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Its about time for a new thread. I just ran into a batch of the 30 gr Bergers at a good price and am working up a load in my .17 Rem with them.

Anybody got any suggestions for a load in that cartridge or anyone got any experience on fur with them?

My intention is to use them on pigs but some fur occasionally walks in front of the gun.

Share your experiences...


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24gr 760 or 22gr 8208xbr with federal 205, OAL 2.170, just plain kills and easy on fur.

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You trying to work up an elephant load or something? Sheesh

I’m no help, my gun probably doesn’t have the twist for them so I’ve never bought any. I’ve heard good things and expect a full report though.

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Originally Posted by unahunt
24gr 760 or 22gr 8208xbr with federal 205, OAL 2.170, just plain kills and easy on fur.


OK thanks! I keep hearing 760 in this regard, Ill give some a go!


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Originally Posted by TheKid
You trying to work up an elephant load or something? Sheesh

I’m no help, my gun probably doesn’t have the twist for them so I’ve never bought any. I’ve heard good things and expect a full report though.


No, Im just gonna shoot monster hogs with it. And your gun is a Remington which is supposed to have a 9 twist, which is what is recommended.


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26.6gr. of H414 and an oal of 2.2. Rem. brass and Rem. 7 1/2 primer.
This load works with the Nagel 30gr. and Blackhole Bullet 30gr. FB.

This bullet and load works for all game up to an including the Ceratosaurus.

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Killed several coyotes with my 17-204 and 30gr Nagels and 30gr golds. Both were decent on coyote furs. Didn't have any runners


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Originally Posted by K22
26.6gr. of H414 and an oal of 2.2. Rem. brass and Rem. 7 1/2 primer.
This load works with the Nagel 30gr. and Blackhole Bullet 30gr. FB.

This bullet and load works for all game up to an including the Ceratosaurus.



414 is the same thing as 760....or is it?


Thanks for the input!


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Originally Posted by Coyotejunki
Killed several coyotes with my 17-204 and 30gr Nagels and 30gr golds. Both were decent on coyote furs. Didn't have any runners




Good to know. Ive only shot 2 coyotes with the .17 Rem and I was using a Hornady 25 gr HP...both were runners and made it about 50 yards.


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Originally Posted by ingwe
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26.6gr. of H414 and an oal of 2.2. Rem. brass and Rem. 7 1/2 primer.
This load works with the Nagel 30gr. and Blackhole Bullet 30gr. FB.

This bullet and load works for all game up to an including the Ceratosaurus.



414 is the same thing as 760....or is it?


Thanks for the input!



I believe it is. Around here H414 is easier to find than 760.

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[/quote] 414 is the same thing as 760....or is it?
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Yes, exactly the same powder in a different-labeled jug--the reason Hodgdon recently "discontinued" 760.

Another powder that works great in the .17 Remington, with a similar burn-rate, is Ramshot Big Game. The big differences I've found are that Big Game burns cleaner, and is less temperature sensitive.

Of course, finding any BG right now could be a problem--unless you know somebody with a good supply.


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Originally Posted by ingwe
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Killed several coyotes with my 17-204 and 30gr Nagels and 30gr golds. Both were decent on coyote furs. Didn't have any runners




Good to know. Ive only shot 2 coyotes with the .17 Rem and I was using a Hornady 25 gr HP...both were runners and made it about 50 yards.


The only time I used 25gr. Hornady's was back in 70's when the 17 was just getting started. I thought the Rem. sp's worked better back then. I went to 25gr. Berger Match with great success and then to the 25gr. Nagel with equal success.
I understand that many use the Hornady's. Those are generally available and cheaper than the custom bullets and that may be the reason so many use them. If I was still pelt hunting the custom bullets is where I would be.

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I have heard good things about the Remington sp...

Also about the Nagels...


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Try 25gr CFE 223.


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Originally Posted by doubleDs55
Try 25gr CFE 223.



Actually have that loaded up to try tomorrow. It works well with the 25 grainers, hopefully it'll do the same with the 30's


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
[/quote] 414 is the same thing as 760....or is it?


Yes, exactly the same powder in a different-labeled jug--the reason Hodgdon recently "discontinued" 760.

Another powder that works great in the .17 Remington, with a similar burn-rate, is Ramshot Big Game. The big differences I've found are that Big Game burns cleaner, and is less temperature sensitive.

Of course, finding any BG right now could be a problem--unless you know somebody with a good supply.
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Hodgdon "discontinued" H414 not Win760
there was a fresh batch of 760 at the LGS last week

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boatanchor,

Yep--except we're both wrong. The only thing discontinued was jugs with H414 labels....


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Just got back from the range. Tried near max loads of H4895, 4064, and CFE223...


They ALL worked well.


I hate it when that happens...


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That’s an easy choice to make. CFE is the only ball powder of the three. Screw trying to get Lincoln logs in the necks of 17 cases.

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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
boatanchor,

Yep--except we're both wrong. The only thing discontinued was jugs with H414 labels....


Thought that was exactly what I said ????????? trying to figure out how I was wrong


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