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This is the same velocity that I run my .270 Win/150 gr. Grand Slams, and they work very well also.



But for a high BC tipped boat tail cup-n-core, w/ that much expansion and retention?

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That penetration/expansion is easily accomplished by many bullets. Pretty bullets though.


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Looks unremarkable to me. Typical nonsense YouTube feel good video. What’s going to happen if he shoots the bullet into a deer and the expected results of the recovered bullet are not the same? Hilarious that the 1/2” group raised his confidence in his Tennessee deer rifle. I wonder how far his average shot is on deer there.

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I love Sierra bullets for accuracy and I have shot quite a few critters with the 30 cal 180 and 165 BTSP gameking. The cores separated about half of the time so I was surprised that they stayed together for him.


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The 150’s work well in a 308. They are great bullets.

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I’ve not yet shot game with them, but my 6.5 likes the HSM loading with the 130s and 140s and my the -06 the 165s.


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Originally Posted by jmp300wsm
I love Sierra bullets for accuracy and I have shot quite a few critters with the 30 cal 180 and 165 BTSP gameking. The cores separated about half of the time so I was surprised that they stayed together for him.


Yeah these bullets have quite a high failure rate. Not even on my radar, but buy whatever you like I guess.

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Originally Posted by Llama_Bob
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I love Sierra bullets for accuracy and I have shot quite a few critters with the 30 cal 180 and 165 BTSP gameking. The cores separated about half of the time so I was surprised that they stayed together for him.


Yeah these bullets have quite a high failure rate. Not even on my radar, but buy whatever you like I guess.


What do you consider failure?


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In this case core/jacket separation and fragmentation.

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I don't have a SINGLE green box of bullets in my stash !
There are reasons for that.


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Originally Posted by Llama_Bob
In this case core/jacket separation and fragmentation.



Did it kill the animal?


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Originally Posted by Llama_Bob
In this case core/jacket separation and fragmentation.

More accurately, your expectations didn’t meet reality.

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Originally Posted by cra1948
Originally Posted by Llama_Bob
In this case core/jacket separation and fragmentation.



Did it kill the animal?

Really?
Just because a bullet kills an animal does NOT mean it lived up to design performance.


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Originally Posted by jwall
Originally Posted by cra1948
Originally Posted by Llama_Bob
In this case core/jacket separation and fragmentation.



Did it kill the animal?

Really?
Just because a bullet kills an animal does NOT mean it lived up to design performance.


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So true, however if the result in question is not a claim made by the manufacturer then its not a failure. For example, I don’t see any claims made by Sierra that the GameKing is designed to retain its jacket, therefore if it looses its jacket, it’s not a failure.

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I’ve got some 165 SGK sent to me by mistake but they shoot well, actually close to my hunting load POI. Never been a fan of boolits known to come apart. We’ve got a cougar hanging around and they have his name on it…..Sylvester


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Ive hunted quite a bit with Pro Hunters and GameKings. Frequently they have lost jackets but they always worked well for me. Great CC bullet I think.

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Originally Posted by jwall
Originally Posted by cra1948
Originally Posted by Llama_Bob
In this case core/jacket separation and fragmentation.



Did it kill the animal?

Really?
Just because a bullet kills an animal does NOT mean it lived up to design performance.


Some things just won’t go away.

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Exactly. Gut shooting an animal with a 22 will kill it. That doesn't mean it's an effective and humane means of hunting.

Similarly, the wounds from frangible bullets will eventually kill and animal. But the animal may go a very long way. The whole purpose of a well though out hunting bullet is to maximize the chance of an expanded straight-line pass through. That way you damage whatever vital organ(s) and support bones you lined up your shot on, and have a good exit wound blood trail to follow if the animal doesn't go do wn immediately.

The SGK is a failure at this basic task. There are plenty of bullets that do it much, much better. Now, people can shoot whatever the hell they want within the game laws, but a smart hunter will use a better bullet. The cost is trivial compared to the benefit.

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Originally Posted by Llama_Bob
Originally Posted by jwall
Originally Posted by cra1948
Originally Posted by Llama_Bob
In this case core/jacket separation and fragmentation.



Did it kill the animal?

Really?
Just because a bullet kills an animal does NOT mean it lived up to design performance.


Some things just won’t go away.

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Exactly. Gut shooting an animal with a 22 will kill it. That doesn't mean it's an effective and humane means of hunting.

Similarly, the wounds from frangible bullets will eventually kill and animal. But the animal may go a very long way. The whole purpose of a well though out hunting bullet is to maximize the chance of an expanded straight-line pass through. That way you damage whatever vital organ(s) and support bones you lined up your shot on, and have a good exit wound blood trail to follow if the animal doesn't go do wn immediately.

The SGK is a failure at this basic task. There are plenty of bullets that do it much, much better. Now, people can shoot whatever the hell they want within the game laws, but a smart hunter will use a better bullet. The cost is trivial compared to the benefit.

Just a failure to meet your expectations.

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Dead is dead. Been using Sierra bullets for many years. They are accurate and will work on game.

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