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Re: Department of Justice Declares That All Vaccines Mandates are *Legal* [Re: erikj] #16289563 07/27/21
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Re: Department of Justice Declares That All Vaccines Mandates are *Legal* [Re: erikj] #16289749 07/28/21
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looked up states that allow religious or personal exemptions from bypassing state mandates for child vaccination in school

https://www.ncsl.org/research/health/school-immunization-exemption-state-laws.aspx


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Re: Department of Justice Declares That All Vaccines Mandates are *Legal* [Re: TXLoader] #16289751 07/28/21
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Originally Posted by TXLoader
Well, the DoJ and the CDC can make all the mandates they want to...Florida, South Dakota and Texas all told them to go to he11 and get bent, as the CDC mandates aren't backed by real science.



regarding school vaccines

States typically follow recommended childhood vaccine schedules from the CDC in setting their mandates, allowing some exemptions. In recent years, state lawmakers around the country have faced confrontational protesters when they’ve attempted to narrow or eliminate broad, philosophical vaccine exemptions that have led to large numbers of opt outs.


State-issued school vaccine mandates have been a key strategy that has helped build collective immunity, and agencies like the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have credited them with practically eradicating several illnesses, like measles and polio.

School attendance is one of the broadest, most effective conditions officials can tie to vaccines, they say, so such mandates serve to set norms for the broader population, in addition to protecting children from diseases that may spread in school buildings.

Cuomo weighs in FWIW...

“You cannot mandate any of these vaccines yet, because they are all emergency-use authorization,” New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, a Democrat, said Tuesday. “A state cannot mandate a vaccine that is authorized by emergency use. It has to receive a full federal approval first.”

The emergency-use authorization from the FDA requires broad, rigorous studies of the safety and effectiveness of vaccine candidates. In Pfizer’s case, data was pulled from 2,260 12- to 15-year-olds who participated in a clinical trial. The company expects to request emergency authorization for children as young as 2 in September. Pfizer has started the process to receive full approval for use of its vaccine in patients 16 and older, and it expects to follow later with younger age groups.

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Re: Department of Justice Declares That All Vaccines Mandates are *Legal* [Re: erikj] #16289752 07/28/21
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Finally, a STAT piece regarding employer mandates.......


Among those who believe that EUA vaccines cannot be mandated, the best two arguments are a legal argument and a policy one. The legal argument is that the law setting out the requirements for emergency use authorization contains language requiring the Secretary of Health and Human Services to ensure that people know they can refuse or accept the vaccine. The same language requires the informational materials accompanying EUA vaccines to tell people that “It is your choice to receive” the relevant vaccine.

The policy argument against mandates is that the standards for emergency use authorization are lower than the standards for full approval, that the vaccines are “experimental” and not enough is known about them, and it is therefore unfair to mandate them. Two lawsuits have already been filed making both the legal and policy arguments, one by a corrections officer in New Mexico, and one by employees of the Los Angeles United School District.

There are good reasons to reject both of these arguments, though. On the legal side, the EUA statute says nothing directed at employers or universities. Instead, it addresses the actions of federal officials, such as the HHS secretary and the president — not private actors. Private employees are generally “at will,” meaning they can be terminated for any reason that is not explicitly illegal. Those arguing that the EUA statute prohibits mandates by at-will employers are claiming that this federal law is changing existing state employment law on the topic by mere implication. They are reading in a broad prohibition covering all employers and universities in the U.S. that is not, in fact, in the statute. Such broad preemption would require, at a minimum, clearer language.


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Re: Department of Justice Declares That All Vaccines Mandates are *Legal* [Re: erikj] #16289754 07/28/21
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Time for the women to burn their masks along with their bras on college campuses. I'll bring the beer.


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Re: Department of Justice Declares That All Vaccines Mandates are *Legal* [Re: local_dirt] #16289795 07/28/21
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Originally Posted by local_dirt
F them. ALL of them.



The harder they push, the deeper I will dig in.

Given the track history of the federales doing more harm than good in recent years, when they push this hard, it sets off the warning bells PDQ. eek


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Re: Department of Justice Declares That All Vaccines Mandates are *Legal* [Re: antlers] #16289865 07/28/21
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Exactly. No surprise. I would have been shocked if they didn't. It's the Biden regime.


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Re: Department of Justice Declares That All Vaccines Mandates are *Legal* [Re: antelope_sniper] #16289872 07/28/21
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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
I didn't know Judges were part of the Executive Branch.

This is why it will need to wend its way through the court system. Bet it gets fast tracked to SCOTUS . The Executive branch has no such legal authority nor should it be recognized . I saw this one coming a while back. That scum Fauci says it's a new virus in effect because it has mutated. By that logic the virus will keep mutating and we'll be in masks forever. Enough is enough.

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Re: Department of Justice Declares That All Vaccines Mandates are *Legal* [Re: erikj] #16289875 07/28/21
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So once again we have an example of the federal government telling us what the federal government's powers are which is ludicrous. The central government is the creature of the States, not their master.


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Re: Department of Justice Declares That All Vaccines Mandates are *Legal* [Re: bluefish] #16289887 07/28/21
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Originally Posted by bluefish
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
I didn't know Judges were part of the Executive Branch.

This is why it will need to wend its way through the court system. Bet it gets fast tracked to SCOTUS . The Executive branch has no such legal authority nor should it be recognized . I saw this one coming a while back. That scum Fauci says it's a new virus in effect because it has mutated. By that logic the virus will keep mutating and we'll be in masks forever. Enough is enough.



The DOJ proclaiming it "Legal" is just them saying they are willing to take the issue through the court system.

By the time it goes through the court system, win, lose or draw, it will have already affected everyone...


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Re: Department of Justice Declares That All Vaccines Mandates are *Legal* [Re: erikj] #16289891 07/28/21
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This is all building up to exploit control and to make mail in ballots with 0 QC the unquestioned standard for the 2022 mid term elections.

That is the purpose of the " D" varient hype.
The announcement of the " L " variant in south America for their next round.

Chunk by chunk
Bit by bit
The Liberal Socialist Democrats and their media ministry of propaganda are conditioning sheeple for compliance and the mail in ballot game being the most safe way to vote health wise.


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Re: Department of Justice Declares That All Vaccines Mandates are *Legal* [Re: renegade50] #16289947 07/28/21
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Apparently the voluntary innoculation numbers aren't nearly what is they are claiming.

Was told that the VA recently gave employees notice that all will be expected to get covid vaccine shots within the next few weeks. Should be interesting to see if their union challenges it.

Re: Department of Justice Declares That All Vaccines Mandates are *Legal* [Re: erikj] #16289963 07/28/21
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They will get away with what we let them get away with.


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Re: Department of Justice Declares That All Vaccines Mandates are *Legal* [Re: erikj] #16289968 07/28/21
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Originally Posted by erikj
https://beckernews.com/department-of-justice-declares-that-all-vaccines-mandates-are-legal-40544/

The Department of Justice’s Office of Legal Counsel has given the U.S. federal government and state governments, as well as private corporations, the green light to mandate COVID vaccines at will.

“As access to the COVID-19 vaccines has become widespread, numerous educational institutions, employers, and other entities across the United States have announced that they will require individuals to be vaccinated against COVID-19 as a condition of employment, enrollment, participation, or some other benefit, service, relationship, or access,” the DOJ’s Office of Legal Counsel wrote in an opinion. “For instance, certain schools will require vaccination in order for students to attend class in person, and certain employers will require vaccination as a condition of employment.”

No bueno.
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Re: Department of Justice Declares That All Vaccines Mandates are *Legal* [Re: erikj] #16289976 07/28/21
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Re: Department of Justice Declares That All Vaccines Mandates are *Legal* [Re: KFWA] #16289980 07/28/21
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Originally Posted by KFWA
looked up states that allow religious or personal exemptions from bypassing state mandates for child vaccination in school

https://www.ncsl.org/research/health/school-immunization-exemption-state-laws.aspx

That's interesting. Thanks.


We are always just a few votes away from change. Covid has given us a nation of germaphobes so you may see this start to change.

Re: Department of Justice Declares That All Vaccines Mandates are *Legal* [Re: Old_Toot] #16289991 07/28/21
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Except the SCOTUS is bought and paid for or at least black mailed.....Nobody is looking out for us lowlife Subjects.


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Originally Posted by cvmw
Except the SCOTUS is bought and paid for or at least black mailed.....Nobody is looking out for us lowlife Subjects.



Someone has forgotten exactly who the boss is.


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Except the SCOTUS is bought and paid for or at least black mailed.....Nobody is looking out for us lowlife Subjects.



Someone has forgotten exactly who the boss is.

Haven't forgotten, When do we roll?


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Re: Department of Justice Declares That All Vaccines Mandates are *Legal* [Re: erikj] #16290011 07/28/21
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Brought to you by the guy O’bama wanted on SCOTUS. Another lackey following directions.


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