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Judge Rejects Arizona Senate’s Motion to Keep Election Audit Records Private #16256797 07/16/21
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BY ISABEL VAN BRUGEN July 16, 2021

A judge on Thursday rejected the Arizona Senate’s motion to dismiss a public records lawsuit relating to its independent full audit of ballots cast in Maricopa County in the 2020 election.

The lawsuit was filed by watchdog group American Oversight and sought records of communications between Senate officials and external vendors working on the audit, including Florida-based cybersecurity firm Cyber Ninjas, a private company hired by the Arizona Senate to oversee the audit of Arizona’s most populous county. It also sought documents related to the cost of the audit, donor information, and its operations.

“It is difficult to conceive of a case with a more compelling public interest demanding public disclosure and public scrutiny,” Judge Michael Kemp of the Arizona Superior Court in Maricopa County wrote in a seven-page ruling (pdf).

Kemp said that he “completely rejects” the arguments presented by the defendants’ lawyers.

“Nothing in the statute absolves Senate defendants’ responsibilities to keep and maintain records for authorities supported by public monies by merely retaining a third-party contractor who in turns hires subvendors,” Kemp wrote.

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Maricopa County ballots cast in the 2020 general election are examined and recounted by contractors working for Florida-based company, Cyber Ninjas, at Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Phoenix, Ariz., on May 6, 2021. (Matt York/AP Photo)
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Keeping the election audit records private “would be an absurd result and undermine Arizona’s strong public policy in favor of permitting access to records reflecting governmental activity,” the judge said in his decision.

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Kemp said records on who is funding the audit should be released to the public, saying that the $150,000 the Arizona Senate is paying Cyber Ninjas “appears to be far short of paying the full cost.’’

“The public does not know who is financing the remaining costs,’’ he wrote.

Kemp said information related to the audit information is covered under the state’s public records law because Arizona Senate President Karen Fann has said that the audit is a public function.

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Fann previously stated that the remaining costs of the audit are covered by donors and contributions.

“Starting now, the Arizona Senate is going to have to face real, public accountability,” Austin Evers, American Oversight’s executive director said in a statement. “For months, the public has been asked to trust the word of senators about the sham audit of the 2020 election. Arizona law does not allow the Senate to outsource democracy and shroud it in secrecy. This ruling makes clear that the Senate must immediately begin releasing records to the public.”

Meanwhile, Democrats on the House Oversight and Reform Committee on Wednesday launched a probe into Cyber Ninjas.

In a letter to (pdf) to Cyber Ninja’s CEO Douglas Logan, House Oversight Chairwoman Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y.) and Rep. Jamie Raskin, (D-Md.) said they are probing whether the company is working to “reverse the result of a free and fair election for partisan gain.”

The pair asked for documents related to the audit, including information about how it is being funded. They are also asking for any and all communications between the cybersecurity firm and former President Donald Trump or his allies.

Cyber Ninjas, Fann, and former Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett, a Republican serving as the audit’s liaison, didn’t immediately respond to requests for comment.

Fann previously told The Epoch Times that senators had been told by Cyber Ninjas that the auditors would report on the total cost of the operation after the audit is complete and that they would comply with federal reporting requirements.



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Re: Judge Rejects Arizona Senate’s Motion to Keep Election Audit Records Private [Re: local_dirt] #16256927 07/16/21
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Insanity to keep voting records secret.

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Originally Posted by local_dirt
Meanwhile, Democrats on the House Oversight and Reform Committee on Wednesday launched a probe into Cyber Ninjas.

In a letter to (pdf) to Cyber Ninja’s CEO Douglas Logan, House Oversight Chairwoman Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y.) and Rep. Jamie Raskin, (D-Md.) said they are probing whether the company is working to “reverse the result of a free and fair election for partisan gain.”

Apparently the concept of Federalism escapes Maloney & Raskin. Arizona is managing their own INTERNAL affairs.

Here's where it gets interesting.

If, a BIG IF, Maloney & Raskin succeed, then suddenly Texas and all other states magically attain standing with SCOTUS to challenge other states' results.

Can't have it both ways. Unless you're progressive.

Re: Judge Rejects Arizona Senate’s Motion to Keep Election Audit Records Private [Re: local_dirt] #16256950 07/16/21
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How do we know it was a free and fair election if Democrats block all inquiries into the election? Take their word for it????


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Re: Judge Rejects Arizona Senate’s Motion to Keep Election Audit Records Private [Re: local_dirt] #16256972 07/16/21
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Arizona senate should stonewall everything until Maricopa county provides the previously subpoenaed routers, access logs, tally slips, etc.

Can't demand transparency from just one side, judge.

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Re: Judge Rejects Arizona Senate’s Motion to Keep Election Audit Records Private [Re: local_dirt] #16257005 07/16/21
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by the people and for the people means the people get to look at what you are doing and basing your decisions on.
just saying....
The founding documents are pretty clear about that...


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Re: Judge Rejects Arizona Senate’s Motion to Keep Election Audit Records Private [Re: Terryk] #16257015 07/16/21
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Originally Posted by Terryk
Insanity to keep voting records secret.

Depends on what ya hiding.

Woke crowd thinks it makes sense. Keepin’em outta jail.

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Re: Judge Rejects Arizona Senate’s Motion to Keep Election Audit Records Private [Re: local_dirt] #16257018 07/16/21
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The only path to destroying the audit is to muddy the waters so much that they can make people believe there was criminal intent on the republican senate's part in funding an audit. Truth is the audit cost a lot more because the county wouldn't allow the facilities to be used for it and they in turn had to rent the stadium. It took a lot longer because of all the stonewalling on the county's part. Kemp is culpable and cannot afford to have it known he confirmed a rigged election. The entire country is anxiously awaiting the audit results. How we got there is pretty much moot at this point. If I have to donate more money I'll do it so Arizona won't be out any more of their precious money than necessary.

If the Supreme Court had only allowed the suit we wouldn't be here in the first place. All the states have standing in a national election. Rigged elections hurt the Nation. This one surely has.

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If the audit shows issues - watch for the call to be to audit the audit. The plan is drag this out until they can completely bury it in the national consciousness.


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Both spot on.

What’s really funny is the level of hypocrisy by the left , including judges, doesn’t embarrass them one iota.

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Originally Posted by JeffP
rainshot and teal
Both spot on.

What’s really funny is the level of hypocrisy by the left , including judges, doesn’t embarrass them one iota.





If there's one thing I've learned in my many years on this planet, it's that you cannot shame, embarrass or point out their hypocrisy to a true liberal. They don't possess the gene of self-introspection, and they are certainly incapable of genuine bias-free critical analysis.

You can prove that quickly by simply reading the posts of the liberal trolls that spew on this site.



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Re: Judge Rejects Arizona Senate’s Motion to Keep Election Audit Records Private [Re: Remsen] #16257604 07/16/21
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Originally Posted by Remsen
How do we know it was a free and fair election if Democrats block all inquiries into the election? Take their word for it????


With all of this in mind, ALL legislative action in Washington D.C. should stop. Now that the credibility of the honesty of the election is in doubt, all legislative processes, debating, voting and bill signing SHOULD STOP IMMEDIATELY.

It's obvious that Arizona and Georgia may of held flawed elections and the wrong person was certified. It's probably the same in Pennsylvania and Michigan. Until all issues have been resolved, everything in Washington D.C needs to stop.

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Originally Posted by Remsen
How do we know it was a free and fair election if Democrats block all inquiries into the election? Take their word for it????


The question the Judge ruled on was; How do we know it was a free and fair audit if Republicans block all inquiries into the audit? Take their word for it????

Judge pulls back the curtain.

Interesting times we live in.


Remember why, specifically, the Bill of Rights was written...remember its purpose. It was written to limit the power of government over the individual.

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Originally Posted by Squidge
Originally Posted by Remsen
How do we know it was a free and fair election if Democrats block all inquiries into the election? Take their word for it????


The question the Judge ruled on was; How do we know it was a free and fair audit if Republicans block all inquiries into the audit? Take their word for it????

Judge pulls back the curtain.

Interesting times we live in.
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Goebbels style spin. You are a good little Nazi.

Re: Judge Rejects Arizona Senate’s Motion to Keep Election Audit Records Private [Re: Teal] #16257679 07/16/21
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Originally Posted by Teal
If the audit shows issues - watch for the call to be to audit the audit. The plan is drag this out until they can completely bury it in the national consciousness.




The d'Rats are already pushing that.



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Re: Judge Rejects Arizona Senate’s Motion to Keep Election Audit Records Private [Re: rickt300] #16257687 07/16/21
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It's a fair question. Free, fair, and transparent is a double edged sword. Only a Nazi like your yourself would think otherwise.


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IMHO, the audits should go on......... they need to be exposed.

The idea of removing Biden and putting in TRUMP is not going to happen.

There is no US Constitutional provision, mechanism, process that elects a POTUS by a popular vote of the citizenry.

The States had their electors cast their votes and Biden 'won'...... Each State needs to deal with the process.

Again, there is no provision in the Constitution for the States to say after the fact, 'our bad, we messed up, here's the right numbers' and get it all undone. IMHO.

I wanted TRiUMPh in the Office again, I don't want him to get back in with an abbreviated term.

Let the left have JoeKamal for the rest of the term, hopefully Congress will switch Party Control next year, TRiUMPh, or a surrogate, can then come in with a full 4 years and run amok.....

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What if it takes two years to determine the resident of the White House was not legally elected and he is removed from office and the legally elected President serves the last two years of this term. Is Trump then eligible to run for election in 2024 thereby serving 10 years as President of the United States of America?

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Originally Posted by local_dirt
Chicken scratching.


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BY ISABEL VAN BRUGEN July 16, 2021

A judge on Thursday rejected the Arizona Senate’s motion to dismiss a public records lawsuit relating to its independent full audit of ballots cast in Maricopa County in the 2020 election.

The lawsuit was filed by watchdog group American Oversight and sought records of communications between Senate officials and external vendors working on the audit, including Florida-based cybersecurity firm Cyber Ninjas, a private company hired by the Arizona Senate to oversee the audit of Arizona’s most populous county. It also sought documents related to the cost of the audit, donor information, and its operations.

“It is difficult to conceive of a case with a more compelling public interest demanding public disclosure and public scrutiny,” Judge Michael Kemp of the Arizona Superior Court in Maricopa County wrote in a seven-page ruling (pdf).

Kemp said that he “completely rejects” the arguments presented by the defendants’ lawyers.

“Nothing in the statute absolves Senate defendants’ responsibilities to keep and maintain records for authorities supported by public monies by merely retaining a third-party contractor who in turns hires subvendors,” Kemp wrote.

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Maricopa County ballots cast in the 2020 general election are examined and recounted by contractors working for Florida-based company, Cyber Ninjas, at Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Phoenix, Ariz., on May 6, 2021. (Matt York/AP Photo)
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Keeping the election audit records private “would be an absurd result and undermine Arizona’s strong public policy in favor of permitting access to records reflecting governmental activity,” the judge said in his decision.

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Kemp said records on who is funding the audit should be released to the public, saying that the $150,000 the Arizona Senate is paying Cyber Ninjas “appears to be far short of paying the full cost.’’

“The public does not know who is financing the remaining costs,’’ he wrote.

Kemp said information related to the audit information is covered under the state’s public records law because Arizona Senate President Karen Fann has said that the audit is a public function.

RELATED
Arizona Senate President Says 2020 Election Audit's Ballot Count Doesn’t Match Maricopa Tally
Arizona Senate President Says 2020 Election Audit's Ballot Count Doesn’t Match Maricopa Tally
Fann previously stated that the remaining costs of the audit are covered by donors and contributions.

“Starting now, the Arizona Senate is going to have to face real, public accountability,” Austin Evers, American Oversight’s executive director said in a statement. “For months, the public has been asked to trust the word of senators about the sham audit of the 2020 election. Arizona law does not allow the Senate to outsource democracy and shroud it in secrecy. This ruling makes clear that the Senate must immediately begin releasing records to the public.”

Meanwhile, Democrats on the House Oversight and Reform Committee on Wednesday launched a probe into Cyber Ninjas.

In a letter to (pdf) to Cyber Ninja’s CEO Douglas Logan, House Oversight Chairwoman Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y.) and Rep. Jamie Raskin, (D-Md.) said they are probing whether the company is working to “reverse the result of a free and fair election for partisan gain.”

The pair asked for documents related to the audit, including information about how it is being funded. They are also asking for any and all communications between the cybersecurity firm and former President Donald Trump or his allies.

Cyber Ninjas, Fann, and former Arizona Secretary of State Ken Bennett, a Republican serving as the audit’s liaison, didn’t immediately respond to requests for comment.

Fann previously told The Epoch Times that senators had been told by Cyber Ninjas that the auditors would report on the total cost of the operation after the audit is complete and that they would comply with federal reporting requirements.


I wonder what the Arizona Senate feels like they have to hide?


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