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Originally Posted by renegade50
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That’s because people typically have to love America to serve in a combat service.

Ditto.....


A myth largely perpetuated to fill in rank and file.

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Originally Posted by JakeBlues
That’s because people typically have to love America to serve in a combat service.

That is not true. History shows us people follow authority regardless.

History show us the dynamic seems to be ...
1) People are brought into service using shallow methods, like monetary incentives, phony macho propaganda, or conscription.
2) Then tough rule of law and threat of penalty maintains compliance.
3) Once in combat moral is built through the band of brother phenomenon. Battles are won through unit cohesion and moral which may have nothing to do with "love of country". The band of brother phenomenon dominates at the unit level in really rough combat.

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Originally Posted by Slavek
Extra military/police presence is needed because scenes from January 6th did tremendous damage to the United States. One wonders how can someone lead the free world if they can not get their own house together. Those scenes involving halloween clad people can never be repeated.


The tremendous damage to the United States was done when the cheating and fraud in the election was allowed to happen and stand which put biden in the White House. Not the events from Jan 6.


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Originally Posted by renegade50
" Slavek" is just another 24hr garden variety Liberal Socialist Democrat sockpuppet.
Not the Eurotrashland resident persona he crafted for this sockpuppet.....

Probably Masar or JeffO.....

Nothing more, nothing less....

They make money for Bin through controversy.
Only reason why they are allowed to exist here and the 0 qc registration process for the site.....

Word........


I was surfing thru some of the campfire pages for something and must have hit a wrong button, as I ended up with a page, I've never run across before..
but it was a background on Slavek here...with that handle, you'd think or lead to believe he would be from somewhere out of Eastern Europe. instead it listed his location as Du Bai. Evidently he is some Muslim in the Middle East, (which his posts contents would make sense).... just another troll, but he is no European...so really who gives a F*^dk what he has to say... his opinions are just to try to elicit a response.... he's just another candidate to put on ignore...


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Originally Posted by Slavek
Originally Posted by renegade50
Originally Posted by JakeBlues
That’s because people typically have to love America to serve in a combat service.

Ditto.....


A myth largely perpetuated to fill in rank and file.

You know zilch............

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I still believe that if those in attendance wanted to “attack” the capitol building they could have. They greatly outnumbered all LE in the building. Instead they sat at desks, took selfies with officers, broke some windows, walked around with podiums etc. Trust me, if it was an actual attack it would have been truly shocking for everyone!

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Originally Posted by OldHat
Originally Posted by JakeBlues
That’s because people typically have to love America to serve in a combat service.

That is not true. History shows us people follow authority regardless.

History show us the dynamic seems to be ...
1) People are brought into service using shallow methods, like monetary incentives, phony macho propaganda, or conscription.
2) Then tough rule of law and threat of penalty maintains compliance.
3) Once in combat moral is built through the band of brother phenomenon. Battles are won through unit cohesion and moral which may have nothing to do with "love of country". The band of brother phenomenon dominates at the unit level in really rough combat.

#1 bonus program is a factor , ads are a factor for adventure in certain MOS,s . No longer a draft since 73??? not a factor.

#2 is really not a carte blanche thing, more of a solidiers do what leaders do and standards overlooked become the standard.
It boils down to leadership good or bad from Sqd to Bn level
That is the direct contact sphere of influence on soldiers performance.

# 3 you hit the nail on the head with it.

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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by Slavek
Extra military/police presence is needed because scenes from January 6th did tremendous damage to the United States. One wonders how can someone lead the free world if they can not get their own house together. Those scenes involving halloween clad people can never be repeated.


Take a moment to detail the damage if you will. Thanks.


Slavek, if you detailed the damage, I missed it.

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Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by Slavek
Extra military/police presence is needed because scenes from January 6th did tremendous damage to the United States. One wonders how can someone lead the free world if they can not get their own house together. Those scenes involving halloween clad people can never be repeated.

That logic only works when you don't allow nightly assaults on a federal building elsewhere. Assaults that were nightly, occurred over several months, and were much, much more violent and destructive



It only bothers the commies because they learned that a sword cuts both ways.

Like babies, they are throwing a temper tantrum because they can't have everything 100% their way 100% of the time.

They keep hollering "Insurrection!". They don't even have the slightest clue what a genuine insurrection is.


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Originally Posted by Seafire
Originally Posted by renegade50
" Slavek" is just another 24hr garden variety Liberal Socialist Democrat sockpuppet.
Not the Eurotrashland resident persona he crafted for this sockpuppet.....

Probably Masar or JeffO.....

Nothing more, nothing less....

They make money for Bin through controversy.
Only reason why they are allowed to exist here and the 0 qc registration process for the site.....

Word........


I was surfing thru some of the campfire pages for something and must have hit a wrong button, as I ended up with a page, I've never run across before..
but it was a background on Slavek here...with that handle, you'd think or lead to believe he would be from somewhere out of Eastern Europe. instead it listed his location as Du Bai. Evidently he is some Muslim in the Middle East, (which his posts contents would make sense).... just another troll, but he is no European...so really who gives a F*^dk what he has to say... his opinions are just to try to elicit a response.... he's just another candidate to put on ignore...

Basic coward sockpuppet POS is what he is.
Getting his little tee hees and haw haws in his little mind living vicariously in the land of 1,s and 0,s like all the rest of em on here.
1st in things that dont count mean alot to these types.
They think what they say is important and impactful.
The internet is their only world and basically their entire life.
B types who will never amount to anything or accomplish anything in the real world.
And they know it......
This is their only equal ground in their mind.
A safe cocoon where they can be anything , anytime, anywhere.
The internet.....

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Originally Posted by renegade50
Originally Posted by Seafire
Originally Posted by renegade50
" Slavek" is just another 24hr garden variety Liberal Socialist Democrat sockpuppet.
Not the Eurotrashland resident persona he crafted for this sockpuppet.....

Probably Masar or JeffO.....

Nothing more, nothing less....

They make money for Bin through controversy.
Only reason why they are allowed to exist here and the 0 qc registration process for the site.....

Word........


I was surfing thru some of the campfire pages for something and must have hit a wrong button, as I ended up with a page, I've never run across before..
but it was a background on Slavek here...with that handle, you'd think or lead to believe he would be from somewhere out of Eastern Europe. instead it listed his location as Du Bai. Evidently he is some Muslim in the Middle East, (which his posts contents would make sense).... just another troll, but he is no European...so really who gives a F*^dk what he has to say... his opinions are just to try to elicit a response.... he's just another candidate to put on ignore...

Basic coward sockpuppet POS is what he is.
Getting his little tee hees and haw haws in his little mind living vicariously in the land of 1,s and 0,s like all the rest of em on here.
1st in things that dont count mean alot to these types.
They think what they say is important and impactful.
The internet is their only world and basically their entire life.
B types who will never amount to anything or accomplish anything in the real world.
And they know it......
This is their only equal ground in their mind.
A safe cocoon where they can be anything , anytime, anywhere.
The internet.....



Isn’t there a shooting forum or such out there on the web that is owned and operated by some guy from du bai? supposedly a real prick... don’t know, I could be way off base...

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Originally Posted by OldHat
Originally Posted by JakeBlues
That’s because people typically have to love America to serve in a combat service.

That is not true. History shows us people follow authority regardless.

History show us the dynamic seems to be ...
1) People are brought into service using shallow methods, like monetary incentives, phony macho propaganda, or conscription.
2) Then tough rule of law and threat of penalty maintains compliance.
3) Once in combat moral is built through the band of brother phenomenon. Battles are won through unit cohesion and moral which may have nothing to do with "love of country". The band of brother phenomenon dominates at the unit level in really rough combat.

Most of my friends from active duty are patriots.


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Originally Posted by renegade50
Remember when the dumb fuggs were horrified the troops they called up were like 85 % white young male.
And they was harping about white supremacists troops and even launched investigations and inquiries into why they was all mostly white...


Thats what happens when you call up the National Guard you stupid fuggs.
They are combat arms.

Not the Diversity Rainbow REMF U.S. Army Reserve combat service and support types.


Stupid fuggs dont even realize the force structure of the Army.
And I wonder how many of the stupid fuggs realized Combat Arms is a white boys game and minorities for the most part advoid life risking jobs in the military in this day and age.

That in and of itself should have been telling to them.

Aint a drafted force filling up combat arms with ash and trash anymore that dont wanna be in combat arms fields....


Stupid fuggs mighta even done reseearch into force structure and the demographics after that and realized in fear that where actual boots hit the ground with trigger fingers.
They are 85% white male.......

Dumb fuggs got a shock outta that I bet.




White bread world here. 98% white, Republican/Christian.
Not poor, but just above.

We send a lot of kids off to the military.
White/conservative/Christian obviously.

There are a few "types". In no order.
#1, gotta do something.
#2, free college
#3 academy's (free education, officer status)
#4 patriots


1 and 4 are the majority, and are exactly what they fear.
3, is a wild card.
4? Probably unelected politicians. Exactly what they want. And the minority of those who go. (Find it odd how many locals have been accepted to the academies lately though.)


Just my observations.
Not like your day to day experience.


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Renagade you are wrong about the force structure, Out west where I live the majority in the National Guard are from hispanic back ground.

It was also that way in my tour in Iraq. First we need to have a QRF on stand by of about 2,000 troops, with as many of them being MP,s as possible

as they have police training and equipment. They should be with in 4 blocks of the Capitol. The attack on or capitol was a full blown attack, 140 Offices

went to the hospital, the mob was talking about hanging the vice president. They were using hockey sticks, base ball bats, pointed spears,and chemical agents.

This was in no way a nice peaceful crowd as the last president said, just another of his lies. The 27,000 videos prove that. We need to find out why Trump

replaced the head of the pentagon a month before all tis happened. We need to prosecute all who were injuring people and tearing the place apart.

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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Originally Posted by renegade50
Remember when the dumb fuggs were horrified the troops they called up were like 85 % white young male.
And they was harping about white supremacists troops and even launched investigations and inquiries into why they was all mostly white...


Thats what happens when you call up the National Guard you stupid fuggs.
They are combat arms.

Not the Diversity Rainbow REMF U.S. Army Reserve combat service and support types.


Stupid fuggs dont even realize the force structure of the Army.
And I wonder how many of the stupid fuggs realized Combat Arms is a white boys game and minorities for the most part advoid life risking jobs in the military in this day and age.

That in and of itself should have been telling to them.

Aint a drafted force filling up combat arms with ash and trash anymore that dont wanna be in combat arms fields....


Stupid fuggs mighta even done reseearch into force structure and the demographics after that and realized in fear that where actual boots hit the ground with trigger fingers.
They are 85% white male.......

Dumb fuggs got a shock outta that I bet.




White bread world here. 98% white, Republican/Christian.
Not poor, but just above.

We send a lot of kids off to the military.
White/conservative/Christian obviously.

There are a few "types". In no order.
#1, gotta do something.
#2, free college
#3 academy's (free education, officer status)
#4 patriots


1 and 4 are the majority, and are exactly what they fear.
3, is a wild card.
4? Probably unelected politicians. Exactly what they want. And the minority of those who go. (Find it odd how many locals have been accepted to the academies lately though.)


Just my observations.
Not like your day to day experience.






Yes, it is cross-section of society. One example of Patriot (with large force of bravado, I suspect) would be brother of Secretary of Education under Donald Trump. I forget his name, but he runs large private army/security force that used to be located in North Karolina, USA.

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Originally Posted by Slavek
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Originally Posted by renegade50
Remember when the dumb fuggs were horrified the troops they called up were like 85 % white young male.
And they was harping about white supremacists troops and even launched investigations and inquiries into why they was all mostly white...


Thats what happens when you call up the National Guard you stupid fuggs.
They are combat arms.

Not the Diversity Rainbow REMF U.S. Army Reserve combat service and support types.


Stupid fuggs dont even realize the force structure of the Army.
And I wonder how many of the stupid fuggs realized Combat Arms is a white boys game and minorities for the most part advoid life risking jobs in the military in this day and age.

That in and of itself should have been telling to them.

Aint a drafted force filling up combat arms with ash and trash anymore that dont wanna be in combat arms fields....


Stupid fuggs mighta even done reseearch into force structure and the demographics after that and realized in fear that where actual boots hit the ground with trigger fingers.
They are 85% white male.......

Dumb fuggs got a shock outta that I bet.




White bread world here. 98% white, Republican/Christian.
Not poor, but just above.

We send a lot of kids off to the military.
White/conservative/Christian obviously.

There are a few "types". In no order.
#1, gotta do something.
#2, free college
#3 academy's (free education, officer status)
#4 patriots


1 and 4 are the majority, and are exactly what they fear.
3, is a wild card.
4? Probably unelected politicians. Exactly what they want. And the minority of those who go. (Find it odd how many locals have been accepted to the academies lately though.)


Just my observations.
Not like your day to day experience.






Yes, it is cross-section of society. One example of Patriot (with large force of bravado, I suspect) would be brother of Secretary of Education under Donald Trump. I forget his name, but he runs large private army/security force that used to be located in North Karolina, USA.



I normally don’t mind sock puppets, but your fake ass Andy Kauffman wanna be polack scheit is retarded.



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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck

#3 academy's (free education, officer status)

I went to the Naval Academy. When you walk through the door, you basically gave up every God given right you have. We had a saying that it was (at the time) a $200k education shoved up your azz a nickel at a time. It was far from free. It was paid for through blood sweat, tears, serving on 4 ships, doing 3 deployments etc. I get your point though.


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Originally Posted by jackmountain
Originally Posted by Slavek
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Originally Posted by renegade50
Remember when the dumb fuggs were horrified the troops they called up were like 85 % white young male.
And they was harping about white supremacists troops and even launched investigations and inquiries into why they was all mostly white...


Thats what happens when you call up the National Guard you stupid fuggs.
They are combat arms.

Not the Diversity Rainbow REMF U.S. Army Reserve combat service and support types.


Stupid fuggs dont even realize the force structure of the Army.
And I wonder how many of the stupid fuggs realized Combat Arms is a white boys game and minorities for the most part advoid life risking jobs in the military in this day and age.

That in and of itself should have been telling to them.

Aint a drafted force filling up combat arms with ash and trash anymore that dont wanna be in combat arms fields....


Stupid fuggs mighta even done reseearch into force structure and the demographics after that and realized in fear that where actual boots hit the ground with trigger fingers.
They are 85% white male.......

Dumb fuggs got a shock outta that I bet.




White bread world here. 98% white, Republican/Christian.
Not poor, but just above.

We send a lot of kids off to the military.
White/conservative/Christian obviously.

There are a few "types". In no order.
#1, gotta do something.
#2, free college
#3 academy's (free education, officer status)
#4 patriots


1 and 4 are the majority, and are exactly what they fear.
3, is a wild card.
4? Probably unelected politicians. Exactly what they want. And the minority of those who go. (Find it odd how many locals have been accepted to the academies lately though.)


Just my observations.
Not like your day to day experience.






Yes, it is cross-section of society. One example of Patriot (with large force of bravado, I suspect) would be brother of Secretary of Education under Donald Trump. I forget his name, but he runs large private army/security force that used to be located in North Karolina, USA.



I normally don’t mind sock puppets, but your fake ass Andy Kauffman wanna be polack scheit is retarded.


Recognizing someone for bravery, dedication and patriotism is not retarded.

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Most will be shocked if the truth about the protests ever becomes public knowledge (guarantee majority of agitators were either antifa and/or government agents or informants).


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