit if the smoke gods comply. County range closes if the air is bad. Sucks it's been that way since the end of June.
Only about 1.2 million acres burned within 100 air miles.
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Taking two of them to the range this morning. Excited to test them out.
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I see a parcel setting aside,which surely must have (2) more 2-12's in it.
They's everything,that Reupold ain't and I've been shooting THE fhuqk outta same. Hint...............
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If the local gunsmith is done cobbling today, I'll get one of these mounted this eve to air-out over the weekend. Lawrence, this scope had better not suck.
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Just kidding! Hint..............(grin)
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Sighted in mine today on a Fieldcraft 6.5 Creedmoor. Only a few rounds through it but everything seems to work asit should.
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Really like the two I have. Have a 4-20 sitting waiting on parts for a 17 WSM AR. Just finished up a 6.5 Grendel SBR for Whitetail hunting that should be fun.
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I can see where a Krunchenticker Whizzum would be plum handy and a rather good time. Hint.(grin) Piston driven? Hint. Or Straight Blowback? Hint. Have heard Good Thangs about Krunchenticker Hummers too(with Locking lugs). Hint.......................(grin)
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Yes sir, my upper from Jard has been on order for a week now, they told me it'd only be 2-3 weeks. The 6.5G SBR I posted is also piston driven, though just the Superlative retrofit kit. Works great though.
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I really like the looks of that reticle with the more open center section. Some of the designs with .5mil marks around the intersection do look a bit busy to me when using the center as an aiming point.
Now with even more aplomb
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My buddy just killed his first big game animal with my Savage 243 sporting the athlon mentioned. He said it was so clear at 250 yd he thought he was right next to him.
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anyone used this scope on something with a bit more recoil? Really interested in Big Sticks thoughts on how this would live on a 6.5lb 7wsm. Im guessing it will be fine from Sticks' tests and glowing report, one things for sure, he doesnt have time for [bleep] optics.
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Support more Chyna made optics LOL
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10,800 posts in 16mos.... lol
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[quote=acooper1983]10,800 posts in 16mos.... lol
Has "loser" written all over him. [/quoteI IN CAPITAL LETTERS.
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im just wondering who sock puppet this is.
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Just ordered one for the fast twist lightweight 22/250 I've got one on my 8 twist Tikka 22-250. Fast twist not so lightweight but I think it will be a shooter.
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Just ordered one for the fast twist lightweight 22/250 I've got one on my 8 twist Tikka 22-250. Fast twist not so lightweight but I think it will be a shooter. Fair chance
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Support more Chyna made optics LOL ^^^THIS^^^
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Spent a fair bit of time behind it over the last couple of days and I am really impressed, tracks like it is on rails and ticks all the boxes
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Spent a fair bit of time behind it over the last couple of days and I am really impressed, tracks like it is on rails and ticks all the boxes I'm trying one out at the moment on a Sig Cross. It does seem like a well-designed scope for its intended uses. Looks clear, solidly built, and easy to get behind. I'll need to get some additional time in before I can say with certainty if it's a good dual-use scope for the range and for hunting. Pretty much got it zeroed at 200 and went hunting. Got this guy the other evening and I did find that the lower two illumination settings are about right for shots at dusk. Too much brightness, coupled with the circle around the dot, can obscure too much target for proper definition of the animal and the dot when at medium-power. Less illumination and a bit more magnification was dandy for this shot at 150yds or so. I hope to spend more time with the scope in the woods and on the range this fall.
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Thanks to BigStick’s pictures and experience with this scope I figured I’ll give it a try..👍
Cameraland, as usual, always gets the nod.
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I realized that the MOA version and the Mil version list the same reticle but they appear different. It look like the MOA is more of a crosshair white the Mil version is a dot. In all my research and obsessing I didn’t notice that until after I made the purchase and I don’t want the crosshair, I prefer the dot for this application. I called Cameraland this morning and with little effort they swapped me out for the Mil reticle. Just wanted to give Cameraland another shout-out for great service! 👍
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Big Stick, looking pretty sharp my friend. Wishing you all the best.
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Thanks to BigStick’s pictures and experience with this scope I figured I’ll give it a try..👍
Cameraland, as usual, always gets the nod. Yeah, that was a big help.
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Personally I don't care if it's made in China or Pluto. I bought it and it works great it's got two antelope under its belt so far.
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Thanks to BigStick’s pictures and experience with this scope I figured I’ll give it a try..👍
Cameraland, as usual, always gets the nod. I've been happy with mine and just ordered another one from Cameraland...
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Thanks to BigStick’s pictures and experience with this scope I figured I’ll give it a try..👍
Cameraland, as usual, always gets the nod. I've been happy with mine and just ordered another one from Cameraland... I might be getting another one as well. So far I’m liking everything about it. It’s mounted on my Whelen and it’s only got about 15 rounds shot from under it but after the holidays it’ll get put through its paces and a good workout. Thanks to everyone that shared their experience with this scope. 👍
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Would you say I have a plethora of pinatas?
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I'm late to the party. Held out as the "made in China" was off putting. I have to say, aside from origins I'm impressed. Reticle is spot on and usable throughout the magnification range. Excellent illumination (day light bright). Turret clicks feel good.
Will need to slam it on a rifle and give it a whirl.
I hate sheit made in China... but think I may very well get another.
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I hate sheit made in China... but think I may very well get another.
Not a shot at you, but since this encapsulates the “Chinese goods” predicament rather succinctly it’s worth a quote.
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I hate sheit made in China... but think I may very well get another.
Not a shot at you, but since this encapsulates the “Chinese goods” predicament rather succinctly it’s worth a quote. I thought your quote was spot on Jeff Well, rumor has it Mueller drops his report soon. Clearly, the public will end up seeing it one way or the other; I don't think Barr is a Trump patsy and there's certainly significant, shall we say, public interest in transparency here.
We already know via his own lawyer's screwup that Trump's campaign manager (Manafort) actively colluded. Whether the conspiracy to defraud America extended to Donald Trump Sr. is really the only question left at this point. We also know that POTUS and basically everyone around him lied their asses off and attempted to impede and, let's just use the word, obstruct the investigation at every turn. Not a good look, that. Not what, oh I don't know, "innocent people" generally do?
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I called Neil last week and he was kind enough to give me the original sale price after busting my ballz
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Much to my GREAT "surprise",they are now out of stock. I "wonder" why? Hint.(grin) Ordered (2) more myself,which were forecast to arrive in a "couple" weeks. Hint..................... Hey Stick! How are these scopes working out for you? Do you still like them? Are you using them on hunting rifles or something else? What is your comparison to Super Chickens? I am thinking about getting some to put on a 3 Tikka hunting rifles. (.22LR, .223 and .308) for hunting locally in mixed woods/fields hunting. I appreciate your time.
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We just received another shipment of these about 10 minutes ago
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I have generally avoided PRC optics except where they are the only option for a particular feature set (e.g. 1x micro prism scopes; special reticles). But in this case, despite this scope's provenance, the whole package is very appealing. I have an LRTSi 3-12x and a Sig Tango 6 2-12x and have long have been looking for that magnification with an LRHS-style hunting reticle. I also have an LRHSi 4.5-18x and although I like that scope, the Gen 2 from GAP didn't appeal to me for several reasons. I haven't been actively following Athlon's offerings since I'd picked up a Cronus BTR 4.5-29x four years ago. I am satisfied that this is a very unique item that fills a niche that doesn't attract much attention, if any, from other manufacturers. CL says they are out of stock on the MIL version, so I went looking elsewhere and picked up four of them for ridiculously good value this weekend. I did order an S-Tac 3-16x FFP from CL on Friday to replace an S-Tac 3-16x SFP on a 17 HMR rifle. Hopefully that somewhat makes it up to CL.
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I hear good hangs. Hint...............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Haha! That reminds me of some folks on Rimfire Central that stacked it deep with closeout Weavers from Natchez.
If there's one thing I've learned with scopes, most designs will eventually be discontinued and won't necessarily be replaced by something better. If you find something you like...buy it up!!!
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I mounted mine tonight. Put one on a 6.5x47. Took a total of four shots . Two at 25 yards .. bore sighter on a large black dot. One shot at 100 yards. Went high. Clicked to the hit. Last shot went in the bull. Easy peasy. Dave
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I mounted mine tonight. Put one on a 6.5x47. Took a total of four shots . Two at 25 yards .. bore sighter on a large black dot. One shot at 100 yards. Went high. Clicked to the hit. Last shot went in the bull. Easy peasy. Dave Sounds like my initial session after mounting it on my 7-08.
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I have been on the Athlon bang wagon for a few years now... I like them... a lot... the Midas Tac models
Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Hahahaah .... rent free...
Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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urfibber, I undoubtedly control your EVERY thought and move,less charge...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Copngratulations?!? There's zero need for you to quantify your Heel Nipping Brokedicktidue,as you "live" vicariously via my verbage,punctuation and Splendid Pixels. Hint. Bless your heart for Lying,Crying,Whining and Trying. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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urfibber, I undoubtedly control your EVERY thought and move,less charge...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Copngratulations?!? There's zero need for you to quantify your Heel Nipping Brokedicktidue,as you "live" vicariously via my verbage,punctuation and Splendid Pixels. Hint. Bless your heart for Lying,Crying,Whining and Trying. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!................ As you like to say... hint.... I wasn't posting a response to you.... I was adding my experience for the benefit of other posters... Projection is your strong suite.... but carry on , you little yard gnome...
Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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urfibber, Quantifying that you are a Lying Piece Of Clueless Schit,to "benefit" others,is fhuqking HILARIOUS...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!? Pardon wares that exist and the very WELL founded Insecurities of your's,which they fuel. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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I mounted mine tonight. Put one on a 6.5x47. Took a total of four shots . Two at 25 yards .. bore sighter on a large black dot. One shot at 100 yards. Went high. Clicked to the hit. Last shot went in the bull. Easy peasy. Dave Sounds like my initial session after mounting it on my 7-08. I like the center dot. Alot. I set the gun up for DonKnows SIL. Young fella was struggling with a Savage. 60 rounds of under half MOA goodness at 300 yards is ready for his season. Thinking it will up his odds quite a bit. dave
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I mounted mine tonight. Put one on a 6.5x47. Took a total of four shots . Two at 25 yards .. bore sighter on a large black dot. One shot at 100 yards. Went high. Clicked to the hit. Last shot went in the bull. Easy peasy. Dave Sounds like my initial session after mounting it on my 7-08. I like the center dot. Alot. I set the gun up for DonKnows SIL. Young fella was struggling with a Savage. 60 rounds of under half MOA goodness at 300 yards is ready for his season. Thinking it will up his odds quite a bit. dave I have a couple getting ready to get mounted. I have gotten a few of them so far and they still piss me off they work so well for the money.
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I have one going on my 7mm bee Euromark
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I have been on the Athlon bang wagon for a few years now... I like them... a lot... the Midas Tac models I really like my Midas Tac so far. The first one would not hold zero. Their fine customer service in Kansas took care of me and sent out a replacement. They actually have an in-house lab that can test returned scopes, to make sure that they are indeed bad. Mine was. I sent the other one back to check it out, also, but that turned out to be my fault.
You did not "seen" anything, you "saw" it. A "creek" has water in it, a "crick" is what you get in your neck. Liberals with guns are nothing but hypocrites.
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I hear good hangs. Hint............... Got enough scopes there stick? Dave
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Barely have a few hundred. Hint..............(grin)
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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It will be interesting to see what happens when I get it up over 1000 rounds. None of my old loopies made it past that... dave
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It's a shame,that Reupold can't make a scope as good. Hint..............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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It's a shame,that Reupold can't make a scope as good. Hint.............. how do you compare the Athlon Helos to the Bushnell LRHS 3-12?
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I MUCH prefer the LRTS/i's to any/all things LRHS/i. Gen 3 reticle for me,as I don't care for the Gen 2. Hint.
The 2-12x has more erector travel than the '12x LRTS/i and better parallax control. The LRTS/i's in Gen 3 have more reticle for subtension holdovers,or when going ALL in,with a maxed out erector and the reticle atop same for LR Pursuits. Hint.
I prefer the 2-12's illumination. Mechanics are a wash,as I've yet to puke either,but have so the LRHSi. Hint.
The BTR Gen2 2-12x is a BAD Bitch and there's several in my crummy now,as I go look for Bucks and gun some come-up's in this NASTY High Pressure front. Hint.................(grin)
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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CL says they are out of stock on the MIL version, so I went looking elsewhere and picked up four of them for ridiculously good value this weekend. Where?
But as for me and my house we will serve the Lord. Joshua 24:15 I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. Phil. 4:13
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[quote=Cotay]CL says they are out of stock on the MIL version, so I went looking elsewhere and picked up four of them for ridiculously good value this weekend. In stock now
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Aww heck...after seeing Big Stick's Helos stash, I went ahead and ordered a 5th example. I promised my wife I'd be selling off some of my existing SFP scopes now.
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I MUCH prefer the LRTS/i's to any/all things LRHS/i. Gen 3 reticle for me,as I don't care for the Gen 2. Hint.
The 2-12x has more erector travel than the '12x LRTS/i and better parallax control. The LRTS/i's in Gen 3 have more reticle for subtension holdovers,or when going ALL in,with a maxed out erector and the reticle atop same for LR Pursuits. Hint.
I prefer the 2-12's illumination. Mechanics are a wash,as I've yet to puke either,but have so the LRHSi. Hint.
The BTR Gen2 2-12x is a BAD Bitch and there's several in my crummy now,as I go look for Bucks and gun some come-up's in this NASTY High Pressure front. Hint.................(grin) Thanks, I'll give the helos a try, the price is attractive as well.
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Aww heck...after seeing Big Stick's Helos stash, I went ahead and ordered a 5th example. I promised my wife I'd be selling off some of my existing SFP scopes now. I did the same thing - recently ordered 2 to replace/sell off a couple others...
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I received my first of five of these and unfortunately I'll be sending it in for an exchange. The elevation turret is way too difficult to unlock, even with considerable leverage. My wife and 13 year old son couldn't move it at all. I have three more arriving on Monday, so hopefully those have better turrets. As for the optic itself, I'm otherwise extremely impressed with the overall package. If the others are as nice optically and mechanically (other than the elevation turret of course), I'll be very tempted to order a few more of these for future rifles. EDIT: I took the turret cap off and looked more closely at the elevation drum. It seems that someone tightened the drum set screws and actually stripped them out in the process. They even gouged the drum in the process, which had been hidden by the zero stop ring. I have a difficult time believing that they would have done this at the factory, but everything appeared to be new and untouched. I suppose this could have been previously sold and meticulously repackaged to appear as new. Anyway, it's packaged up and going back on Monday. So as not to create any confusion, this example was not sold to me by Doug....maybe that was my first mistake.
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Still saving up for one. LOL
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I received my first of five of these and unfortunately I'll be sending it in for an exchange. The elevation turret is way too difficult to unlock, even with considerable leverage. My wife and 13 year old son couldn't move it at all. I have three more arriving on Monday, so hopefully those have better turrets. As for the optic itself, I'm otherwise extremely impressed with the overall package. If the others are as nice optically and mechanically (other than the elevation turret of course), I'll be very tempted to order a few more of these for future rifles. EDIT: I took the turret cap off and looked more closely at the elevation drum. It seems that someone tightened the drum set screws and actually stripped them out in the process. They even gouged the drum in the process, which had been hidden by the zero stop ring. I have a difficult time believing that they would have done this at the factory, but everything appeared to be new and untouched. I suppose this could have been previously sold and meticulously repackaged to appear as new. Anyway, it's packaged up and going back on Monday. So as not to create any confusion, this example was not sold to me by Doug....maybe that was my first mistake. I've had 2 of these scopes for a while now and the turrets have been very consistent - locking/unlocking positively with a crisp snap. On the 2 I just received, the windage turret on 1 locked/unlocked with virtually no resistance such that there is no way it would stay locked under field use. I sent it back and just received an exchange. The windage turret works great and the elevation turret definitely requires more effort to lock/unlock than my other 3. I'm developing the feeling that current models may have more variation than earlier models in the 'feel' of the turrets on locking/unlocking. The click adjustments seem to be very consistent - crisp and positive on all 4 that I have. Would be interesting to hear Big Stick's take on this - sounds like he's had his hands on a large number of these...
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I received my first of five of these and unfortunately I'll be sending it in for an exchange. The elevation turret is way too difficult to unlock, even with considerable leverage. My wife and 13 year old son couldn't move it at all. I have three more arriving on Monday, so hopefully those have better turrets. As for the optic itself, I'm otherwise extremely impressed with the overall package. If the others are as nice optically and mechanically (other than the elevation turret of course), I'll be very tempted to order a few more of these for future rifles. EDIT: I took the turret cap off and looked more closely at the elevation drum. It seems that someone tightened the drum set screws and actually stripped them out in the process. They even gouged the drum in the process, which had been hidden by the zero stop ring. I have a difficult time believing that they would have done this at the factory, but everything appeared to be new and untouched. I suppose this could have been previously sold and meticulously repackaged to appear as new. Anyway, it's packaged up and going back on Monday. So as not to create any confusion, this example was not sold to me by Doug....maybe that was my first mistake. I've had 2 of these scopes for a while now and the turrets have been very consistent - locking/unlocking positively with a crisp snap. On the 2 I just received, the windage turret on 1 locked/unlocked with virtually no resistance such that there is no way it would stay locked under field use. I sent it back and just received an exchange. The windage turret works great and the elevation turret definitely requires more effort to lock/unlock than my other 3. I'm developing the feeling that current models may have more variation than earlier models in the 'feel' of the turrets on locking/unlocking. The click adjustments seem to be very consistent - crisp and positive on all 4 that I have. Would be interesting to hear Big Stick's take on this - sounds like he's had his hands on a large number of these... The windage on my first one was about perfect...could have maybe used a little more tension, but I wouldn't have worried about it opening on its own. I'm hoping that the three arriving today are more usable and consistent. These are extremely popular from what I'm seeing, so I hope QC isn't being sacrificed to meet anticipated holiday demand. Everything else was fantastic about the scope. I would also be interested to hear from Big Stick about his turret consistency. EDIT: The three new scopes arrived today and they all have properly working elevation turrets. The lock/unlock tension varies in intensity on these three also, but they are all still easily manipulated. Windage turrets are all fine as well and actually all feel about the same. I checked two of the drums and they are pristine with no signs of tampering like on the first one. I'm now more inclined to believe that the first scope was repackaged and sold as new after someone tried to adjust it themselves. One of the three has a slightly gritty parallax adjustment, but otherwise all of them are mechanically sound at first blush. I will be keeping these and hope the other two are just as good. Overall I'm very pleased with these scopes so far, but now comes the real test of reliability once I get them mounted up and shoot.
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I've got a MIL model in the classifieds
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I've never seen an issue and I've a goodly herd,with a number of pards falling suit. Hint.
I don't know of anyone,who had a turret unlock unwantonly,whether windage or elevation. The feature set is simplistic and foolproof,with no Fluff and such things are warmly welcomed on Killing Glass. Hint.
Tracking,repeats and zero retention are in and of themselves,rather fhuqking liberating. Sighting a rifle in,with just one or two shots,fhuqks with heads and sets the stage for all things warm/fuzzy. Conjoin same,with a coupla pokes nearing the Transonic Slip and it is ASSUREDLY like "cheating". Hint.
Earliest versions had (3) locking screws on the zero stop,the newest have (5). I've not seen any of it matter,but 5 is fhuqking soothinger. Hint.(grin)
Had a coupla visiting pards just peel out and they are MUCHLY rethinking their wares. Pulled a 1" Reupold 4.5-14x in LW's off one's CA Kreedmire and gave him Burris 2pc 1913's,SWFA 30mm Low's and a 6x MQ. Also Started At The Fhuqking Start with said rifle's feed/function issues in BDL guise,which was just as easy of a fix. Frosted all nicely,with Sig 6K 8x32mm BRF's,crushing their Geovids. I always WARN folks that "it's going to be an EXPENSIVE trip...after you see how much your schit sucks" and this panned out no differently. One didn't even bother to bring his 257 Wby on the 2nd day,after gunning a 21" FC squirting .620 BC's at 3050fps. The weather was tough enough,that a FULL understanding of holding a FFP reticle for same,was hammered by literal default. Hint. LAUGHING!
There's method to The Madness and Scope Pukes simply happen at a rate of greater than 10:1 to Rifle Pukes. The 2-12X's are rather fhuqking Skookum and a flying head start to POA/POI sanctity. Hint.
Though a couple more Athlon parcels arrived in yesterday's Mail and after a cup of coffee,I'll be curious to see if one is their new LW Bitch. Hint.
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Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Nope...more Athlon Gen2 4-16x MIL/MIL's. Hint..............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Trying to take advantage of the November deals...
If you needed to tuck one away in the stash for a future rifle - centerfire, 0-500yds, range and field, 30cal or smaller.... This 2-12 or a plain jane 6x42 swfa at 219?
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6x42 MQ's don't exist currently and the 2-12x Gen2 MIL/MIL Lit Bitch does. I'm expecting delivery of (4) more 2-12x's and personally,I wouldn't fhuqking linger on locking in same. Hint.
Was shooting more than a few them out to 1600yds,these last few days. Nothing bigger than 7mm bore size and nothing smaller than .224". Hint..............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Nope...more Athlon Gen2 4-16x MIL/MIL's. Hint.............. Midas Tacs?
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6x42 MQ's don't exist currently and the 2-12x Gen2 MIL/MIL Lit Bitch does. I'm expecting delivery of (4) more 2-12x's and personally,I wouldn't fhuqking linger on locking in same. Hint.
Was shooting more than a few them out to 1600yds,these last few days. Nothing bigger than 7mm bore size and nothing smaller than .224". Hint.............. Thank you
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Nope,I straight fhuqked up the descriptor...more Barkin' Arken Gen2 4-16x MIL/MIL's. Hint.............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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Question: Can someone describe the quality of he glass? I’m wondering if it is worth stepping up to the Ares HD glass. Is the Helos glass comparable to VX3HD for brightness/clarity?
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Question: Can someone describe the quality of he glass? I’m wondering if it is worth stepping up to the Ares HD glass. Is the Helos glass comparable to VX3HD for brightness/clarity? It's at least as good as the 4.5-14x42 VX3. After 9 days of whitetail hunting and shooting hogs, I never had a problem finding the reticle up to last legal shooting light. It tracked perfectly as well.
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Question: Can someone describe the quality of he glass? I’m wondering if it is worth stepping up to the Ares HD glass. Is the Helos glass comparable to VX3HD for brightness/clarity? Can you see the reticle in hunting situations on lower power with the Ares? Everything go have heard DJ they are thin.
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The Gen2 2-12's glass fhuqks everyone up,because it is stupid good and probably shouldn't be. Hint.
Illumination happily lies in wait,should the situation dictate same. The upside is,there ain't NO downside or concessions and nothing is warmer/fuzzier,than a scope that tracks,repeats and holds zero. Hint..............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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The Gen2 2-12's glass fhuqks everyone up,because it is stupid good and probably shouldn't be. Hint.
Illumination happily lies in wait,should the situation dictate same. The upside is,there ain't NO downside or concessions and nothing is warmer/fuzzier,than a scope that tracks,repeats and holds zero. Hint.............. +1 BUT... you should add that the Eye Box is "Average" at best. Tremendous value regardless.
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Thanks for the glass description gents, I ordered one. Now I need to figure out what to mount it on. Might replace a SWFA 1x6 on an AR15 (I think it would get a lil more use with higher magnification). The 1x6 works but I’ve had a hard time warming up to it. Also thinking a 7mm08 might be a winning combination. First world problems….
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i really like these scopes, but I just had one fail yesterday. to be fair, it had 480 rounds in a 6.5lb 7wsm. ill be sending this one back for repair/replacement, and putting it on something that doesnt kit quite so bad.
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i really like these scopes, but I just had one fail yesterday. to be fair, it had 480 rounds in a 6.5lb 7wsm. ill be sending this one back for repair/replacement, and putting it on something that doesnt kit quite so bad. What failed on it?
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i really like these scopes, but I just had one fail yesterday. to be fair, it had 480 rounds in a 6.5lb 7wsm. ill be sending this one back for repair/replacement, and putting it on something that doesnt kit quite so bad. What failed on it? I’d be interested as well. I have one of these in my 4.8 pound 338-06 for a while now and it’s held up fine and the extra 25 oz on top def isn’t a bad thing. Be interested to hear how the one above failed.
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im not real sure, it wont hold zero. had a chip shot at 315 on a doe, hit high and left (like across the hams) ended up running her down and finishing her, took the rifle to the range on our farm and i couldnt hit a standard target with it @100y. Verified everything was tight via inchlb tq wrench to specs. i absolutely hammered with this rifle all summer out to 1000y. i even switch reload lots to make sure i hadnt messed up there. It had been flawless as over last week at the range. No visible damage to the scope, only "rough" its seen was riding in the back of a side by side
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So I'm exchanging two of my Helos' due to serious amounts of dust in the interior of the objective lens. It's definitely not on the outside and three are perfectly clear. I hadn't tested illumination with all of these in the dark, but did so tonight. One of these lights up like a thousand stars...almost like it wasn't even assembled in a clean room. Additionally, the illumination bleed is absolutely horrible. The other only has a few specs and very little light bleed, but I'm not confident it won't get worse if there is a bad seal somewhere. The fact that two out of 5 have this is very concerning. I still love the scope and am exchanging for two of the same.
If you buy these, be sure to immediately check for dust and turret mechanicals. That means 3 out of 5 of these that have had to go back...QC appears to be lacking at Athlon I'm sorry to say or I just have really bad luck.
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