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What is the latest and greatest best make and model? Looking for portability and power.
I’m very familiar with the use of charged fence. Looking for a camp model.
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I use this Kencove charger. It'll run at least a couple of weeks on 4 D cells or much longer on a small 12v battery. The trick is to get a good ground. During hunting season, the soil here is usually very dry and I can't get a decent ground without some work. I dig 2 shallow holes a foot or more apart and pound in 2 18" rods which I connect together with wire and clamps. Then I fill the holes with water. After it soaks down a bit (possibly refilling the holes with more water), I get a pretty good ground. KENCOVE STRIP GRAZER
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I use the tractor supply brand for around my garden.
Built in battery and solar charger.
It’s the pulse type, maybe all battery powered are...
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I use this Kencove charger. It'll run at least a couple of weeks on 4 D cells or much longer on a small 12v battery. The trick is to get a good ground. During hunting season, the soil here is usually very dry and I can't get a decent ground without some work. I dig 2 shallow holes a foot or more apart and pound in 2 18" rods which I connect together with wire and clamps. Then I fill the holes with water. After it soaks down a bit (possibly refilling the holes with more water), I get a pretty good ground. KENCOVE STRIP GRAZERHow many total feet of wire/tape do you use typically?
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
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I use this Kencove charger. It'll run at least a couple of weeks on 4 D cells or much longer on a small 12v battery. The trick is to get a good ground. During hunting season, the soil here is usually very dry and I can't get a decent ground without some work. I dig 2 shallow holes a foot or more apart and pound in 2 18" rods which I connect together with wire and clamps. Then I fill the holes with water. After it soaks down a bit (possibly refilling the holes with more water), I get a pretty good ground. KENCOVE STRIP GRAZERHow many total feet of wire/tape do you use typically? About 750' but it'll handle more than that. I read somewhere that you need 1 joule/mile. This is .35 joule so if that's true it would be good for about 1800'.
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Do you prefer the tape or the rope? I've ran both off bigger chargers. The tape always seemed to have places where it arced and ate through the plastic. The rope was easily fixed with some wire wrapped around it. Been a long time since I ran a string around camp with a battery powered charger. At least that's testable with the back of your hand. But then again, if it's that weak will it do what I'm asking it to do?
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I use tape only because it's more visible. I think rope has better conductivity. What matters is how much bare wire is on the outside of the rope or tape where the animal hits it. Since the ground here is usually very dry during hunting season, the animal might not be in conductive contact with the ground so it doesn't get much of a shock. I had to train my llamas to respect it by setting it up at home when the ground was wet and letting them learn what it does. I haven't had a problem in the last 5 or 6 years. I also had to go to 3 wires. I had 1 llama that would lay flat on his belly, put his chin on the ground, and belly crawl under it. The fleece insulates their backs and necks. It was funny to watch but I had to add a wire about a foot off the ground that would hit his ears. It only took a couple times to eddycate him. They aren't dumb.
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I use tape only because it's more visible. I think rope has better conductivity. What matters is how much bare wire is on the outside of the rope or tape where the animal hits it. Since the ground here is usually very dry during hunting season, the animal might not be in conductive contact with the ground so it doesn't get much of a shock. I had to train my llamas to respect it by setting it up at home when the ground was wet and letting them learn what it does. I haven't had a problem in the last 5 or 6 years. I also had to go to 3 wires. I had 1 llama that would lay flat on his belly, put his chin on the ground, and belly crawl under it. The fleece insulates their backs and necks. I had to add a wire about a foot off the ground that would hit his ears. They aren't dumb. Yeah, when I was running drift fences for a ranch I worked for the dry ground was a bitch. Both for grounding the charger and hoping the cows'd be zapped. Tape was visible enough you hoped twixt the 2 it'd work. But for toothy critters that DGAF I still wonder.
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A few months ago, I ordered the Parmak MAG-12-SP. Cost about $300. So far it's been flawless. Not a deer track in the pea patch.
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I run a Parmak Solar Pak 12 with the tape. Don't touch it!
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The OP wants this one for camping so it has to be portable. A battery operated one is as portable as you can get.
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I will admit that I know nothing about electric fences but I need to learn. Is there any risk of a short or other situation that could cause a dry grass fire?
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I will admit that I know nothing about electric fences but I need to learn. Is there any risk of a short or other situation that could cause a dry grass fire? You usually get the sparks when the grass is wet, not dry. A lightning strike can run the length of the wire. THAT will get dry grass cooking. That can happen with any fence, though, not just electric.
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I will admit that I know nothing about electric fences but I need to learn. Is there any risk of a short or other situation that could cause a dry grass fire? My understanding is the oooooold chargers that didn't pulse it yes. I have been told they still sell those chargers, but I've never seen one. On modern fence chargers, the spark if present, would maybe ignite some gas vapors but not dry grass.
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gotta ask. Why do you need a electric fence around camp?
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Gallagher or Parmak. I've had good luck with both.
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gotta ask. Why do you need a electric fence around camp? We have bears. Also intend to use it for horses. Maybe near home where extension cords won’t reach.
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