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Why not in America? Not interested in any of the others.

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If they would offer the SHV 3-10x42mm with a 4A I would sure buy one .

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Originally Posted by StarchedCover
If they would offer the SHV 3-10x42mm with a 4A I would sure buy one .

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You would think a pro-active forward thinking scope supplier would see a possible scoop on his competitors, jump a few hoops, and make this happen.

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Night Force durability and reliability with a hunter-friendly German #4 Reticle, count me in. Sounds too good to be true.

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Same here. Actually found a European dealer that had an SHV 5-20x56 4A in stock a few years back that was willing to ship to the U.S. but it was going to cost about $300 over list and he couldn’t guarantee a delivery timeline. Said it could be as long as 3-4 months. I ended up passing. Seems like a no-brainer to have them available in the states but what do I know.

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25 MOA thin opening @ 10x is about 3x too large.

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German #4 reticles generally do not do particularly well in the US, especially with older hunters and people who do not know anything about scopes. With people under 40, they do reasonably well. Multiple scope manufacturers have looked at the statistics when they offered both plex and #4 reticles.

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In Nightforce's case, the #4 is a thin, very wide opening, #4.....it's a Leupold wide duplex #4. It's different than the "classic" bold #4 type of reticle that most makers use. Nightforce's Forceplex is a more visible reticle.

Nightforce screws hunting reticles up so badly.

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Originally Posted by StarchedCover
If they would offer the SHV 3-10x42mm with a 4A I would sure buy one .

Doug are you listening ?


Always listening as well as sharing items like this with the mfg's


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I too would be interested if they offered a # 4 like Swarovski's 4a.

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Originally Posted by handwerk
I too would be interested if they offered a # 4 like Swarovski's 4a.

THIS.

Love the #4 in my Z3 Swaros.


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Every scope I own is a 4A. I've not purchased a Nightforce as their reticles are too busy for me.

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Yes, If Nightforce could manage a 4A similar to the one Swarovski is using I'd be on that pretty quick; just tell me where to send the money.


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The next thing someone will probably post on this thread is "The reason Nightforce does not offer a #4 on their scopes is because the number of people hear on 24 hour bitching about it, is just a very tiny percentage of the people buying scopes" Well, I say, maybe not really. There may just be a significent "Silent Minority" out there that that just don't do forums, that would also buy a Nightforce scope if they were available with the #4 reticle. Just say'n. RJ

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Most of my Zeiss Conquest and all of my Swarovski have a #4 .

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Is there a "way, shortcut" to jump around this not sold in USA and buy one of these from afar?

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I am one of the older guys who still like duplex reticles, I have looked at the 4A, but am trying to think of an advantage to it. Please explain the benefits of it?

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I guess I'm an older guy at 49 and I have just switched to the #4 reticle when I picked up a S&B Polar because of the illuminated dot reticle. I needed a low light optic and the Polar is the best thing that my deteriorating eyes have looked through. I hunt very thick hardwoods and have no problems seeing the reticle and then the illumination is nice when I really need it.

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Better to light a candle than to curse the darkness

They’ve made their choice. Buy something else. I did. Then, contact them and tell them what you bought, and why. Since they already make the 4a, there’s no real expense associated with offering it here as well, maybe as a direct sale item, or through a few select dealers.

While you’re up, take a look at the Tract Toric 2-10 w/T-Plex. The SHV has a bit more adjustment, but the Toric has more ER and is a bit lighter. Costs considerably less. I bought the 3-15 because I wanted the side focus. The T-Plex has side posts that come close to the center, which I find very helpful in low light. Also comes with a turret kit in the box, including zero stop, if that’s what you prefer

https://tractoptics.com/all-products/toric-uhd-2-10x42-t-plex-rifle-scope



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