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Re: Hornady 147 ELDM 6.5's [Re: gunzo] #16154821 06/08/21
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I got into some bad lots last year: at least I hope that is the deal, though some people have me wondering if it is my rifle instead. Shooting and loading is a chore for me that I kind of dread, so I haven't played around or looked for anything else for this rifle yet. I just switched to a different rifle for last season. I really want to like these things, and will try a few more lots when I can find some. I haven't exactly been looking too hard though.

Take this for what it is worth....2 separate lots, 8 twist at 2880 FPS so I'm not exactly running them past their design parameters. Everyone else seems to have much better results with them.

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I don't dismiss that concern, T. I had some weird stuff happen at 1000+ yards with factory ammo, one time. And I don't have an explanation for it.

Good point, bringing it up.

Re: Hornady 147 ELDM 6.5's [Re: T_Inman] #16155847 06/09/21
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I still think you have a particularly rough throat, or something similar, that is hard on bullets.

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Originally Posted by T_Inman
I got into some bad lots last year: at least I hope that is the deal, though some people have me wondering if it is my rifle instead. Shooting and loading is a chore for me that I kind of dread, so I haven't played around or looked for anything else for this rifle yet. I just switched to a different rifle for last season. I really want to like these things, and will try a few more lots when I can find some. I haven't exactly been looking too hard though.

Take this for what it is worth....2 separate lots, 8 twist at 2880 FPS so I'm not exactly running them past their design parameters. Everyone else seems to have much better results with them.

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Re: Hornady 147 ELDM 6.5's [Re: gunzo] #16156400 06/09/21
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Yes, same rifle.
The AMAXs were fine through it and worked fine on a few elk. The barrel was throughly cleaned after the first 147s blew up, thinking that may have had something to do with it but they still were blowing up after the cleaning and with both lots of bullets.

I didn't play with the beger VLDs after the deep, copper cleaning though. Maybe I should.

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Might be worth running a few Tubbs Final finish through it. It might smooth out the throat some if that is what causing it.


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Originally Posted by T_Inman
Yes, same rifle.
The AMAXs were fine through it and worked fine on a few elk. The barrel was throughly cleaned after the first 147s blew up, thinking that may have had something to do with it but they still were blowing up after the cleaning and with both lots of bullets.

I didn't play with the beger VLDs after the deep, copper cleaning though. Maybe I should.


I agree with Jordan. Your barrel has something going on no doubt....


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Re: Hornady 147 ELDM 6.5's [Re: T_Inman] #16158051 06/10/21
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Originally Posted by T_Inman
I got into some bad lots last year: at least I hope that is the deal, though some people have me wondering if it is my rifle instead. Shooting and loading is a chore for me that I kind of dread, so I haven't played around or looked for anything else for this rifle yet. I just switched to a different rifle for last season. I really want to like these things, and will try a few more lots when I can find some. I haven't exactly been looking too hard though.

Take this for what it is worth....2 separate lots, 8 twist at 2880 FPS so I'm not exactly running them past their design parameters. Everyone else seems to have much better results with them.

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Damn Dude! We have some common DNA. I too dread reloading. Some people get off on it as a relaxing experience but its just drudgery to me. I do it because I like bug hole groups, not for a relaxing experience. I get too uptight worrying about every step. I've been reloading for 40 years and still can't relax while doing it.

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Re: Hornady 147 ELDM 6.5's [Re: gunzo] #16160244 06/10/21
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I've heard several reports of Hornady match bullets having jacket failures when driven hard out of hot, fast twist match rifle barrels. Probably the reason Berger target bullets have thicker jackets than their hunting versions...

I do like the old A-Maxes out of my 6.5-06 for Coues deer.

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Originally Posted by MikeS
I've heard several reports of Hornady match bullets having jacket failures when driven hard out of hot, fast twist match rifle barrels. Probably the reason Berger target bullets have thicker jackets than their hunting versions...


Yeah, T_Inman isn't the only one to report a problem. There's mention of it in different forums with various speculation as to actual cause. Might not be widespread, but I don't think it can be dismissed.

I believe some of my boxes of component bullets specified 8-twist. The newer boxes specify 8.5-twist. Not sure if it was a typo error, or Horny's attempt to help mitigate the issue with tight bores. I have no idea.

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Was all that necessary?

You forgot the fishing pole.in the pic.

Rub it in, you gottem, I don't .

LOL.

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My experience hunting has been limited to one antelope doe. Specs are a 1-8" twist , 2965 fps muzzle velocity , range was 475 yds. This load will shoot .25" out of my gun. My concern came when I shot a wee high and back on this doe. She went right down so I was not concerned. When I got to her , I seen I had hit just at the spine, but a little lower in more meat than bone. The spine was not broken and I could see the bullet in the entrance wound. the jacket was all that was there and weighed 40 some grains. The thought of using it on game again has left me. I generally use 130gr JLK's or Bergers and will continue to use them instead..... after hearing about jacket failures , I will restrict the Hornadys to practice and such. They were cheaper and shoot great but 2-3" of penetration is not acceptable.....

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Not good. Any chance the bullet impacted something before hitting the doe?

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