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Thank god the north beat those southern pieces of [bleep].
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Interesting reading there, Mike. Thanks for posting it.
As much as I’ve been infatuated with Gettysburg, I’ve always thought that most people attach way too much importance to it. With Grant’s capture of Vicksburg, the die was already cast for the South’s defeat.
7mm I agree. I have said for years that on the fateful day of 04 July 1863, the Confederacy failed to win the war at Gettysburg and lost the war at Vicksburg. My great-grandmother's brother was with the 13th Mississippi Infantry Regt., Barksdale's Brigade, Longstreet's Corps at Gettysburg. Another great-grandmother's brother was with the 43rd Mississippi Infantry Regt. at Vicksburg. My great-grandfather was with the 40th Alabama Infantry Regt., Moore's Brigade at Vicksburg. My wife's great-gr-grandfather was with the 39th Georgia Infantry Regt. at Vicksburg. My people saw a lot of history made on that fateful day. My Great Grandfather Patton was at Vicksburg, or so I was told, but research of the 2nd Arkansas 2nd Arkansas infantry, that He was in, does not show them at Vicksburg. They were in a lot of major battles, and He mustered out in North Carolina at the end of the war. miles
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Thank god the north beat those southern pieces of [bleep]. This has earned you a place on my ignore list. You can go to Hell. miles
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MILES, Your getting slow in your old age I've had this BUTT HOLE on ignore, for a couple of months. Rio7
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Haven't paid much attention to Him until now. miles
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Thank god the north beat those southern pieces of [bleep]. This has earned you a place on my ignore list. You can go to Hell. miles Lol oh no!!! A guy who wishes the south won the civil war put me on his ignore list!!!! What am I going to do now?!?!?! Hahahha
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MILES, Your getting slow in your old age I've had this BUTT HOLE on ignore, for a couple of months. Rio7
This is 100% a lie since I havnt started posting regularly in this particular part of the forum for more than ~ 2 weeks. So many filthy, dishonest liars around here, it’s amazing.
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Thank god the north beat those southern pieces of [bleep]. I’m just curious as to why you think the South are pieces of schiit?
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Right before the battle, Lee had a heart episode. Also, he had fallen off his horse and just had the splints taken off right before the battle. I just wonder if he wasn't 100% for the battle. I can only imagine the stress. Pendleton was one of Lee's crones. He was also chummy with Davis. The top Confederate officers all went to Pendletons church in Richmond
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Thank god the north beat those southern pieces of [bleep]. I’m just curious as to why you think the South are pieces of schiit? I have no opinion of the current south, I was referring to the south st the time of the civil war.
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I've been close by twice over the last 10 years - visiting PA for work. Never made it there. Wish I had.
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Be interesting to see what historians consider the most studied battle of all time. Gettysburg? Waterloo? No idea what the answer would be but Gettysburg certainly lends itself to examining bit by bit.
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Thank god the north beat those southern pieces of [bleep]. I’m just curious as to why you think the South are pieces of schiit? I have no opinion of the current south, I was referring to the south st the time of the civil war. So was I. Why?
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Be interesting to see what historians consider the most studied battle of all time. Gettysburg? Waterloo? No idea what the answer would be but Gettysburg certainly lends itself to examining bit by bit. Have to think Midway or D-Day is on that list too, if just due to scale.
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Be interesting to see what historians consider the most studied battle of all time. Gettysburg? Waterloo? No idea what the answer would be but Gettysburg certainly lends itself to examining bit by bit. Have to think Midway or D-Day is on that list too, if just due to scale. Even though I served in the Navy, I was thinking along the lines on strictly land battles, but yeah, those would work. You could add Leyte Gulf and Jutland in that case.
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Be interesting to see what historians consider the most studied battle of all time. Gettysburg? Waterloo? No idea what the answer would be but Gettysburg certainly lends itself to examining bit by bit. What’s interesting to me is how much new pertaining to Gettysburg has been learned by Historians in my own lifetime. I’m not a Historian I just read the books they wrote. It was prob’ly around 1973 when I found Bruce Catton’s famous trilogy in my high school library. My first serious immersion in the history of that war. I should read it again to see how current it is.
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What’s interesting to me is how much new pertaining to Gettysburg has been learned by Historians in my own lifetime. What do you think that's based on? New sources like personal journals? Combing over old accounts?
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What’s interesting to me is how much new pertaining to Gettysburg has been learned by Historians in my own lifetime. What do you think that's based on? New sources like personal journals? Combing over old accounts? Has to be primary sources, which would include journals and accounts. Other valuable primary sources would icludd Quartermaster’s records and trade and mercantile inventories. I think looking at old evidence with new questions in mind helps too. For example AFAIK nobody questioned why Lee would commit less than 20% of his available manpower to his final attack of Day 3. Turns out Pickett’s charge was intended to be just one element of a larger plan. Tom Carhart’s “Lost Triumph: Lee’s Real Plan at Gettysburg” didn’t come out in print until 2005. https://www.amazon.com/Lost-Triumph-Lees-Gettysburg-Failed/dp/0425207919
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When Ted Turner was doing "Gettysburg", I could have been an extra in Pickets charge but was too busy, 1 of the biggest regrets of my life. Most of my Cousins went & they said there wasn't a dry eye among the Confederate extras.
The men in the Georgia part of my family joined Phillips Legion & were actively engaged at the battle.
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Thank god the north beat those southern pieces of [bleep]. Just imagine living around the Shenandoah valley and not being a non slave owner in that time period and having your home burned your crops burned and your livestock stolen what would you do
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