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I've seen the stats. They support what I said.

I see you support the big lie, like Trump does. Have a great day.

60% of the human population have T-Cell immunity.

Next stupid theory!

Yeah, I'd take that "report" (more like an unsubstantiated rumor) with a couple teaspoons of salt.

In the past couple weeks in my ER we have seen this current surge of COVID cases, just like everywhere else. We are keeping track of how many cases are in vaccinated people, and how many in non-vaccinated folks. To date more than 90% of these sickies are not vaccinated. Oh, and 100% of the hospital admissions have been non-vaccinated persons.

These numbers are consistent with ACTUAL reports I'm getting from other docs in Canada and the USA.

Of course, the government-controlled fearmoner mill--er, I mean the Mainstream Media--are pushing for full-blown panic in the general population, so they are quick to report the most inflammatory "news".

Pretty much like this forum, and the OP on this thread. If you actually read what the numbers out of Israel are, they do not support the lies of the anti-vax folks.

Doc, did you forget, facts and truth are not welcome in these discussions lest one be labeled a queer, democratic, communist, pussy, fraidycat.

I know more people, in my circle, that were hospitalized from the vaccine than Covid.

Good info, and thanks for sharing. It's a fairly polarizing issue, but like many such issues, there are sensible people caught in the middle. There are those that think the shot does offer some obvious benifits regarding probablity of hospitalization with Covid, but is it worth it if you aren't in a higher-risk bracket? What levels of hospitalizations does a person have to see among their contemporaries to justify injecting an experimental RNA drug they don't yet trust? It's a valid question for anybody and everybody. There's an actual threshold somewhere, as with any other risk vs. reward scenario.

There is no cure for a cold virus, nor a lab enhancement cold virus.

You are a big time gullible koolaid drinker if you think they fast tracked a cold virus cure.

Any accurate data on hospitalization regarding those who previously contracted covid? Is anyone collecting that data because hit would seem, based on science, to be extremely important.

You're aware of the Cleveland Clinic study I presume.

Obviously not anti vax as Ive had all my childhood vaxes which wiped out deadly diseases plus dozens of vaccines in the military and when I worked abroad.

Most have issues that this vax was pushed so quickly with little oversight or long term research or data

Thanks

My circle is pretty big (not to be taken as mine is bigger than yours) due to my work and I know that by a long shot most have been vaccinated. Very few have not, but not a single vaccinated person that I know of in my circle has been hospitalized, paralyzed, or even traumatized. Some have had sore arms and even fewer had flu-like symptoms for a day or so.

I would take my non medical analysis and DocRocket's analysis as the more likely scenario of what is transpiring across the country. It is my opinion, but my BS meter goes off when I see posts that say all these vaccinated people are dying or being hospitalized. There is no way for you to know how many people I talk to daily and how far it ranges, but there has not been a single instance that confirms what you are saying. I am not saying you are lying, but I would have an easier time believing that there may be multiples in your circle that have had that reaction if I could confirm it with even a single instance in my experience.

I am also being specific to your post. I do not know of a single person that has been hospitalized due to taking any of the 3 vaccines. I do believe that there have been people hospitalized that have been vaccinated, but for other ailments. Not simply due to the fact they were vaccinated and had such a horrible reaction that required hospitalization. That is the law of numbers. I also believe that there have been people that have died of Covid that are vaccinated. Another law of numbers.

Don't forget that there were also a few severe adverse reactions, death being one, from the Smallpox vaccine. There were also other severe adverse reactions from that vaccine which was somewhere in the 90s for efficacy. Which means it wasn't 100% effective, but it was eventually successful amongst other reasons for eradicating if from a natural occurrence. Took a long damn time, but we finally got there.

I know over 30 people now, some front line medical workers, who chose not to get vaccinated and contracted covid. Everyone advised that it was no worse than a brief cold. Almost half experienced no symptoms but still tested positive. Ages 2 to 87. All were active and led healthy lifestyles

Should they still be vaccinated?

Seems credible, LOL

Lock down will coincide with the 2022 elections. And, we all know what the means.

So, may need to treat with Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin.

DF


Edited to add, we'll treat the conservatives, lock down the libtards....

ribka,

What part of my post said that anyone should get vaccinated? Get it if you want and own the consequences if any. Don't get it if you don't want to and own those consequences if any. I know of many that have tested positive, but sailed right through it just fine that were not vaccinated. I can't say that I had any 2 year olds share their Covid experience with me, but maybe you have. I also have two family members that died of it prior to vaccinations being available.

My post was pretty clear in what I was addressing. It had nothing to do with promoting that people get vaccinated. It was only to question based off my similar experience to erikj that pointed the opposite direction.

Yessss .. sort of. If it is effective in reducing serious sicknesses and deaths among people who do get sick, though, and if those who have been sick and survived develop immunity that actually prevents sickness as well, it could be step 1 of a 2-step process. On the other hand, do those who get jabbed and then get COVID develop the natural antibodies or not? Hmmm.

Hell if I know, just ... thinking out loud.

Perhaps you’d like to share them?

I only piped up when I read DocRocket's personal observations. Two employees I worked with, were both sent to the ER within hours of getting Moderna shot. Our neighbor had it so rough, she's selling her place to live closer to a health care facility. I know others that gutted it out. Most of the people I've talked to didn't have any issues getting vaccinated. Personally, I'm waiting on the longer term data. Messing with DNA could be more problematic than Covid.

Complete tin foil hat bullshit. Over 90% of new cases are unvaccinated and over 97% of hospitalizations are unvaccinated.

I know three people that contracted the “delta variant” in the past two weeks.

One was vaccinated and all three enjoyed their paid 10 day vacations.