I’ll take a Mormon any day over a Scientologist or Happy Camper.
This ^^^…
You know that Scientologist have a lot in common with your Morman religion. I can't say that we connect on anything religious, but here's some truth from those who actually went to Morman source documents from their own founders and various religious texts. FYI, This is what your own religion teaches.
You, the beaver and the rest of you LDS Mormans can easily listen to strict Morman doctrines read from your own prophets writings and THEN you have your answer. Then you will know that there's Biblical understanding under that OldHat.
You, the beaver and the rest of you LDS Mormans can easily listen to strict Morman doctrines read from your own prophets writings and THEN you have your answer. Then you will know that there's Biblical understanding under that OldHat.
HERE they are in YOUR OWN prophet's words:
I’m not Mormon
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Curiosity Killed the Cat & The Prairie Dog “Molon Labe”
Christ also told us to judge but to do it righteously. “Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.” (Joh 7:24 ESV)The context of Mat 7:1 is telling us not to be a hypocrite. “You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye." (Mat 7:5 ESV)Paul was very judgmental when the situation required it.
He (Paul) did make it crystal clear that he had no business judging ANYBODY outside of the church. How many times have we seen ‘Christians’ judge non-Christians for not acting like Christians...? Why would a ‘Christian’ expect a non-Christian to act like a Christian...? Why would a Christian be critical and berating to a non-Christian for not acting like a Christian...? Apostle Paul said “what business is it of mine to judge those outside of the church...?” Why would a Christian judge outsiders for not embracing the values of something they’ve never signed up for in the first place...?
This thread, like many concerning religion, makes evident a universal truth.
Stupid people are convinced that belief systems other than their own are false and those believers are condemned to perdition.
Organized religions have nothing to do with spirituality.
mike r
So tell me ... what is spirituality to you?
Something is true. Finding out the truth is THE most important purpose in life.
Searching for the truth is important to me. So far my most significant enlightenment is learning to recognize what I don't KNOW. So far the old DO Unto Others etc. seems to about cover all societal situations and is the basis for my personal morality.
When I am out in nature I often feel in contact with a reality that doesn't need a name but includes me. Some might call that spirituality because they find titles important.
YMMV, amen
mike r
Don't wish it were easier Wish you were better
Stab them in the taint, you can't put a tourniquet on that. Craig Douglas ECQC
I’ll take a Mormon any day over a Scientologist or Happy Camper.
This ^^^…
You know that Scientologist have a lot in common with your Mormon religion. I can't say that we connect on anything religious, but here's some truth from those who actually went to Mormon source documents from their own founders and various religious texts. FYI, This is what your own religion teaches.
I’m not a Mormon you fugking idiot!!!
You can take it or leave it. You just said you'll take it. "Out of the issues of the heart the mouth speaketh."
I will leave it. I'm very open about where I stand on The Bible as my only rule of faith and doctrine. That includes Genesis to Revelation and stopped in that final chapter. My beliefs, like many Christians here are the basic fundamental teachings that evangelicals and Baptists have believed world wide. If you prefer Joseph Smith's and Brigham Young's teachings over the Biblical, why should we be surprised?
You, the beaver and the rest of you LDS Mormons can easily listen to strict Mormon doctrines read from your own prophets writings and THEN you have your answer. Then you will know that there's Biblical understanding under that OldHat.
HERE they are in YOUR OWN prophet's words:
I’m not a Mormon.
I apologize for that mistake. I read the comments of a bunch of guys getting defensive about LDS and thought we had a group of closet mormons. I don't think you are Mormon after all. Maybe we can reconsider this point that we heard for the past generation about judging. If I am wrong about that, please point it out to me. To answer the charge of being judgemental about certain things pertaining to the Word, I am truly judging by that standard. I am certainly far from perfect, however does God require perfection to judge such matters? I am judged by the same Scriptures that they are, Genesis to Revelation..... Not Genesis to their book of Moroni.
I have spoken on this because I do judge these things. I am commanded many places in the Word of God to judge such as these. I even judge their Angel Moroni with the authority vested in me by I Corinthians 6... "Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?"
These are Not LDS. These are believers such as those Paul spoke to 2,000 years before any LDS.
And Galatians 1...
"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed."
That angel is a fallen one that is condemned. The ONLY way condemned humans can be forgiven is to reject teachings of man's achievement/works, (like Mormonism, etc.) and trust the true only begotten Son of God instead.
"He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.". Said Jesus, John chapter 3 to a religious man of moral reputation of good works.
I have lived behind the Zion curtain for years. The underwear is not secret, nor magic. Not a one can tell you why plural marriage was "the most important tenet" of the religion a bit of a century after it was "no longer practiced". Not a one can really explain exaltation. Just like there isn't a Christian in a thousand that can explain the Trinity.
I have, and had, many mormon employees, even mormon relatives. Most are salt of the earth, decent people. Some are not. One employee ended up with two women pregnant at the same time, and only one was his wife (but not for long.... apparently that whole plural marriage thing actually DID go away!). They are just people, with work horses, show horses, ne'er do wells, welfare queens and crooks in the usual proportions.