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Re: Vertical split vs horizontal split rings dale06 #16287971 07/27/21
Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 151,092 Texas hanco Campfire Savant
hanco Campfire Savant Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 151,092 Texas	I like Talley bases and split rings, but use Burris Signature Zee rings on 99’s. Either work well.

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Re: Vertical split vs horizontal split rings dale06 #16288046 07/27/21
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SCgman1 Campfire Tracker Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 4,354	Once I start swapping scopes on my TC Icons I begin to appreciate the horizontal splits more......transitioned from talleys to warne maxima for that reason. Talley verticals are good rings but I have to mess with stuff.

Re: Vertical split vs horizontal split rings dale06 #16288143 07/27/21
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 28,235 W. Texas J JGRaider Campfire Ranger
JGRaider Campfire Ranger J Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 28,235 W. Texas	I used multiples of horizontal and vertical split rings. Never had a problem out of any of them as long as I didn't use a cheater bar to tighten them up. It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.

Re: Vertical split vs horizontal split rings dale06 #16288364 07/27/21
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,983 NW Oregon B bowmanh Campfire Regular
bowmanh Campfire Regular B Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,983 NW Oregon	I use both and don't think there is much functional difference. I find the horizontals a bit easier to mount scopes on but the difference is not large.

Re: Vertical split vs horizontal split rings dale06 #16288626 07/27/21
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 8,148 S.E. Alaska MuskegMan Campfire Outfitter
MuskegMan Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 8,148 S.E. Alaska	Never found the allure of vertical rings. I've only tried one set of Warnes - I'm one-n-done with the "concept".

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Re: Vertical split vs horizontal split rings dale06 #16288639 07/27/21
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Hondo64d Campfire Tracker H Joined: May 2003 Posts: 5,792 The Big Country	Originally Posted by dale06 On moderate recoil rifles 243 and smaller, are there any big advantages or disadvantages between vertical and horizontal split scope rings? Thanks The only vertically split ring I would use are the ARC rings, and they are not a true vertically split ring, more of a hybrid. They are absolutely outstanding and I prefer them over all other rings I’ve tried. John https://www.americanrifle.com/shop/product/m10-scope-rings-7 If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

Re: Vertical split vs horizontal split rings JGRaider #16288668 07/27/21
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,071 Banana Belt, Montana M Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna
Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,071 Banana Belt, Montana	Originally Posted by JGRaider I used multiples of horizontal and vertical split rings. Never had a problem out of any of them as long as I didn't use a cheater bar to tighten them up. Same here. “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck

Re: Vertical split vs horizontal split rings Hondo64d #16288742 07/27/21
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 8,148 S.E. Alaska MuskegMan Campfire Outfitter
MuskegMan Campfire Outfitter Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 8,148 S.E. Alaska	Originally Posted by Hondo64d The only vertically split ring I would use are the ARC rings, and they are not a true vertically split ring, more of a hybrid. They are absolutely outstanding and I prefer them over all other rings I’ve tried. $179 !!!! YGTBFKM !!!

Re: Vertical split vs horizontal split rings dale06 #16289455 07/27/21
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dennisinaz Campfire Outfitter D Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 13,091 Kodiak & AZ	Vertical split rings suck plain a and simple NRA Benefactor Member Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.

Re: Vertical split vs horizontal split rings MuskegMan #16289462 07/27/21
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Hondo64d Campfire Tracker H Joined: May 2003 Posts: 5,792 The Big Country	Originally Posted by MuskegMan Originally Posted by Hondo64d The only vertically split ring I would use are the ARC rings, and they are not a true vertically split ring, more of a hybrid. They are absolutely outstanding and I prefer them over all other rings I’ve tried. $179 !!!! YGTBFKM !!! Yep. And they are a bargain at that. John If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

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Re: Vertical split vs horizontal split rings MuskegMan #16289726 07/28/21
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rj308 Campfire Regular R Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,738	Originally Posted by MuskegMan Originally Posted by Hondo64d The only vertically split ring I would use are the ARC rings, and they are not a true vertically split ring, more of a hybrid. They are absolutely outstanding and I prefer them over all other rings I’ve tried. $179 !!!! YGTBFKM !!! Hey! If you want to dance, you must pay the piper.

Re: Vertical split vs horizontal split rings Hondo64d #16290023 07/28/21
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,376 Denver, Colorado S shinbone Campfire Regular
shinbone Campfire Regular S Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,376 Denver, Colorado	Originally Posted by Hondo64d The only vertically split ring I would use are the ARC rings, and they are not a true vertically split ring, more of a hybrid. They are absolutely outstanding and I prefer them over all other rings I’ve tried. John https://www.americanrifle.com/shop/product/m10-scope-rings-7 What makes the ARC rings so good? To me, those two hinges just look like extra complication?

Re: Vertical split vs horizontal split rings huntsman22 #16290038 07/28/21
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Fotis Campfire Ranger Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,260 Cheyenne, Wy	Originally Posted by huntsman22 I have a bunch of Warne vertical's, and never a problem..... YUP...No twisting of scope during installation https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com μολὼν λαβέ "Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""

Re: Vertical split vs horizontal split rings dale06 #16290305 07/28/21
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Clarkm Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 10,361 WA rain forest	Vertical split ring (2) screws tighten on the tube and the Weaver base at the same time.... not a good design. On top the bad concept, they are usually made so the screws bind on the side of their clearance holes... more bad design. Me trying to use v split rings reminds me of Donald Duck changing a flat tire. https://video.disney.com/watch/donald-s-tire-trouble-4bb39f2cdff29a8833003b15 There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. -Ernest Hemingway The man who makes no mistakes does not usually make anything.-- Edward John Phelps

Re: Vertical split vs horizontal split rings Clarkm #16290405 07/28/21
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SCgman1 Campfire Tracker Joined: Feb 2013 Posts: 4,354	Me trying to use v split rings reminds me of Donald Duck changing a flat tire. https://video.disney.com/watch/donald-s-tire-trouble-4bb39f2cdff29a8833003b15[/quote] Whenever I'm doing finesse work like scoping a rifle I like to set the mood by playing similar cartoon soundtracks.....for 2 reasons, first it's pretty dam appropriate and second, playing it really loud masks my profanity laced outbursts.

Re: Vertical split vs horizontal split rings dale06 #16290513 07/28/21
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Biebs Campfire Tracker B Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 4,662	I like Talleys and Warne Maxima vertical split rings on my higher-end rifles. I'm not a turret spinner and don't change scopes, and I like the looks on a fine rifle. PS: I have 2 sets of gloss Conetrol 1" rings in my shop, if anyone is interested. Last edited by Biebs; 07/28/21.

Re: Vertical split vs horizontal split rings Fotis #16291323 07/28/21
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10Glocks Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2020 Posts: 4,544 The Old Dominion	Originally Posted by Fotis Originally Posted by huntsman22 I have a bunch of Warne vertical's, and never a problem..... YUP...No twisting of scope during installation Agreed. That's the biggest pain about using horizontal. I've had a bunch of God damnit moments. Square your reticle, start tightening, and look again and the reticle is canted. https://vcdl.org/

Re: Vertical split vs horizontal split rings Clarkm #16291337 07/28/21
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10Glocks Campfire Tracker Joined: Nov 2020 Posts: 4,544 The Old Dominion	Originally Posted by Clarkm Vertical split ring (2) screws tighten on the tube and the Weaver base at the same time.... not a good design. Agreed. I don't like that design either. I like Warnes and Talley QDs that mount around the tube first, then mount to the rail. Warne top, Talley bottom. Both QD, but the Talley is using the screw lock option instead of the lever. --- As far verticals obstructing the turret, I don't see it. They aren't that tall. They aren't really any taller than the ocular bell or power ring. I also prefer Warnes to Talleys if my rifle has open sights I might want to use. Their bases are lower. Last edited by 10Glocks; 07/28/21. https://vcdl.org/

Re: Vertical split vs horizontal split rings shinbone #16293323 07/29/21
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Hondo64d Campfire Tracker H Joined: May 2003 Posts: 5,792 The Big Country	Originally Posted by shinbone Originally Posted by Hondo64d The only vertically split ring I would use are the ARC rings, and they are not a true vertically split ring, more of a hybrid. They are absolutely outstanding and I prefer them over all other rings I’ve tried. John https://www.americanrifle.com/shop/product/m10-scope-rings-7 What makes the ARC rings so good? To me, those two hinges just look like extra complication? They align well, making for no stress on the scope tube. They have plenty of surface area for a secure hold. The reticle does not change angle as you tighten the top bolt. This is huge to me. Saves me from much frustration. They are precise and repeatable. I have removed and reinstalled my scope on its base with virtually no change in POI. They don’t appear to have any of the negatives of the vertically split rings that are split all the way through, which makes them the only vertically split ring I will use for now. All that said, there are much less expensive rings that work very well, but the ARCs are my current favorite. John If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

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