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Looking for some help gentlemen. My son has one of these that he is trying to get put back together. It came from classic I believe and was a parts gun. He has almost all the parts collected but a firing pin and spring and a rear action screw. Our main question is he cleaned all the cosmoline off the rifle and stock. What should he put back on the stock to protect it? The last 6" of barrel is pretty pitted but we are going to keep cleaning it and purchase some reloading supplies and get the old girl shooting again. Also does anyone have a good mild load for the oy to punch paper with?
Thank you for any help
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I am shooting Hornady 150gr PSP with 45 gr IMR 4064. I have two K98k German Mausers. One has a scope and it does 1 MOA with this load. The other is in the military configuration and I am the limiting factor shooting that one. Call it 2 MOA. I am calling one MOA, 5 shots in a 1 inch group at 100 yards.
I am equally hesitant to push the low limits as I am the high limits when charging ammo. My Hornady manual shows 43 to 51 grains. I am pretty close to the min at 45. Dont get the idea to cut back from that and work up. That 45 is, in my opinion, a start/min. This is the only load and only bullet I tried. I was happy, I called it qood and loaded up my first 100, using PPU new brass. That will be 50 per gun and next time, I will neck size.
I should also add, I was, kinda gifted, a 1000 bullets from a club member. I choose 4064, becasue that is what I had. I do that 4064 looks like a good choice to use with 170 grain bullets.
I was curious and just too a look at my Speer No9. That book recommends starting at 47 with a max at the same 51. I might be a little low. You judge.
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This followup,was all wrong. Sorry. DELETED.
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"Live like you'll die tomorrow, but manage your grass like you'll live forever." -S. M. Stirling
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This was one of my more stupid posts ever.
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8x57 and 7.65x53 do not use the "same brass".
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44/45 gr of IMR 4895 or 4064 with 150 gr Hornady SPs are reasonably accurate at 100 yds. and soft shooting in my 98K 8x57.
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OP said Model 1898. Speer lists loads for both 98 using 323 bullets and 91 using 311 bullets. I dont know anything about the 91. If that is wrong, not my fault. Huh? The 1891 was not made in 8x57. The 7.65x53 does not use the same brass as teh 8x57. They are very different.
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8x57 and 7.65x53 do not use the "same brass". I had to go back and re-read that (speer manual). You are right the 1891 was the Argentine Mauser. Different caliber. I should have known, I have one. As yet unfired. That is too bad, I made that error and totally derail the OP's thread. I hope it will not upset anyone, but; I like to go back and fix that. Wrong data is very bad when discussing hand loading, even incidental comments.
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It's ok. Like an old guy told me once "if you don't make mistakes you ain't workin'."
I have a Czech BRNO dot 43 98k Mauser that was a GI bring-back souvenir from Normandy in 1944. He stuck it into a pre-WWI style Stutzen sporter stock, one of his last acts before kicking the bucket, and then his son had it re-blued and stuck a Redfield receiver sight on it. Now I have it and with its good bore shoots very well indeed. The little I've shot it seemed to zero in with modest charges of 4064 and the 170 Sierra. That was 10 years ago now and I haven't shot it since. I ought to sell it along with the dies, brass, and bullets.....
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