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USA made conquest 3-12x56 mc vs German made diavari 3-12x56 T. Which one would you pic and why. I still there that much difference in the two. Not a ziess guy but looking at one of these before next deer season Any opinions or help is appreciated

Zeiss says cleaning lenses with anything other than their lens cleaner voids the warranty. I wouldn't buy a Zeiss magnifying glass on sale.

The diavari; if I’m hanging a Hubble, it’s going to be the best Hubble they offer.

While the 30mm Conquest 3-12x56 is a very nice scope and can handle just about any hunting situation, the Diavari with T* coatings offers better resolution and performs better in low light -- assuming both are in similar condition with no damage to the lenses or coatings. Honestly, though, you can't go wrong with either assuming they have a reticle that suits you.

You may just want to ask Zeiss directly if they have ever asked anyone what they used to clean the lenses and then voided the warranty as a result of the answer LOL. I've sent in Zeiss scopes for warranty work and for reticle changes and have NEVER been asked that.

By the way, I just looked at one of my Zeiss manuals, and NOWHERE does it state what you claim. I'm not saying it may not be in another product's manual, but I don't recall reading that in any of mine and have used Zeiss for decades.

FROM ZEISS MANUAL:

Care and maintenance
Your riflescope has ZEISS LotuTec ® coating. The effective protective coating for the lens surfaces noticeably reduces contamination of the lenses through an especially smooth surface and the resulting water-beading effect. All types of contamination stick less and can be quickly and easily removed without smearing. LotuTec® coating is durable and abrasion-resistant.

Your ZEISS riflescope requires no special maintenance. Do not wipe coarse particles (e. g. sand) from the lenses. Blow them off, or use a soft brush! Over time, fingerprints can corrode the lens surface. Breathing on the lens and polishing with a clean optical cleansing cloth/tissue is the easiest method of cleaning the lens surface.
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I also just looked at a pre-Lotutec manual. Again, there is no mention of what you claim.

I got that straight from actual first hand experience dealing with Zeiss. You wouldn't expect it would you? That's the reason I bothered to type it.

There is a difference, but if you can’t tell, buy the cheapest scope.

Also don’t pay any attention to the guy behind the curtain saying you must use Zeiss tissues to clean your lenses.

I’m a sucker for Diavari scopes. Never been much of a Conquest fan

Another vote for the Diavari. IMO the last Zeiss scopes worth their full price. Kinda wish they would bring them back.

Show where that is written

Got both, like both. If you want to smile every time you look through, buy the Diavari. I sent my Diavari out for a cleaning/wellness check and it went back to the old country. Despite that, turnaround was quick and customer service was stellar.

The conquest is a fine scope too.

You should also see if you can find a Conquest Dl as well , they are outstanding . I would take the Diavari in a NY second over most lowlight scopes today.

Ignore the lens tissue comments. SMH

On Tuesday, December 1, 2020, 02:28:29 PM EST, Benjamin Martin <repairservice.cop.uszeiss.com> wrote:


Good afternoon,

Thank you for your inquiry into our Conquest MC product line. The only photo that came along with your e-mail is the serial number photo. The issue you have described is not a manufacturing defect with the lens coating. Unfortunately we do not cover lenses that are damaged due to improper lens care. We do not recommend using dish soap to clean your optic.

The manual states the following in terms of lens cleaning and care:
Do not under any circumstances wipe off coarse dirt particles(e.g. sand) from the lenses, but blow them off or remove them using a soft brush. If not removed, finger marks can damage the lens surface. The proper way to clean the lens surfaces is with a quality lens spray cleaner or moist lens tissue and then wipe them with a clean optics cleaning cloth.

In the event that you would like to replace your scope we need to inform you that your scope has been discontinued and is no longer repairable due to parts and tooling availability. However, if you send your scope in to our service department we can offer you a good will sale on a NEW optic at a significantly discounted price. We will need your scope before we can make this offer.

We appreciate your continued patronage,

Your ZEISS Customer Care Team
ZEISS Consumer Products
COP Repair Service

1050 Worldwide Blvd
Hebron, KY 41048
USA

Phone: (800) 441-3005
repair.sportsopticszeiss.com
Web: www.zeiss.com/us

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I just bought the Zeiss mini packs of lens cleaning and use these on all my scopes. I think they cost $15.00 for 200 packs.

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Hah! You just proved my point!

NEVER did they say the warranty was voided by using non-Zeiss products -- and NOWHERE do they state you must use Zeiss products for cleaning. You damaged the lenses or coatings via your own methods and now want to use Zeiss as a scapegoat because they wouldn't fix what you screwed up. There's no need to spread lies because you have misdirected anger at a company for not giving you something for free. Find the fault and direct the anger where it belongs: with yourself.

Never owned a Conquest, but my 30mm 1.5-6x42 Diavari VM/V is my all time favorite whitetail scope. The low light gathering of that scope looks like someone is standing behind you with a spotlight and that one is only a 42mm. The only thing that I wish it had is 1/4" equivalent adjustments instead of one cm .394" adjustments, but I'm a set it and forget it guy, so it works for me.

You said that not Zeiss

I realize the Conquest are the domestic models. However, they've never let me down. The only other European scopes I own are S&B PMII and Meopta.

Well..............................

If you're going to use dishwashing liquid on a coated lens, why not give it a few rubs with a scouring pad while you're at it. You know, really show it who's the boss.................................