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Re: Gravel. [Re: Beaver10] #16164394 06/12/21
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Originally Posted by Beaver10
3/4 minus, washed.

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This and rounded as opposed to sub angular to angular in shape. Washed means no fines but with no fines the rounded 3/4" will not settle and lock in places , they'll act like marbles. BUT IT WILL HAVE HIGHEST PERMEABILITY. If you want it to stay in place yet be permeable for quick drainage you need fine sand/ silt sized particle fines and sub angular shape it will compact better, stay that way better. No gravel surface course is immune to being tore up when it gets wet. Mb


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Re: Gravel. [Re: Fireball2] #16164406 06/12/21
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Clearly we need some courses in our community colleges exploring the various types of aggregate and their proper uses. Americans are waaaaaay behind the curve.

Look at China, building land out of ocean. And then they got that wall, that big, beautiful wall. They understands rocks.

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Re: Gravel. [Re: Fireball2] #16164421 06/12/21
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Yes, I use it liberally in my driveway and to handle drainage issues here and there. Crusher run for the driveway and the clean stuff for everything else. I've walked barefoot on gravel so often that it's like tip toeing through the tulips.

Re: Gravel. [Re: Fireball2] #16164423 06/12/21
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Originally Posted by Fireball2
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Dig the hole deeper and wider.


I keep hearing that. I think aliens are playing it in my head.

Speaking of holes, how deep and wide would, you know, a good size hole be, if it was too small to start with and what would you recommend for making the small hole[[[ more]]] bigger??



i would just go BIGGER my 200 Zaxis will do the job and that will make it bigger as long as U have the money


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Re: Gravel. [Re: Fireball2] #16164448 06/12/21
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Originally Posted by Fireball2
Just to be clear- gravel does not occur in nature. It by definition requires handling, some sort of process-ees. It must be crushed, cleaned, sorted, sifted, or washed to be gravel, otherwise it's rocks.

Or cobble. Could be cobble I suppose.



I must disagree with that, in nature there is a process that creates gravels , its called WATER , either fast flowing or in solid form crushing, rolling , grinding, creating huge or small deposits of well graded gravel , some called glacial moranes, or gravel beds or spawning beds for fish bearing streams,, need i go on in your education about man processed gravel products, because there are probably thousands of named products around the globe.

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Hey norm it wouldn't be the campfire if we didn't disagree! This is The Official Campfire Gravel Thread. We await your tutelage.


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Re: Gravel. [Re: Fireball2] #16164463 06/12/21
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What is the angle of repose on the pea gravel?


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Re: Gravel. [Re: poboy] #16164471 06/12/21
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We now pause for a brief intermission in The Official Campfire Gravel Thread.


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Re: Gravel. [Re: Fireball2] #16164513 06/12/21
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Originally Posted by Fireball2
We now pause for a brief intermission in The Official Campfire Gravel Thread.


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And i believe that that intermission is deflect me from more gravel based tutelage, but i do know that water or ice would flow freely over that specimen with no grinding or crushing.


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Re: Gravel. [Re: norm99] #16164521 06/12/21
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Originally Posted by norm99
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Just to be clear- gravel does not occur in nature. It by definition requires handling, some sort of process-ees. It must be crushed, cleaned, sorted, sifted, or washed to be gravel, otherwise it's rocks.

Or cobble. Could be cobble I suppose.



I must disagree with that, in nature there is a process that creates gravels , its called WATER , either fast flowing or in solid form crushing, rolling , grinding, creating huge or small deposits of well graded gravel , some called glacial moranes, or gravel beds or spawning beds for fish bearing streams,, need i go on in your education about man processed gravel products, because there are probably thousands of named products around the globe.

norm your teacher and mentor-----smile


Thank you Norm.

I was going to post similar, but after losing my title as the Smartest Man on the Campfire, I have no desire to share what little knowledge I have anymore.

PS, we call that angular stuff that's made from crushing rocks......................gravel.................but the proper term is.................





crushed rock. smirk

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Re: Gravel. [Re: Valsdad] #16164601 06/12/21
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Originally Posted by Valsdad
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Originally Posted by Fireball2
Just to be clear- gravel does not occur in nature. It by definition requires handling, some sort of process-ees. It must be crushed, cleaned, sorted, sifted, or washed to be gravel, otherwise it's rocks.

Or cobble. Could be cobble I suppose.



I must disagree with that, in nature there is a process that creates gravels , its called WATER , either fast flowing or in solid form crushing, rolling , grinding, creating huge or small deposits of well graded gravel , some called glacial moranes, or gravel beds or spawning beds for fish bearing streams,, need i go on in your education about man processed gravel products, because there are probably thousands of named products around the globe.

norm your teacher and mentor-----smile


Thank you Norm.

I was going to post similar, but after losing my title as the Smartest Man on the Campfire, I have no desire to share what little knowledge I have anymore.

PS, we call that angular stuff that's made from crushing rocks......................gravel.................but the proper term is.................





crushed rock. smirk


YES but with a thousand names from pathway screenings , hydro blend, to 8 " minus


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Re: Gravel. [Re: Fireball2] #16164662 06/12/21
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Maybe too much info detail here.

I DO love that decomposed granite for lots of things, but has become difficult to find out this way. A pain. There is a bunch of pea gravel just sitting mounded up at an abandoned digging/crushing place across the way - would like to find a way to get a couple of loads of that.

The only "rounded" rock i was able to find up in NM was nature washed - they call it river rock - managed to get some mixed size in 20 yard loads - proved to be excellent for driveways. Came straight from a road building job site - from the river bottom to the excavator bucket to the belly dump, to our place. Never could find it sized.

Not so sure about the efficacy of that filter cloth - at least out this way. PO did that a bit here - years later there is black cloth working it way up through the original gravel driveway.

Lately, have used crushed Coronado Brown (1 inch) for covering new areas here. So far, so good, but summer rains will be the test.


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Re: Gravel. [Re: CCCC] #16164686 06/12/21
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Originally Posted by CCCC
Maybe too much info detail here.

I DO love that decomposed granite for lots of things, but has become difficult to find out this way. A pain. There is a bunch of pea gravel just sitting mounded up at an abandoned digging/crushing place across the way - would like to find a way to get a couple of loads of that.

The only "rounded" rock i was able to find up in NM was nature washed - they call it river rock - managed to get some mixed size in 20 yard loads - proved to be excellent for driveways. Came straight from a road building job site - from the river bottom to the excavator bucket to the belly dump, to our place. Never could find it sized.

Not so sure about the efficacy of that filter cloth - at least out this way. PO did that a bit here - years later there is black cloth working it way up through the original gravel driveway.

[[Lately, have used crushed Coronado Brown (1 inch) for covering new areas here. So far, so good, but summer rains will be the test.
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thats what i mean about 1000 names, different rock , different color, as to decomposed granite, i just call it rotten rock and like it because its easy to dig out of the bank. Another is crushed shale ,nice to work with.


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Did Roy throw up on himself and pass out? LMAO


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Originally Posted by BobBrown
Did Roy throw up on himself and pass out? LMAO



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At what size does rock become gravel?

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Only amateurs call it gravel


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Mrs. Ballz wears the pants LOL [Re: Fireball2] #16164701 06/12/21
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And only inbreds put a period after just one word LOL

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Re: Gravel. [Re: Fireball2] #16164715 06/12/21
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Are we talking gravel or crushed stone?



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Can we talk about aggregate?


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