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I was intending to buy the SA RO Target in 9mm as discussed on a previous thread. But GBroker still has not gotten my account unscrewed, as it turns out, providently.
I got a phone call today from a dear friend. Several here know exactly to whom I refer.
He offered me a Kimber SS Target II with barrels in 9mm, 38 super, and 10 mm at a price I absolutely can not refuse. The gun shoots, as friend has won a couple matches with it, and he would not be selling it to me if it did not.
Lightly used, just a few boxes of ammo through it.
So begins the journey down another rabbit hole, that of autoloaders.
At this rate I might even end up purchasing an autoloading rifle of some nature in the future. LOL
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9mm, 38 Super and 10mm.
Nice little package.
Gonna break your wallet setting up to load for that outfit.
But, 9mm would be easy enough. Hopefully, things loosen up soon. Ammo is available. Maybe components will be soon, and prices will get better.
(Fingers crossed)
Anyway, sounds great. Enjoy.
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I have a shotgun so I have no need for a 30-06.....
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Already have dies for the nine, 2000 berry's bullets and several pounds of appropriate powders. My kids have several nines amongst the crowd.
I might even break down and purchase a couple thousand super and 10 mm factory loads to get the brass. Then purchase dies as they once again become available.
We'll see what becomes available and when. But for now, I can shoot the 9mm barrel.
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Starline has 10mm and 38 Super brass in stock.
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I did not know that 10 mm would work in a 9mm/38 super/ slide. I thought 10mm were switched with 45acp slides also 40 S&W will switch on 45 slides.
Sounds like a nice pistol though. Congrats !
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You’ll love it. I’ve got that same gun in 10mm. Very accurate. And it’s never hiccuped once. Congratulations!
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I did not know that 10 mm would work in a 9mm/38 super/ slide. I thought 10mm were switched with 45acp slides also 40 S&W will switch on 45 slides.
Sounds like a nice pistol though. Congrats ! Seems to be a Kimber thing. According to the expert and previous owner. He says, just change the barrel and recoil spring included with each barrel.
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Starline has 10mm and 38 Super brass in stock. Thanks Ed, I hope they still have both after I recover from the gun purchase. Checking out bullet molds too. Probably burn a lot of Berry's for a while.
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I did not know that 10 mm would work in a 9mm/38 super/ slide. I thought 10mm were switched with 45acp slides also 40 S&W will switch on 45 slides.
Sounds like a nice pistol though. Congrats ! A Dillon shellplate is the same, for all three, you only change locator buttons, so that stands reason that it is within tolerances.
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Here's a pic of the new baby all ready to be shipped out West. Bob said it was okay to mention "The enabler claims another victim."
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I did not know that 10 mm would work in a 9mm/38 super/ slide. I thought 10mm were switched with 45acp slides also 40 S&W will switch on 45 slides.
Sounds like a nice pistol though. Congrats ! Bob says Kimber cuts the breach face the same for 9mm/38 Super as they do for 40/10mm. Most others do not.
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I did not know that 10 mm would work in a 9mm/38 super/ slide. I thought 10mm were switched with 45acp slides also 40 S&W will switch on 45 slides.
Sounds like a nice pistol though. Congrats ! Bob says Kimber cuts the breach face the same for 9mm/38 Super as they do for 40/10mm. Most others do not. Yep
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I was intending to buy the SA RO Target in 9mm as discussed on a previous thread. But GBroker still has not gotten my account unscrewed, as it turns out, providently.
I got a phone call today from a dear friend. Several here know exactly to whom I refer.
He offered me a Kimber SS Target II with barrels in 9mm, 38 super, and 10 mm at a price I absolutely can not refuse. The gun shoots, as friend has won a couple matches with it, and he would not be selling it to me if it did not.
Lightly used, just a few boxes of ammo through it.
So begins the journey down another rabbit hole, that of autoloaders.
At this rate I might even end up purchasing an autoloading rifle of some nature in the future. LOL
The real rabbit hole is 38 Super. It’s addictive. Extremely so. It’s as bad as the 41 mag. It’s a wicked good cartridge and perfect for the 1911. Go forth and have fun. p.s. The 1911 is the perfect autoloader and as addictive as the Super chambering.
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Nice pistol, my son bought a Kimber .22 conversion kit yesterday for a what I consider a steal.
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Here's a pic of the new baby all ready to be shipped out West. - That looks familiar . . .
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Here's a pic of the new baby all ready to be shipped out West. Bob said it was okay to mention "The enabler claims another victim." I knew who it was, cause i know who visited you recently. i also remember the pistola being built he is a questionable influence on keeping one broke. I can hear him cackling from here. he is cackling when he mentions an "enabler" claiming another victim. after you get past the sticker shock, probably will enjoy the gun
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Well it looks nice. I hope you get what you want out of it. Mb
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Here's a pic of the new baby all ready to be shipped out West. Bob said it was okay to mention "The enabler claims another victim." I knew who it was, cause i know who visited you recently. i also remember the pistola being built he is a questionable influence on keeping one broke. I can hear him cackling from here. he is cackling when he mentions an "enabler" claiming another victim. after you get past the sticker shock, probably will enjoy the gun Sticker was no shock. I had been pricing 1911s for about a month. I hope Bob made a little bit on the exchange. But I would not bet that he did. Just about as many $ spent since on three sets of dies, bullets, and 1000 pcs of brass. I have not found a source yet for 9mm brass. Starline does not even have 9mm on backorder.
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Here's a pic of the new baby all ready to be shipped out West. - That looks familiar . . . Were you a previous owner?
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Finally got my paws on the gun. It sure seems nice to me, but I am not a real judge. I really like the action of the trigger.
My 10mm dies are still a couple weeks out, so I pulled the 10mm barrel and spring, and set it up for 38 Super. By Noon tomorrow I will have 500 rounds loaded with 115 gr Berry's RNHB over 5 gr of Universal in new Starline brass.
It's a pretty light load, but it will do for practice and to learn the pistol.
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If it works well and shoots well, the name on the frame is insignificant. I think you'll have more fun with the Super parts installed than the others, but that is for you to decide (I also have .45s and a 10mm). The 9mm I've been shooting is fun, but it's not a Super. That load you mentioned is pretty minimal, I think I'd up it to 5.5gr., just to have a bit more zip. No matter, it'll be for you to decide, but I think it will be a favorite without much effort at all. They can be a heckuva lot of fun.
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You were right about the load. Empties eject right at my feet, when they eject.
12 rounds fired into three inches at thirty feet. That is all I can do with any handgun without a rest. Three failure to feed, two failure to eject.
It needs more zip, or a lighter recoil spring. It is so comfortable to shoot, I will add zip. Make it an actual Super instead of a light 9.
Hogdgons Annual says 5.5 gr is a max load with a 115.
Sierra says 5.9 is minimum with Universal, with 6.7 as max with jacketed bullets.
I will try another dozen at 5.5, and then see how she runs with 6 gr.
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Yes, it runs well with a little more zip.
115 gr Berry's RNHB, 6 gr of Universal ejects well, recoil is neglegible. 6.5 gr Universal is still very comfortable to shoot. 7.0 gr Universal. In Handloader a couple years ago Brian Pierce clocked this load at over 1400 fps in the same make and model pistol. I ran three mags through the gun. It is easy to shoot, but you know it has some power. It rocks the steel target at 50 yds.
Plans are now to run it at 6.7 gr Universal until I get some 147 gr bullets to work with.
Absolutely thrilled with the gun!
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Outstanding! I knew you'd like it after you fool with it a bit.It's pretty hard NOT to like them if you give them a chance.
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I got to shoot the 10mm barrel today. 180 gr Berry's Flatpoint over 6.5 gr Universal with Rem LRP. It is a joy to shoot. Very comfortable and easy to bring back on target. 90% of rounds landed in a six inch circle at 25 paces.
Only downside, is chasing empty brass after fifty years of shooting bolt rifles, single shot rifles, and revolvers.
I fired the first two rounds from outside the covered range. The brass landed on the roof. CRAP! LOL.
So I moved back five yards and got under the roof.
I have some 200 gr cast flat nose coming. That will be the nest trial. 200s at 1200 fps over Longshot.
I scored two new Kimber 10mm mags at the LGS yesterday. The gun came with the original Kimber mag. I ran each of the three mags through the gun twice. Absolutely flawless operation.
This one, and the S&W 657 Mountain Gun. The kids will have to fight over who gets to pry them from my cold dead fingers.
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