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Originally Posted by FatCity67
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I hope I have the fortitude to drive into the mountains and blow my brains out When I get to that point.


I already got my spot picked out.


I have the revolver for my last day.

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Originally Posted by Beaver10
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I hope I have the fortitude to drive into the mountains and blow my brains out When I get to that point.


I already got my spot picked out.


I have the revolver for my last day.

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I also the last bottle of Whisky Dad and I drank from. Couple of good swigs left.


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Originally Posted by FatCity67
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I hope I have the fortitude to drive into the mountains and blow my brains out When I get to that point.


I already got my spot picked out.


I have the revolver for my last day.

šŸ¦«


I also the last bottle of Whisky Dad and I drank from. Couple of good swigs left.


To those happier days, when itā€™s time.

Salud

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I read your post to my wife who owns a caregiving company that helps the elderly stay in their home for as long as they're able. Years of experience helping elderly folks in the sunset of their lives.

She said as long as he's sharp don't take away his independence, maybe get a company co-driver on his sales trips for safety if he's unsteady.
Talk him into using a cane for steadiness.

Good luck, Roger.

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Originally Posted by Nollij
STX, I have a similar situation.

My Dad turned 81 yesterday. He has a 2017 Ram 2500 he bought new that now has 160K on it. I worry about him being on the road as much as he is getting in an accident, but he still drives safely for the most part. He does most of the parts running for me, and it's a huge help. It keeps me working instead of being on the road.
The big Ram truck gives him a bit more confidence than he maybe should have now. I'll tell him he needs to get a smaller truck(yeah right).

My Mom turned in her keys last summer, and now Dad is driving her around. It's a hell of a predicament; I want them to stay busy, but I don't want them hurt, or accidentally hurting someone else. They both have age related issues that they work hard to ignore, and I don't blame them.

The folks live 300 yards from me, so I am fortunate to be able to keep an eye on things most days.
I have been taking it day by day for a few years now, and so far, so good. I hope you find a workable solution that keeps your Dad mobile.


Looking at your avatar, I'm thinking your dad needs to cool his jets! LOL

One good suggestion is for your dad to hire a driver. They can keep an eye on him while he's working.


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Originally Posted by Beaver10
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Originally Posted by jackmountain
I hope I have the fortitude to drive into the mountains and blow my brains out When I get to that point.


I already got my spot picked out.


I have the revolver for my last day.

šŸ¦«


I also the last bottle of Whisky Dad and I drank from. Couple of good swigs left.


To those happier days, when itā€™s time.

Salud

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Easier said than done. My Gpaw made my mother promise him to put him out of his misery and she couldn't do it. But she did manage to pull her own breathing tubes out after saying goodbye to all of us.
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Originally Posted by stxhunter
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What does he say when you talk about it together?

Oh, I'm Ok.


Just about have to take his word for it......for now.


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Before doing anything, I'd strongly recommend getting your dad's medications checked out first in case there might be over/under dosage, side-affects of, and/or problematic interactions with any he's taking that could be affecting him adversely.

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Been there. Leave as much Independence as you can, but take over what you need to. As long as you truly have your parent's best interest, it's time to take a load off their shoulders , and do what needs doing.

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Originally Posted by Daveinjax
Taking away his independence is likely the equivalent of gut shooting him. Unless heā€™s a danger to others he needs to keep on going. If heā€™s still working at 83 itā€™s because itā€™s important to him and gives him a reason to get out of bed every day.



I agree. Yeah, he might well hurt himself. Chances are he has before just like all of us, and he's likely fully cognizant of the facts and possibilities. The way I see it is that taking his freedom would be like burying him alive because he'd feel like you're no longer allowing him to live. Personally, I'd be inclined to let him keep his freedom until he becomes an unintentional threat to someone else's well being.

I watched my dad deteriorate in assisted living. If I had it to do over again I'd delay his entrance to assisted living much longer.

It's a tough deal with no easy choices. You have good friends, so rely on them as needed.


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Sounds like the first step oughta be having a good old fashioned chat with those brothers of yours.

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Thanks for the replies, I'm having my brothers come over Monday evening so I can talk to them.


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Took care of my dad for his last 6 years, it wasn't easy tho, he still drive, but not much, and only in the daytime .couldn't cook or get his meds right and he was also 83, I got home from work and found him in his chair, had a big stroke his 3rd, he pasted 2 days later. Wish you LUCK Buddy.


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Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by Dave_in_WV
Talk to his doctor privately and ask him/her for guidance.

think That's what I'm going to do.



When my mother's dementia became a factor where she should not drive, etc., her primary care physician was very instrumental in helping us out. My mother actually worked for him for as long as I can remember so on some levels she respected his advice more than anyone else in the world. It was at times annoying because she would often take this or that medication "because Dr. Ted said". They were almost family. My mother saw his kids grow up (graduations, weddings, etc.). So I had a conversation with him in advance of her annual checkup and he agreed to play the bad cop. That was at least 10 years ago but I remember the conversation like it was yesterday...

Dr. Ted "So how is your memory lately?"
Mom "Not as good as it used to be.
Dr. Ted "Well i'm going to order some tests. But until the results come back, I'd don't want you driving"
Mom "Ok"

He accomplished in 3 seconds what we could not do in 3 months.

Blessings to you and your dad. I know you have tried to look at it from his perspective. There are only a few things left that he has, not the least of which is his freedom. Letting go is tough. Tough.

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Originally Posted by Fireball2
Roger, my mom is 87 and we just recently got a call from neighbors and her doctor all saying she's falling down alot. We talked to her about it and she just blew it off, but it kept happening. Friends and neighbors were starting to feel burdened with checking in on her, bless their hearts they do try, but it was becoming too much to ask. Our fear was that she would fall and die in her house and no one would know for days, Happened to her brother, my uncle, and no one found him for two weeks. Two weeks in the summer with no air conditioning. He was a puddle on the floor.

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Originally Posted by Morewood
I read your post to my wife who owns a caregiving company that helps the elderly stay in their home for as long as they're able. Years of experience helping elderly folks in the sunset of their lives.

She said as long as he's sharp don't take away his independence, maybe get a company co-driver on his sales trips for safety if he's unsteady.
Talk him into using a cane for steadiness.

Good luck, Roger.

Thanks for the input. Sounds like good advice to me.

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My departed Mother-in-law was in a very good home at her last.

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Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Originally Posted by FatCity67
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Originally Posted by FatCity67
Originally Posted by jackmountain
I hope I have the fortitude to drive into the mountains and blow my brains out When I get to that point.


I already got my spot picked out.


I have the revolver for my last day.

šŸ¦«


I also the last bottle of Whisky Dad and I drank from. Couple of good swigs left.


To those happier days, when itā€™s time.

Salud

šŸ¦«

Easier said than done. My Gpaw made my mother promise him to put him out of his misery and she couldn't do it. But she did manage to pull her own breathing tubes out after saying goodbye to all of us.
Last hunting season and hopefully this won't be my dad's last buck.
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I worry when he's out on his own.


Payback Buddy payback. he'll probably never be able to get even for all the worry you caused him. grin

This kind of stuff is tuff to figure out and it varies greatly from person to person.

I'll give you an example of what happened to Unk.

Unk was a very active guy and liked to keep busy whether he was fishing, fixing or doing whatever. Unk got to be weak and unstable and his kids started to get on his ass and tell him what he could and couldn't do.

This went on for awhile and the more I watched it the more it pissed me off, I told one of them that they should just leave the oldman alone and shut the fuqk up, this pissed him off and he started to crawl all over my ass, I asked him what he would like for his dad, did he want him to live longer and be miserable or did he want him to be happy and possibly live a little less time?

He walked away and they all backed off of him and he pretty much does as he pleases again, they did get him an auto inflate life jacket and made him promise to wear it when he goes out in the boat, probably a good idea anyways.

It's your Pa Roger and I know you love him and want the best for him, but please just don't make him miserable.



Spot on, buddy.

My almost 81 year old dad lost his wife a couple of years ago and has been listless ever since. (He really wants to find another ladyfriend)

He's been wintering in Florida the last few years and coming back to Michigan in the spring. He's talked about finding a house with water access so he can fish. My sister and her husband have been discouraging him because of his age. I say find and buy the house and live out his time the way that makes him happy. Take away the things that make a man content and you kill him.


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Originally Posted by FatCity67
There are no right answers Roger. Doing what you believe is best. Sorry bout your Pops.


Yeah, this Roger !


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