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Oh boy...more gear!

Wishing they were a little lighter, but will probably order something from him. I like the idea of the Overbags for warmer trips/regions.

Thanks for the heads up.


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More then welcome.

His Freedom Shelters and bags are per person on all US Army aircraft, his bags are vacuum sealed in ejection seats in Alaska as is his "walking sleeping bag" (with mittens and mukluks), his hypothermia bag has US and Canadian NSN's, and his B-52 survival system is on... Life Support Equipment under the guise of recreational gear.

Considering the seeming "randomness" of events, and the fact that with his bag, a GOOD pad, a tarp, water and peanut butter (rapid burn calories and slow burn fats), you've just done about everything you can to stock the odds in your favor. There are folk that say and I absolutely agree, your sleeping bag, is the single most important piece of your survival. Choose wisely.

The summer weight Freedom bag was a considered decision, less insulation compresses smaller. All his stuff is good for 10-20 degrees below his rating, and his Freedom bag can be used as a coat, poncho liner or blanket. The liners when combined are purportedly good to around -50. Now add the bag if necessary.

I'm out of work sick, sitting here typing, probably have a fever, thermostat set 68-70, I'm cold, so I have his "sweater" on. 3oz. Lamalite, good to about 20 degrees, and I'm comfortable. It's all about the unimpeded passage of water vapor.

Max compression ( he don't sell storage bags) forever, without loss of loft, bomb proof construction and zippers, no loss of function when wet. No where else. Life Support Gear.

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More then welcome.

His Freedom Shelters and bags are per person on all US Army aircraft, his bags are vacuum sealed in ejection seats in Alaska as is his "walking sleeping bag" (with mittens and mukluks), his hypothermia bag has US and Canadian NSN's, and his B-52 survival system is on... Life Support Equipment under the guise of recreational gear.

Considering the seeming "randomness" of events, and the fact that with his bag, a GOOD pad, a tarp, water and peanut butter (rapid burn calories and slow burn fats), you've just done about everything you can to stock the odds in your favor. There are folk that say and I absolutely agree, your sleeping bag, is the single most important piece of your survival. Choose wisely.

The summer weight Freedom bag was a considered decision, less insulation compresses smaller. All his stuff is good for 10-20 degrees below his rating, and his Freedom bag can be used as a coat, poncho liner or blanket. The liners when combined are purportedly good to around -50. Now add the bag if necessary.

I'm out of work sick, sitting here typing, probably have a fever, thermostat set 68-70, I'm cold, so I have his "sweater" on. 3oz. Lamalite, good to about 20 degrees, and I'm comfortable. It's all about the unimpeded passage of water vapor.

Max compression ( he don't sell storage bags) forever, without loss of loft, bomb proof construction and zippers, no loss of function when wet. No where else. Life Support Gear.

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10-20 degrees below rating? That’s a laugh. Is your name Jerry by chance? Jerry doesn’t does not stand behind his warranty.

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I like quite a bit of Wiggy stuff. But I"m with Beanman... ratings are not what they are for ME. And certainly for others I know, in Alaska, they don't quite hold to the ratings comfortably. Alive yes. Comfortable no. But definitely not below the ratings,.


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No, my names Jim. I'm just a very satisfied Wiggys customer.
I will say, there is too much variance in peoples cold tolerance, to make a blanket statement that a given product will keep everyone warm at X temperature. Buying the layers allows the mix and match for given conditions/activities.
As always, use what works for you.

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I'll add, as above, Wiggys is the only bag that I'm aware of that you can use when your wet and it's wet, and be warm, as proven by me to me. That is a potentially life saving quality.

As always, use what works for yous.

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Originally Posted by alligator
I'll add, as above, Wiggys is the only bag that I'm aware of that you can use when your wet and it's wet, and be warm, as proven by me to me. That is a potentially life saving quality.

As always, use what works for yous.

True.
About anytime of year, wool will retain heat even when wet. Even in the summer hypothermia can happen with a storm. Two items to stay warm and dry are what Im wearing now on this chilly summer morning....a wool shirt.
For dry, I recommend a light tarp with cord. Sticks and tress can be the tieouts. That increases pack weight to a pound or two more, but it's the most common emergency need in my experience.

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Originally Posted by alligator
I'll add, as above, Wiggys is the only bag that I'm aware of that you can use when your wet and it's wet, and be warm, as proven by me to me.


Any good synthetic bag will work the same, and there are lots of other brands I'd pick before Wiggys.



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Just my .02c for Eastern woodlands in the three seasons.
There are some very good points made from both sides of the wool vs. synthetic debate.
Whatever one decides to choose, it should work for them.

That might be an oversimplified statement, but there are too many variables to say this is better than that, in ALL environments. There's too much difference between seasons and from Alaska to Texas.
I will wear wool early spring and mid fall through winter, but most don't wear it in the summer. Can you die of hypothermia in the summer? Yes.

The other point when I was on a mountain when no rain was in the forecast reminded me of something. A storm moved in and I was far from shelter. I brought plenty of provisions, but didn't consider a tarp or poncho. The storm changed suddenly at the last moment right after I asked the Lord for help.
It was a close call.

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Originally Posted by alligator
I'll add, as above, Wiggys is the only bag that I'm aware of that you can use when your wet and it's wet, and be warm, as proven by me to me. That is a potentially life saving quality.

As always, use what works for yous.


Have heard great things on the Kifaru Slick Bag. Weights less than the wiggys but reports are stellar in that situation. Maybe I'm wrong? I am in the market for a Slick Bag....


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I've got a Slick bag, 0 degree.

It is light and warm, but being a mummy bag it isn't too comfortable nor roomy and the material while water proof, gets "sticky" on your arms or other skin that touches it when wet. It is difficult to explain but it drives me nuts. If there's condensation and such inside the tent from wet boots/wet cloths it gets to be an uncomfortable time.
Other than that, it is a very high quality and well thought out bag.



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Get a Sea to summit Silk liner cocoon bag T Inman


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Similar, and similarly old, thread in the ‘hide

https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/survival.36391/


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Hmmmm I don’t find any similarity between a thread about surviving a cold/wet night and surviving the apocalypse laugh

I had to quit reading that one.

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Originally Posted by mtwarden
Hmmmm I don’t find any similarity between a thread about surviving a cold/wet night and surviving the apocalypse laugh

I had to quit reading that one.



Well, I will say that if I had to run "The Bob" or those other crazy races you do, it would be apocalyptic.



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Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by mtwarden
Hmmmm I don’t find any similarity between a thread about surviving a cold/wet night and surviving the apocalypse laugh

I had to quit reading that one.



Well, I will say that if I had to run "The Bob" or those other crazy races you do, it would be apocalyptic.


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A 9-volt battery momentarily touched to 0000 steel wool will light a fire quicker than just about anything. A pinch mashed in a paraffin soaked cotton ball is even better yet!

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Some interesting points here. Thought I'd add my $0.02. Butane lighters, piezo or otherwise do not work at high altitudes. Best lighter for altitude I've found is a Zippo. Not sure what the attraction is with the gooey cotton balls; they're messy and get smooshed into greasy balls. I pack Esbit Solid Fuel tabs, a beeswax candle, and chunks for fireplace starter (looks like a fake log). I have a ferro rod too, but damn if that's my first option. If I need a fire, I NEED a fire. I'm not practicing some bushcraft bow drill, ferro rod, when I have instant means. The road flares are a good option IMO, if the weight isn't an issue.

I'm of the Nessmuk Trio mentality with the sharp things. Hatchet for chopping, fixed blade for big cutting chores, small folder for fine work. If weight is an issue I'll leave the axe or fixed blade at camp, depending on my needs. Yes, axes are dangerous, so is the gun you are carrying, the trees you climb over, and the lightning in the sky. Slip and falls account for a lot more injuries than camping hatchets.

I have a Katadyn water filter that's awesome with a pack of chlorine tablets just in case. The filter is fast and easy and the water tastes amazing; it's a trade off for more weight and space.

My shelter is a 8x10 plastic tarp. I've used it once, along with the axe. And it both were probably a life saver that day.

Biggest thing for me is weight. I don't want a bunch of REI and Cabelas pseudo survival gimmicks in my pack.

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Originally Posted by Mountain10mm
Some interesting points here. Thought I'd add my $0.02. Butane lighters, piezo or otherwise do not work at high altitudes.


What altitudes are you talking about? I've never had a problem up to about 12 K?

I always have multiple ways to start a fire but I like the convenience of having a few bics stashed in various places.



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