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Wow Saddlebum that was quite a dissertation. As Jordan pointed out you’re a hypocrite but most Covitards are. Once again this guy has nothing intelligent to offer beyond parroting another member.
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It isn't surprising that Derek Sloan is the only MP trying to raise political capital from his opposition to vaccines and lockdowns.
After all this is the same guy who panders to ultra-conservative religious groups by opposing abortion and same-sex marriage, attacks LGBT groups, and has accepted campaign donations from white supremacist groups.
This is the same MP that the Conservative party booted from caucus and now sits as an independent MP. He is a pariah in his own former party so he really has nothing to lose. And his extremist views do play well with fellow extremists who send him money.
As for his claims that the three doctors that he dug up represent the views of many other doctors, this claim is false.
For example, with regards to Dr. Byram Bridle, his fellow immunologists have stated that he misinterprets studies and data; that his claims are unsubstantiated; and that his views do not align with the mainstream. In other words, they are HIS views alone, and not those of "many" other doctors.
The majority of doctors Canada-wide do not agree with these three doctors.
And Derek Sloan is basically just an ostracized independent "shock-jock" politician who sensationalizes and exaggerates issues to gain support from others with extreme views.
Lots of nonsense in this ^^ The doctors that agree with the three Sloan had with him are in the tens of thousands.....literally. The doctor from Texas that testified before the senate a couple weeks ago is the most published doctor in the history of medicine. He agrees with the three Canadians on all points. His credentials speak for themselves. You can discount him all you want, but that doesnt make him wrong. The data on HQ and ivermectin has been peer reviewed now. Why you would continue to disagree with doctors who are pointing that out is tantamount to denying science... Can you name 10 such doctors from those "tens of thousands" ? And Derek Sloan is indeed an ostracized ex-conservative who panders to his followers with sensationalist drivel. And these 3 doctors are in a small minority in Canada. There peers do not agree with them. Can you see the hypocrisy in you criticizing yukon254 for speaking on behalf of the "tens of thousands" of doctors, and in the same post you pretend to speak on behalf of the entire community of medical doctors in Canada? What tens of thousands of doctors? I have yet to see any evidence of this claim. And I don't speak on behalf of the entire medical community of Canada. These three doctors have said themselves that their views are not agreed with by the vast majority of doctors in Canada.
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And, since I am a gun owner and have published many positive posts about firearms, why would anybody believe that I am a socialist, a communist, a leftist, a trudeau lover, or any of these other ridiculous accusations?
In today's society, there are plenty of leftists that are pro-firearms. People are calling you these things because your opinions and statements on here seem to be consistent with much of the leftist rhetoric. Labeling those who disagree with you as "extremists" is a red flag, for sure. So, how can someone who is pro-firearm and voted Conservative be a leftist? Does someone who favors a Conservative government and is pro-firearm have to accept every nut-bar theory advanced by a minority of people? And like I said, Conservative Premiers Kenney and Ford favor vaccines and lockdowns. Does that make them and their Conservative parties leftists?
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It isn't surprising that Derek Sloan is the only MP trying to raise political capital from his opposition to vaccines and lockdowns.
After all this is the same guy who panders to ultra-conservative religious groups by opposing abortion and same-sex marriage, attacks LGBT groups, and has accepted campaign donations from white supremacist groups.
This is the same MP that the Conservative party booted from caucus and now sits as an independent MP. He is a pariah in his own former party so he really has nothing to lose. And his extremist views do play well with fellow extremists who send him money.
As for his claims that the three doctors that he dug up represent the views of many other doctors, this claim is false.
For example, with regards to Dr. Byram Bridle, his fellow immunologists have stated that he misinterprets studies and data; that his claims are unsubstantiated; and that his views do not align with the mainstream. In other words, they are HIS views alone, and not those of "many" other doctors.
The majority of doctors Canada-wide do not agree with these three doctors.
And Derek Sloan is basically just an ostracized independent "shock-jock" politician who sensationalizes and exaggerates issues to gain support from others with extreme views.
Lots of nonsense in this ^^ The doctors that agree with the three Sloan had with him are in the tens of thousands.....literally. The doctor from Texas that testified before the senate a couple weeks ago is the most published doctor in the history of medicine. He agrees with the three Canadians on all points. His credentials speak for themselves. You can discount him all you want, but that doesnt make him wrong. The data on HQ and ivermectin has been peer reviewed now. Why you would continue to disagree with doctors who are pointing that out is tantamount to denying science... Can you name 10 such doctors from those "tens of thousands" ? And Derek Sloan is indeed an ostracized ex-conservative who panders to his followers with sensationalist drivel. And these 3 doctors are in a small minority in Canada. There peers do not agree with them. Can you see the hypocrisy in you criticizing yukon254 for speaking on behalf of the "tens of thousands" of doctors, and in the same post you pretend to speak on behalf of the entire community of medical doctors in Canada? What tens of thousands of doctors? I have yet to see any evidence of this claim. And I don't speak on behalf of the entire medical community of Canada. These three doctors have said themselves that their views are not agreed with by the vast majority of doctors in Canada. Fair enough, but my point is that nobody has asked every doctor in Canada what their opinion is, so it's silly to make statements like that. I think it's safe to say that lots of doctors agree with one side of the debate, and a lot agree with the other side. To put quantifying adjectives on the number of doctors on each side is likely ill-informed, at best. It's similar to the climate change debate and the "the science is settled, 97% of scientists agree" statement. As a scientist, nobody called and asked me what I think about it. Nobody asked any of my colleagues, either. These types of statements and numbers are just pulled out of thin air and are based on very biased data samples.
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Wow Saddlebum that was quite a dissertation. As Jordan pointed out you’re a hypocrite but most Covitards are. Once again this guy has nothing intelligent to offer beyond parroting another member. Hey as long as you wear your mask and get your shot everything will be ok. You go girl…
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And, since I am a gun owner and have published many positive posts about firearms, why would anybody believe that I am a socialist, a communist, a leftist, a trudeau lover, or any of these other ridiculous accusations?
In today's society, there are plenty of leftists that are pro-firearms. People are calling you these things because your opinions and statements on here seem to be consistent with much of the leftist rhetoric. Labeling those who disagree with you as "extremists" is a red flag, for sure. So, how can someone who is pro-firearm and voted Conservative be a leftist? Does someone who favors a Conservative government and is pro-firearm have to accept every nut-bar theory advanced by a minority of people? And like I said, Conservative Premiers Kenney and Ford favor vaccines and lockdowns. Does that make them and their Conservative parties leftists? Well, I'm not interested in trying to label you, but some behaviours and beliefs are consistent with leftist ideology. For starters, voting Conservative doesn't mean much. We don't have a truly conservative party in Canada, we have leftist parties and a centrist party. Further, labeling truly conservative ideas as "nut-bar theor[ies] advanced by a minority of people" is certainly a leftist tactic. Around here, the ideas you're referring to seem to be fairly mainstream among the rank-and-file average citizens. And yes, despite party affiliations, lockdowns are certainly leftist/totalitarian actions, reminiscent of dictatorships and totalitarian regimes, especially compared with the approach taken by districts such as Texas and Florida. In any case, having a difference of opinion and an ensuing debate is healthy, but name-calling and ad hominem attacks are almost never productive. I won't call your beliefs "extreme", and I don't expect my beliefs (including my religious beliefs) to be labeled as "extreme", "nut-bar", etc., either.
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It isn't surprising that Derek Sloan is the only MP trying to raise political capital from his opposition to vaccines and lockdowns.
After all this is the same guy who panders to ultra-conservative religious groups by opposing abortion and same-sex marriage, attacks LGBT groups, and has accepted campaign donations from white supremacist groups.
This is the same MP that the Conservative party booted from caucus and now sits as an independent MP. He is a pariah in his own former party so he really has nothing to lose. And his extremist views do play well with fellow extremists who send him money.
As for his claims that the three doctors that he dug up represent the views of many other doctors, this claim is false.
For example, with regards to Dr. Byram Bridle, his fellow immunologists have stated that he misinterprets studies and data; that his claims are unsubstantiated; and that his views do not align with the mainstream. In other words, they are HIS views alone, and not those of "many" other doctors.
The majority of doctors Canada-wide do not agree with these three doctors.
And Derek Sloan is basically just an ostracized independent "shock-jock" politician who sensationalizes and exaggerates issues to gain support from others with extreme views.
Lots of nonsense in this ^^ The doctors that agree with the three Sloan had with him are in the tens of thousands.....literally. The doctor from Texas that testified before the senate a couple weeks ago is the most published doctor in the history of medicine. He agrees with the three Canadians on all points. His credentials speak for themselves. You can discount him all you want, but that doesnt make him wrong. The data on HQ and ivermectin has been peer reviewed now. Why you would continue to disagree with doctors who are pointing that out is tantamount to denying science... Can you name 10 such doctors from those "tens of thousands" ? And Derek Sloan is indeed an ostracized ex-conservative who panders to his followers with sensationalist drivel. And these 3 doctors are in a small minority in Canada. There peers do not agree with them. Easily :Dr. Peter McCullough, Dr. Roger Hodkinson, Dr Michael Yeadon, Dr. Pierre Kory, Dr. Hooman Noorchashm, Dr. Don J. Tynes, Dr. Simone Gold, Dr Andrew Kaufman, Dr. James Todaro , Dr Scott A. Barbour. There are tens of thousands more. Doubt that go to the American Front Lines Doctors Alliance, or read the Great Barrington Declaration.
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Wow Saddlebum that was quite a dissertation. As Jordan pointed out you’re a hypocrite but most Covitards are. Once again this guy has nothing intelligent to offer beyond parroting another member. Hey as long as you wear your mask and get your shot everything will be ok. You go girl… If you choose to live in your alternate reality, junior, more power to you.
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The funny thing is that where I live in here in Alberta the community is just about 95% Conservative party voters. Yet I haven't heard a word spoken against wearing masks, or wearing masks in the stores. Nobody beeches about wearing masks at the local Walmart. There have been no incidents whatsoever. And everybody is booking and getting their vaccine shots at the pharmacies. I haven't heard anyone say otherwise. So, following the mask protocols and getting the vaccines enjoys widespread Conservative value acceptance. But, since they obviously don't take any stock in Derek Sloan's sensationalist views, I guess that all of these people must be leftists, communists, and trudeau lovers. (But don't say that to any one of them.) 
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And, since I am a gun owner and have published many positive posts about firearms, why would anybody believe that I am a socialist, a communist, a leftist, a trudeau lover, or any of these other ridiculous accusations?
In today's society, there are plenty of leftists that are pro-firearms. People are calling you these things because your opinions and statements on here seem to be consistent with much of the leftist rhetoric. Labeling those who disagree with you as "extremists" is a red flag, for sure. So, how can someone who is pro-firearm and voted Conservative be a leftist? Does someone who favors a Conservative government and is pro-firearm have to accept every nut-bar theory advanced by a minority of people? And like I said, Conservative Premiers Kenney and Ford favor vaccines and lockdowns. Does that make them and their Conservative parties leftists? Well, I'm not interested in trying to label you, but some behaviours and beliefs are consistent with leftist ideology. For starters, voting Conservative doesn't mean much. We don't have a truly conservative party in Canada, we have leftist parties and a centrist party. Further, labeling truly conservative ideas as "nut-bar theor[ies] advanced by a minority of people" is certainly a leftist tactic. Around here, the ideas you're referring to seem to be fairly mainstream among the rank-and-file average citizens. And yes, despite party affiliations, lockdowns are certainly leftist/totalitarian actions, reminiscent of dictatorships and totalitarian regimes, especially compared with the approach taken by districts such as Texas and Florida. In any case, having a difference of opinion and an ensuing debate is healthy, but name-calling and ad hominem attacks are almost never productive. I won't call your beliefs "extreme", and I don't expect my beliefs (including my religious beliefs) to be labeled as "extreme", "nut-bar", etc., either. So, you do believe that the Conservative governments in Alberta and Ontario are leftist and totalitarian regimes? I wonder then what party you will vote for in the next election? 
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Wow Saddlebum that was quite a dissertation. As Jordan pointed out you’re a hypocrite but most Covitards are. Once again this guy has nothing intelligent to offer beyond parroting another member. Hey as long as you wear your mask and get your shot everything will be ok. You go girl… If you choose to live in your alternate reality, junior, more power to you. I have had Covid 19 and amazingly lived through it because it’s SO deadly… 😂 Mask up and get your shot because you’re scared. You go girl…
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The funny thing is that where I live in here in Alberta the community is just about 95% Conservative party voters. Yet I haven't heard a word spoken against wearing masks, or wearing masks in the stores. Nobody beeches about wearing masks at the local Walmart. There have been no incidents whatsoever. And everybody is booking and getting their vaccine shots at the pharmacies. I haven't heard anyone say otherwise. So, following the mask protocols and getting the vaccines enjoys widespread Conservative value acceptance. But, since they obviously don't take any stock in Derek Sloan's sensationalist views, I guess that all of these people must be leftists, communists, and trudeau lovers. (But don't say that to any one of them.) I think the whole mask wearing thing is stupid as hell but I does whine about it. I am also suspicious of the vaccines simply because the government drones are pushing so hard and lying to us while they are at it. GD
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Wow Saddlebum that was quite a dissertation. As Jordan pointed out you’re a hypocrite but most Covitards are. Once again this guy has nothing intelligent to offer beyond parroting another member. Hey as long as you wear your mask and get your shot everything will be ok. You go girl… If you choose to live in your alternate reality, junior, more power to you. I have had Covid 19 and amazingly lived through it because it’s SO deadly… 😂 Mask up and get your shot because you’re scared. You go girl… This tiresome little man reminds me of a yappy little chihuahua. He never contributes anything useful to the discussion. He just barks at you from a safe distance, in hopes that that will wear you down.
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It isn't surprising that Derek Sloan is the only MP trying to raise political capital from his opposition to vaccines and lockdowns.
After all this is the same guy who panders to ultra-conservative religious groups by opposing abortion and same-sex marriage, attacks LGBT groups, and has accepted campaign donations from white supremacist groups.
This is the same MP that the Conservative party booted from caucus and now sits as an independent MP. He is a pariah in his own former party so he really has nothing to lose. And his extremist views do play well with fellow extremists who send him money.
As for his claims that the three doctors that he dug up represent the views of many other doctors, this claim is false.
For example, with regards to Dr. Byram Bridle, his fellow immunologists have stated that he misinterprets studies and data; that his claims are unsubstantiated; and that his views do not align with the mainstream. In other words, they are HIS views alone, and not those of "many" other doctors.
The majority of doctors Canada-wide do not agree with these three doctors.
And Derek Sloan is basically just an ostracized independent "shock-jock" politician who sensationalizes and exaggerates issues to gain support from others with extreme views.
More childish racist nonsense from saddle bags No one is surprised.
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Wow Saddlebum that was quite a dissertation. As Jordan pointed out you’re a hypocrite but most Covitards are. Once again this guy has nothing intelligent to offer beyond parroting another member. Hey as long as you wear your mask and get your shot everything will be ok. You go girl… If you choose to live in your alternate reality, junior, more power to you. I have had Covid 19 and amazingly lived through it because it’s SO deadly… 😂 Mask up and get your shot because you’re scared. You go girl… Silly Trudeau inspired covid virtue signaling by left wing nut bag. He doesn’t even know how long the shots last. One month? 7 months? A year? I see dozens of Canadian down here every day shopping, in bars restaurants . None wear a mask or social distance. A hour from the border. Saddle nut. I see that your hero Trudeau didn’t even bother wearing his mask or social distance at the G7 last week. And the science denying covid nut jobs still worship him. Lol
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I hope Americans don't think any of us agree or even like saddlegun. I'm convinced he's a Liberal plant to derail discussion. I say we collectively place him on ignore.
Those doctors were brave at Derek Sloans presentation.
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Have you ever noticed how many of these guys resort to childish name calling, but have nothing intelligent to say beyond this? It reminds me of being 8 years old and trading zingers at recess in elementary school. Of course it does, since that was only last week.
I was thinking the other day how much I used to hate Bill Clinton. He was freaking George Washington compared to what they are now.
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I hope Americans don't think any of us agree or even like saddlegun. I'm convinced he's a Liberal plant to derail discussion. I say we collectively place him on ignore.
Those doctors were brave at Derek Sloans presentation. saddle nutz is a dum progressive's sock puppet. pretty obvious from his ignorance concerning firearms
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